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mumukShuH- kyA unakI marmaj~na dR^iShTi hai! mUlako pakaDe, Dige nahI.n, lAkh koshiSh karo, hi.nmatabhAIkI us bAtame.n.. sabhI shAstrakA gujarAtIkaraN, harigIt ghar-gharame.n gAte ho, paDhate ho.. kundakundAchAryakA upakAr to mAnate hI hai.n, usame.n sha.nkA nahI.n hai. amR^itachandrAchAryakA (upakAr mAnate hai.n), lekin gujarAtIme.n to hi.nmatabhAIne hI sab kiyA hai. adabhut!

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane spaShTa kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- vah to spaShTa kiyA hai, gurudevane to spaShTa kiyA hI hai, lekin ye to usase bhI visheSh ApakI vANIko bhI visheSh spaShTa kI hai, parantu inho.nne jo kiyA hai vah alag hI hai. bhale hI unhoe.nne gurudevakI vANIko hI usame.n utArI hai, lekin vANIko utAranA vah AsAn kAm nahI.n hai, AsAn kAm nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- Apako paNDitajIkA pakShapAt hai. mumukShuH- dev-guru-shAstrakA pakShapAt hai aur satyakA bhI pakShapAt hai, aisA yadi kahanA ho to mai.n sa.npUrNarUpase svIkAr karatA hU.N. galat prasha.nsA karaneme.n kabhI kisIkA mAnA nahI.n hai, parantu vah adabhut hai.

samAdhAnaH- vichAr karate the. unako pahalese hI vichAr (chalate the). sabako samajhAnekA (bhAv) pahalese hI hai. ChoTe the tabase hai.

mumukShuH- samajhan to hai hI, parantu usase bhI visheSh mIThAs hai. koI yadi nahI.n samajhe to kuCh nahI.n, unhee.n kuCh nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevake pratApase yah sab yahA.N hai. gurudevakA pratApa. jo mahApuruSh hote hai.n unake pIChe sab hotA hai. ve mahApuruSh hI aise hue isaliye sab khI.Nchakar yahA.N Aye. jo bhI yahA.N Ate hai.n, sab aisI pAtratAvAle (Ate hai.n), gurudevakA tIrtha.nkar dravya thA isaliye unake pIChe aisI shaktivAle sab Ate hai.n. vah sab gurudevake charaName.n hI (arpit) hai, hamane kuCh nahI.n kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA kahA jAtA hai, gaNadhar gU.nthe... divyadhvani khiratI hI rahatI hai. mumukShuH- pUjya gurudevashrIke pravachanakA pustak hai, isame.n likhA hai ki sAdhakakA j~nAn ho, j~nAnakA svabhAv hI aisA hai ki usame.n rAg samAtA nahI.n. vah to rAgase

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bhinna sadA j~nAyak hI hai. isame.n kahA ki kevalaj~nAn aur sAdhakakA j~nAn dono.nko ek kahA. kevalaj~nAn ho yA sAdhakakA j~nAn ho, to kis apekShAse us j~nAnako ek kahA hai?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn to samyak kI apekShAse kahA hai. parantu kevalaj~nAnI to lokAlokako jAnanevAle hai.n. unhe.n to pUrNa j~nAn pragaT ho gayA hai. inhe.n pUrNa j~nAn nahI.n pragaT huA hai. kevalaj~nAnIko to vItarAgadashA ho gayI hai. unhe.n rAgakA to kShay ho gayA hai. dravyadR^iShTipUrvak unhe.n to chAritradashA hokar kevalaj~nAn pragaT huA hai. sva-parako jAnanevAlA aisA j~nAn pragaT huA hai. svaya.nko svaya.nke svabhAvame.n rahakar sahaj svabhAvase sab jAnate hai.n. lekin kevalaj~nAnIkA j~nAn aur samyagdR^iShTikA j~nAn, samyakatAkI apekShAse (ek) kahA hai. yah jo samyak hai vah j~nAyakakI apekShAse. kevalaj~nAnIkA j~nAn j~nAyakako jAnanevAlA hai aur samyagdR^iShTikA j~nAn bhI j~nAyakako jAnatA hai. us apekShAse hai. bAkI sarva apekShAse nahI.n hai.

