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mumukShu- dev-guru-shAstrake viShayamen jo nirNay hotA hai aur anubhUtike bAd dev- guru-shAstrakA nirNay, usamen to pharka nahIn paDatA.

samAdhAna- .. nirNay hotA hai, parantu anubhUtike bAd jo usakI lAIn hai vah alag hai.

mumukShu- dev-guru-shAstrake viShayamen bhI..

samAdhAna- sab alag hai. bhinna paD jAye aur bAdamen usakI jo pratIt hotI hai, dev-guru-shAstra par jo bhAv Aye, vah bhinna rahakar kaise AtI hai, vah to shraddhA joradAr hotI hai. vah sab bhinna pariNatimen AtA hai, vah alag kahanemen AtA hai. pahale AtA to hai.

jo dravyalingI muni hotA hai, use dev-guru-shAstrakI aisI shraddhA hotI hai ki chalAyamAn karane Aye to bhI chalit nahIn ho. Uparase indra Aye, chAhe jitane upasarga, pariShah Aye, aisI usakI shraddhA hotI hai. yadyapi use Age jAnemen to usamen usane mAn liyA hai, parantu aisI shraddhA hotI hai. dev-guru-shAstramen aisA aDig hotA hai. aur ye jignAsu hai vah bhI aDig hotA hai.

bhedagnAnapUrvakakI dhArAse jo AtA hai, usakI lAIn alag hai. use jo shubhabhAv AtA hai, usakI ras-sthiti hotI hai vah alag hotI hai. usakI sthiti kam hotI hai aur ras adhik hotA hai. bhedagnAnapUrvak aisA hotA hai. (jignAsuko) bhedagnAn huA nahIn hai, bhale hI bhAvanA hai. lekin usamen abhI ye sab pheraphAr nahIn hote hain. usakI pariNati nyArI ho gayI hai to ras, sthiti sabamen pheraphAr ho jAtA hai. aur shubhabhAv aise uchcha hote hain to bhI sthiti lambI nahIn paDatI. ras adhik hotA hai.

antarase sarvasvatA nahIn hotI, parantu bhakti Adi sab bahut AtI hai, aisA dikhAyI de. pratham bhUmikAmen use bhakti Aye. dev-guru-shAstrake liye upasarga, pariShah sahan karaneke liye taiyAr ho, aisA hotA hai. use aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAna- itane shAstra kanThastha kiye, tattvArtha sUtra yA (anya), vah gnAn ho gayA, aisA sab mAnate the. andar AtmAmen sab bharA hai, AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy aur

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AtmAmen koI apUrva Ananda aur anupan svAnubhUti andar hotI hai, vah kisane batAyA? vah gurudevane hI batAyA hai. samayasArake rahasya kisane khole hain? gurudevane hI khole hain.

mumukShu- log bhaDake to shurUAtamen gurudev ek-do din nahIn le.

samAdhAna- .. svayam birAjate the. unakI vANI... aur jo abhI ho rahA hai vah gurudevake prabhAvamen hI ho rahA hai, aisA hI mAnanA chAhiye. vahI AtmArthItAkI shobhA hai aur vahI AtmAkA prayojan hai. dUsarA sab kuchh svayam kare vah kuchh nahIn. jo karatA hai vah svayamke liye karatA hai. sachchI shraddhA ho, gnAtAkI dhArA ho, usake sAth virakti ho, gnAyakatA pragaT ho aur Asrav nahIn chhUTe aisA nahIn banatA. gnAyakatA pragaT huyI use kahen ki use vignAnaghan vastu ... gnAyakatA ho usake sAth abhI asthiratA shubhabhAv hotA hai. usakI bhUmikAke yogya, bhUmikA anusAr sachche dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, kAryo, us anusAr use amuk prakArake shubhabhAv sAthamen hote hI hain.

.. AtmAkI bahut bAt Aye, shAstramen-samayasAr Adimen. yah manuShyajIvan mushkilase mile, usamen ye sab yog milanA mahAmushkil hai. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA vah mArga kaise grahaN ho? vah karanA hai. yah sharIr padArtha bhinna hai, usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai, AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai aur andar vibhAv hotA hai vah svayamkA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah bhinna AtmA kaise jAnanemen Aye vahI nishchayase karanA hai. samayasAr paDh le, svAdhyAy kar le, lekin karanA to antaramen hai. nishchayase jab antaramen Utare aur svayamkI pariNati kaise palaTe to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. sIkhe vah ThIk hai ki svayamko jAnakArI prApta hotI hai ki muktikA mArga kyA hai, parantu antaramen utAre to usamen bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. andar AtmAkI prApti hotI hai. manuShyajIvanamen vahI karanA hai.