kevalaj~nAnIkA j~nAn to pratyakSha hai, samyagdR^iShTikA j~nAn pratyakSha nahI.n hai. vah to svarUpapratyakSha hai. sarva pratyakSha nahI.n hai, samyagdR^iShTikA j~nAn sarvapratyakSha nahI.n hai. ek j~nAyakako jAnanevAlA hai. j~nAyakakI apekShAse ek kahA hai. samyakakI apekShAse ek kahA hai. sarva pratyakShakI apekShAse ek nahI.n hai. apekShA alag hai. dono.n apekShA samajhanI.

inakA dravya aur unakA dravya samAn hai. samyagdR^iShTiko jo j~nAn pragaT huA, vah j~nAyakako jAnanevAlA j~nAn hai aur samyak hai, us apekShaAse kahA hai. aise to siddha bhagavAnakA anubhav aur samyagdR^iShTikA anubhav ek jAtikA hai, siddhakI jAtikA (hai). vah to ek jAtikI apekShAse (kahA). ye to a.nsh hai. kevalaj~nAnIko to sarvA.nshase pragaT huA hai. a.nsh apekShAse (hai). yah j~nAn bhI j~nAyakatAko jAnatA hai aur samyak hai, isaliye. bAkI sarva apekShAse nahI.n hai. kevalaj~nAnIkA j~nAn to pratyakSha hai aur yah parokSha hai. usakA anubhav-svAnubhUtikI apekShAse, samyakakI apekShAse, j~nAyakakI apekShAse kahA hai.

mumukShuH- samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritrarUp vItarAgI dashA pragaT hotI hai, use bhI kShaNik shuddha upAdAn kahaneme.n AtA hai. yahA.N trikAlI dravyako shuddha upAdAn lenA hai. kShaNik shuddha upAdAn jo liyA vah samyagdarshanakI paryAy lI.

samAdhAnaH- usame.n tIno.n liyA na. samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritra tIno.n liye hai.n na usame.n to. kShaNik yAnI vah to paryAy apekShAse liyA hai.

mumukShuH- kShaNik shuddha upAdAnase katha.nchit sahit hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- katha.nchit..?

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mumukShuH- sahit hU.N, aisA Aye. kShaNik ashuddha upAdAnase katha.nchit sahit hU.N, aisA lenese kyA doSh AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- kyA hai usame.n? katha.nchit shuddha hU.N? dravyadR^iShTise kyA liyA hai?

mumukShuH- yahA.N trikAlI dravyako shuddha upAdAn liyA hai. ab, jo trikAlI shuddha upAdAn hai vah kShaNik shuddha upAdAnase katha.nchit sahit hai. dravya, paryAy sahit hai, aisA AyA.

samAdhAnaH- katha.nchit ashuddha hai aisA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. usame.n doSh nahI.n hai. katha.nchit koI apekShAse ashuddha paryAyavAlA jIvako kahaneme.n AtA hai aur shuddha paryAyavAlA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. shuddha paryAy jo darshan, j~nAn, chAritrakI ratnatray paryAy pragaT hotI hai vah paryAy hai, isaliye use katha.nchit dravyase abhinna kahaneme.n AtI hai. lekin vah paryAy hai isaliye. paryAy, dravyakA hI svarUp hai. lekin dravya aur paryAyakA bhinna svarUp batAte hai.n, isaliye use kathi.nchat kahA hai. katha.nchit ashuddha bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. usame.n doSh nahI.n AtA. vah apekShA hai.

anAdikAlase jIv rAg-dveSh karatA hai, use katha.nchit kahaneme.n AtA hai-kathi.nchat dravya abhinna kahaneme.n AtA hai. abhinna shabda hai na?

mumukShuH- kShaNik upAdAna.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kShaNik upAdAn kahaneme.n AtA hai. katha.nchit ashuddha upAdAn kahaneme.n AtA hai, use ashuddha upAdAn kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- phir usame.n Age AtA hai ki shuddha upAdAn to trikAl hai, lekin usake lakShyase jo vartamAn dashA pragaT hotI hai, vah bhI kartA-bhoktApanese shUnya hai. jo trikAlako pakaDe aisI jo AnandakI dashA, us rUp pariNat jIv, vah bhI shubhA- shubharAgakA, parapadArthake kartR^itva-bhoktR^itvase shUnya hai. to paryAyakA kartA to paryAy hai, aisA AtA hai. paryAyame.n kriyA hotI hai. yahA.N to paryAyakA bhI akartR^itva-abhoktR^itva kisaprakAr kahA hai?

samAdhAnaH- paryAyakA akartR^itva-abhoktR^itva dravyakI apekShAse akartA-abhoktA hai. paryAy paryAyame.n to kartA-bhoktA hai, paryAy apekShAse. dravya, paryAyakA akartA-abhoktA dravyadR^iShTi apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. lekin dravya aur paryAyako katha.nchit abhedarUp kaho to use kartA-bhoktA kahaneme.n AtA hai. us apekShAse hai. dravyadR^iShTikI apekShAse akartA- abhoktA kahA hai. paryAyadR^iShTise use kartA-bhoktA kahaneme.n AtA hai aur dravyadR^iShTise use akartA-abhoktA kahaneme.n AtA hai. paryAyadR^iShTise use kahaneme.n AtA hai. dravyadR^iShTikI apekShAse bAt hai.

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mumukShuH- dravyadR^iShTikI apekShAse paryAyame.n bhI akartR^itva kahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- paryAyakA jIv akartA dravyadR^iShTise kahA jAtA hai. paryAyakA akartR^itva nahI.n arthAt paryAy hai hI nahI.n, aisA nahI.n. paryAyakA jIv akartA aur abhoktA (hai), vah dravyadR^iShTise paryAyakA akartA (hai). paryAyakA kartR^itva hai, paryAy to hai, paryAy nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n. dravyadR^iShTise nahI.n hai aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. dravyakI apekShAse. paryAyakI apekShAse to kartR^itva-bhoktR^itva hai. dravyadR^iShTise akartA-abhoktA. dravya aur paryAyako abhed karo to paryAyakA kartA-bhoktA dravya hai. paryAy nirAdhAr laTakatI hai aur dravya nirAdhAr laTakatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. paryAy dravyake AdhAr binA nirAdhAr hotI hai aur dravya kahI.n dUsarI jagah rah jAtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai.

Am hai, to AmakA ras alag rah jAtA hai, rasakI paryAy aur AmakA ra.ng dUr rahatA hai, aur Am bhinna rahatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. AmakA ras, rUp sab milAkar Am hai. lekin usake lakShaN bhinna-bhinna karo ki ras aisA hai-khaTTA-mIThA ras, harA- pIlA Am, isaprakAr usake ra.ngako lakShaNabhedase bhinna karo to use bhinna kah sakate haiai.n aur AmakA pUrA piNDa lo, isaprakAr bhinna hai. Am, rasakA kartA nahI.n hai, rasakA kartA ras hai, Am bhinna hai. aisA apekShAse kah sakate hai.n. use abhed karake kaho to Am hI rasarUp hai, Am hI ga.ndharUp hai, Am hI ra.ngarUp hai, Am hI hai.

isaprakAr dravya-paryAyako abhed karake kaho to dravya hI svaya.n ashuddha paryAyarUp pariNamatA hai, dravya svaya.n ashuddha paryAyakA kartA hai, dravyadR^iShTise usakA kartA nahI.n hai. use abhed karake kaho to use aisA bhI kah sakate hai.n aur dravyadR^iShTise kaho to usakA vah kartA (nahI.n hai).

dravyadR^iShTise Amako aisA kaho ki rasako ras kare, ra.ngako ra.ng karatA hai. lekin vah sab bhinna-bhinna jagah laTakate hai.n aisA nahI.n hai. vah to apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. ras bhI Amame.n hai, ra.ng bhI Amame.n hai, gandha bhI Amame.n hai.

isaprakAr j~nAnaguNakI paryAy bhI dravyame.n hai, AnandakI paryAy bhI dravyame.n hai, sab dravyame.n hai. usase bhinna laTakate ho to dravyakA anubhav kaise ho? AnandakA anubhav kise ho? j~nAnako jAnanekA anubhav kise ho? dravya aur paryAy us apekShAse ek hai. use kShaNik aur trikAlakI apekShAse bhinna kahaneme.n AtA hai. paryAy palaTatI rahatI hai aur dravya shAshvat hai, us apekShAse. bAkI us dravyakI hI vah paryAy hai aur us dravyakA hI vah guN hai. lekin dravya apekShAse use bhinna karake kahaneme.n AtA hai. paryAy aur dravyako abhed karake kaho to dravya us rUp pariNamatA hai. aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai.

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mUl dravyadR^iShTikI apekShAse bhinna karaneme.n AtA hai. usakA artha aisA nahI.n hai ki vah paryAy kahI.n aur hai aur dravya bhinna ho gayA. to anubhav kise hogA? siddhakA anubhav kise hogA? sab guN bhinna-bhinna ho gaye, paryAy bhinna ho gayI, phir dravya kahA.N rah gayA? to dravya shUnya ho gayA. apekShA samajhanI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- bahut sundara.

samAdhAnaH- sab bhinna-bhinna karo to phir dravya kahA.N rahatA hai? to anubhav kise hogA? AnandakA anubhava. rAg-dveShakA anubhav hotA hai. us rAgako jaD hI kahoge to rAg aur dveShakI kaluShitatA hotI hai vah mujhe nahI.n hotI hai. nahI.n hotI hai, dravya apekShAse. lekin usase bhinna paDanA, Ananda pragaT karanA, vah vedan kise hogA? yadi sab bhinna-bhinna laTakatA ho to.

mUl vastukA svabhAv samajhanA hai. pAnIkI shItalatA samajhanI hai. lekin pAnI malin huA hI nahI.n hai to shuddha karanA rahegA hI nahI.n. pAnI malin huA hai, vah paryAy apekShAse. parantu mUl shItalatA ho to shItalatA AtI hai. pAnI garma hotA hai, lekin vAstavik garma nahI.n huA hai, usakI shItalatA chalI nahI.n gayI, punaH shItal ho jAtA hai. mUl svabhAvako pahachAnanA. paryAyakI malinatA koI bhI apekShAse nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n hotA. koI apekShAse bhinna hai aur koI apekShAse abhinna hai. dono.n apekShA (samajhanI chAhiye).

jisakA jitanA vajan ho, paryAyakI apekShA paryAy jitanI, dravyakI apekShA dravya jitanI. dravya mUl svabhAv hai, paryAy pratikShaN badalatI hai. parantu dravyakI hI paryAy hotI hai, nirAdhAr nahI.n laTakatI.

mumukShuH- pUjya gurudevakI kR^ipAse aur Apake AshIrvAdase tattva thoDA samajhame.n AtA hai, bAr-bAr gholaname.n AtA hai, ... kahA.N aTakanA hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- andar svaya.nke puruShArthakI kShati hai. andar jij~nAsA, andar utanI gaharAIse AtmAkI or jhukanA, AtmAkA lakShaN pahachAnaneke liye. AtmA kyA hai, usakA svabhAv kyA hai, use pahachAnaneke liye utanA prayatna jo andar chAhiye, utanA prayatna chalatA nahI.n. prayatnakI kShati hai. svaya.nkI utanI jij~nAsA, andar ruchi honepar bhI abhI jo visheSh dR^iDhatA andar honI chAhiye, ruchikI adhik dR^iDhatA, prayatna sabame.n kShati rahatI hai, isIliye Age nahI.n baDh sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpame.n barAbar bhAsit hotA hai. ghaNTo.n tak baiThaneke bAd bhI kahA.N aTakanA hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- prayatnakI kShati hai. anAdikI ekatvabuddhi hai, us ekatvabuddhikA anAdise

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aisA abhyAs ho rahA hai ki yah sharIr, ye vikalpa sabake sAth ekatvabuddhi (ho rahI hai). sthUlabuddhise sharIrase bhinnatA kare ki ye sharIr jaD hai, kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. lekin vikalpake sAth jo ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, usame.n j~nAyak bhinna hai, us j~nAyakako grahaN karane hetu sUkShma hokar svaya.n j~nAyakako bhinna kare to bhinnatA hotI hai.

utanA sUkShma nahI.n hotA, utanA prayatna karatA nahI.n, use utanI andarame.n lagI nahI.n, utanI laganI lage to hotA hai. usake binA kahI.n chain nahI.n paDe, suhAye nahI.n, andarase utanI laganI chAhiye. bhale bahut bAr abhyAs kare, ghaNTo.n tak baiThe, lekin andar gaharAIse use joprayatna chalanA chAhiye, vah prayatna chalatA nahI.n. bAr-bAr vahI.n khaDA ho jAtA hai. ekatvabuddhi honese mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N, aisI bhAvanA kare, lakShaNako pahachAne ki ye jAnanevAlA mai.n hU.N, isaprakAr vikalpase nakkI kare, lekin us rUp pariNati ho jAnI chAhiye, us rUp jIvan ho jAnA chAhiye, andarakI pariNati aisI ho jAnI chAhiye ki mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N, pratikShaN mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. baiThakar abhyAs kare yAnI pratikShaN mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N.

jaise vikalpakI jAl lagAtAr chalatI hai, vaise use pratikShaN aisA sahaj ho jAnA chAhiye ki mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N, isaprakArakA prayatna andar chalatA nahI.n. jIvan us rUp ho jAnA chAhiye arthAt aisA sahaj ho jAnA chAhiye ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. usakI utanI mahimA Aye, utanA prayatna chale, us rUp jIvan ho jAye ki mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N. sahajarUpase. vikalparUp chale vah alag hai, lekin mai.n j~nAyakarUp hI hU.N, yah sharIr mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyakakI or hI dR^iShTi rahe aur j~nAyak hI use bhAsyamAn ho, bAkI sab mujhase bhinna hai. (rAg) paryAyame.n hai, lekin vah mere svabhAvase bhinna hai. isaprakAr jIvaname.n aisI pariNati utanI dR^iDh ho jAnI chAhiye, jaise ekatvabuddhikI pariNati (chalatI hai), usase bhI... yah to svaya.n hI hai, use sahaj ho jAnA chAhiye, andar tadagat pariNAm (hone chAhiyi ki) j~nAyak hI hU.N. aisA nahI.n hotA, aisA prayatna nahI.n chalatA hai.

jAgate-sote, svapname.n, khAte-pIte, chalate-phirate har vakta mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. aisI andar pariNati dR^iDh honI chAhiye. aur aisA abhyAs karate-karate jab use sahaj ho jAye, tab use yathArtha bhedaj~nAn hokar andar vikalpa ChUTakar nirvikalpa dashAme.n Age baDhe. tabatak jA nahI.n sakatA. usake jIvaname.n aisI ek pariNati dR^iDh ho jAye. utanA pratItikA bal (Aye), utanI pariNati dR^iDh honI chAhiye, to hotA hai. aisA hue binA (nahI.n hotA).

kitano.nko ho to aisA a.ntarmuhUrtame.n aisA ho jAtA hai aur nahI.n ho to lambe samay

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parya.nt abhyAs kare to bhI nahI.n hotA, to usake prayatnakI kShati hai. usakA abhyAs karatA rahe, usame.n thakAn nahI.n lage, usake pIChe lage, lambe samayase karate hai.n phir bhI kyo.n nahI.n hotA hai? nahI.n hotA hai, usakA kAraN svaya.nke prayatnake kShati hai.

j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, usakI mahimA, usakI ruchi, j~nAyakakA lakShaN bAra.nbAr pahachAnakar lakShaN parase lakShya (pahachAne). guN aur guNI dono.n abhed hai, j~nAyakakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs karatA rahe. j~nAyakadev mahimAva.nt hai, j~nAyakadevakI mahimA use ChUTe nahI.n. bAra.nbAr jIvaname.n aisI pariNati dR^iDh hove, jIvan us rUp ho jAye to pratikShaN use j~nAyak hI lage, aisA abhyAs dR^iDh ho to andarase pragaT hotA hai. prayatnakI kShati hai.

gurudev kahate the na? "nij nayananI ALase nirakhyA nahi hari'. svaya.nke pramAdake kAraN Alasake kAraNa. prayatna kare to bhI use pramAd rah jAtA hai, to bhI kShati rah jAtI hai. pratikShaN jo vikalpa sahaj A jAte hai.n to usI kShaN mai.n bhinna hU.N, usaprakArakI pariNatikA abhyAs honA chAhiye, to hotA hai. aur to use vah dR^iDhatA hote-hote vikalpa ChUTakar svAnubhUti honekA prasa.ng bane. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs, dR^iDhatA honI chAhiye. usame.n thakanA nahI.n, bAra.nbAr abhyAs karatA rahe to svaya.n hI j~nAyak hai, vah pragaT hue binA rahe nahI.n. usakA abhyAs karatA rahe, jabatak nahI.n ho tabataka.

mumukShuH- kaI bAr AbhAsame.n aisA lagatA hai ki vastume.n pakaDame A jAyegI. punaH chalI jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- usake samIp jAye, bAr-bAr kare. use aisA lage ki ab pakaDame.n A jAyegA, utanA jor Aye, lekin vah TikatA nahI.n, isaliye (ChUT jAtA hai aisA lage). puruShArthakI gatime.n pheraphAr hotA rahatA hai. kabhI tIvra puruShArtha chale, kabhI manda paD jAye, kabhI madhyam ho jAye. puruShArthakI gatime.n pheraphAr honese aisA lage ki pakaDame.n A jAyegA, phir manda paDe, phir madhyam paDe. lekin isIprakAr usakA prayatna karate rahanese vah pakaDame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. svaya.n hI, dUsarA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- use ChoDanA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use ChoDanA hI nahI.n. kyo.n nahI.n hotA? aisI ulajhaname.n nahI.n AnA, dhairya rakhanA. dhairya rakhanese pakaDamee.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. usakI mahimA ChUTe nahI.n, usame.n shuShkatA Aye nahI.n. usakI mahimA aur usame.n hI Ananda, usame.n hI sukh, sab sarvasva usame.n hai. anAdikAlake jo janma-maraN hai aur ye vibhAvakA jo duHkh hai, us vibhAvake duHkhase ChUTane hetu j~nAyak sarvasva hai, us j~nAyakame.n hI sab Ananda aur sukh hai. bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai. aisI pratIti, j~nAyakadevakI mahimA, abhyAs karaneme.n thakanA nahI.n, shuShkatA Aye nahI.n, usakI mahimA ChUTe nahI.n to Age baDhe binA rahe

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nahI.n.

bAharase bhagavAnake mandirame.n jAye to bhagavAnake dvAr par jaise Tahel lagAtA hai, aise j~nAyakake dvAr par Tahel mArate hI rahanA, thakanA nahI.n. chAhe jitanA samay lage lekin use ChoDanA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- kAlake sAmane nahI.n dekhanA. samAdhAnaH- kAlake sAmane nahI.n dekhanA. usakA abhyAs karanese use pragaT hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. svaya.n hI hai, usame.n hI sab bharA hai. usakI pratItikA jor rakhakar prayatna karate hI rahanA, thakanA nahI.n.