AtmAkI ruchi kaise pragaT ho? nishchayase to vah karanA hai. bAkI sab bAharakA hai. antaramen hove vah nishchay hai. anantakAlamen kiyA hai, sab kiyA, svayam anant bAr muni huA, sab huA lekin AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn. AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? satya to vah hai. dev-guru-shAstra (ke prati) shubhabhAvamen unakI bhakti (AtI hai), lekin antaramen AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? AtmA bhinna paDe to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. AtmA jAnanevAlA gnAyakasvabhAv hai. andarase pahachAne. mAtra buddhise vichAr kare vah alag hai aur antaramen pahachAnamen Aye, to antarase bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bAharase nahIn hotA. antar pariNati palaTe to hotA hai.

jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa (hai). jinapratimA jin sArakhI. jinendra bhagavAnake darshan ho aur andar AtmAke vichArase sarva dukh khatma ho jAte hain. jinendra dev sarvotkRuShTa hain. shubhabhAvamen ek jinendra dev aur guru, jinendra devake Ashrayase aur andar AtmAkA Ashray lenese

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sab dukh (Tal jAte hain). anAdikAlakA vibhAv Tal jAtA hai to sab dukh Tal jAte hain. isaliye AtmAkA Ashray lenA aur bAharase jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakA Ashray, vah satya Ashray hai. jinendra dev jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain, guru jo sAdhanA kare, gurudev is jagatamen panchamakAlamen sarvotkRuShTa the. tattvakI bAt Aye, vah sab sarvotkRuShTa hai, usakA Ashray lenA aur andar AtmAkA Ashray lenA.

yah vichAr karanA, AtmA gnAyak hai. usamen koI paravastu to usakI hai hI nahIn, ye sharIr bhI usakA nahIn hai, to koI vastu kahAn svayamkI honevAlI hai? aur huI bhI nahIn hai. usase atyant bhinna hai. usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna, svayamke dravya-guN- paryAy bhinna. sharIrake sAth bhI jIvako sambandha nahIn hai to anya kisIke sAth kahAn- se sambandha hogA? andar vibhAv svabhAv bhI svayamkA nahIn hai. vah svayamkA svabhAv nahIn hai. svayam akelA gnAyak hai, lekin gnAyak mahimAse chaitanyadev hai, usamen use andar ruchi lage aur Ananda ho aisA AtmA hai. vahI nishchayase karanA hai. andar upayog nahIn Aye to bAharamen jinendra dev-guru aur shAstrakA Ashray, vah jIvako kalyANakArI aur mangalakArI hai aur vahI sukhakA kAraN hai.

(ananta kAl) gayA usamen janma-maraN karate-karate yah manuShyabhav milatA hai, usamen aise gurudev mile to vah ek Ashray lene jaisA hai. vah dharmakA Ashray vah satya Ashray hai. Apane to bahut samajhA hai, Apako bahut ruchi hai, gurudevakA bahut sunA hai to phir vahI karane jaisA hai. vah bhUlanA hI hogA. (dukh) lage to palaT denA, chittako (badal denA). andar AtmA pahachAnamen nahIn Aye aur usamen nahIn muDe to bAharase jinendra dev, guru aur shAstramen chitta lagAye.

AtmA sabase bhinna gnAyak shuddhAtmA (hai). shuddhAtmA mahimAkA bhaNDAr hai, anant guNonse bharapUr hai, usakA smaraN karanA, usakA svabhAv shAstramen (kahe) tattvakA vichAr karanA, vah karanA hai.

sabako (laganI) lagAyI ki AtmA alag hai. gurudevase koI apUrvatA sabako lagI. ab to gurudevane jo kahA vahI kahanA hai. bAkI sabamen gurudev jo apUrvatA le Aye hain, pUrA parivartan, koI alag hI parivartan (ho gayA). sthAnakavAsI, derAvAsI, digambaron sabamen koI alag hI prakArakA parivartan le Aye. bahut kiyA hai. unhen kisIke sAth kI jarUrat nahIn paDatI, ve to mahApuruSh the.

mumukShu- prabhAvanA baDhatI jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevakA prabhAv hai. pUrA parivartan karake gaye hain. andar jinhonne grahaN kiyA hai usakI prabhAvanA hotI hai. pUrA parivartan gurudev le Aye. sab koI kriyAmen

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paDe the, koI kahIn the, koI bAharase dharma mAnate the, bAharase shuddhi-ashuddhi paDI thI, koI shAstra paDhe, sIkh le, paDh le to dharma ho jAye athavA upavAs yA dUsarA kuchh kar le athavA (bAhya) shuddhi-ashuddhi Adi anek prakAramen paDe the. gurudevane pUrA parivartan kar diyA. bhAvanApradhAna. kriyAse kuchh nahIn hai, gurudevane antar dRuShTi karavAyI.

mumukShu- pratham hI pravachan sune aur dUsare dinase digambara.

samAdhAna- sab log vichAr karane lage ki ye kuchh alag kahate hain. dravyadRuShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak andar sAthamen sab AtA thA, chAron pahalUse kahate the. .. pUrvak andar vairAgya, mahimA, bhakti Adi sab unakI vANImen AtA thA.

... dravyadRuShTikI mukhyatApUrvak sab use khyAl hotA hai, asthiratA Adi sabakA khyAl ho to sAdhanA hotI hai. ... mukhya rakhakar bhedagnAnakI dhArA, usamen alpa asthiratAkA use khyAl hai, to use sAdhan (hotI hai). kachhu hai hI nahIn, aisA mAn le to dravyadRuShTi hI samyak nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- shuShkatA A jAye. uttara- shuShkatA A jAye. dravyadRuShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak gnAnamen sabakA khyAl hotA hai.

mumukShu- dravyadRuShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak gnAnamen sab khyAl hai.

samAdhAna- sabakA khyAl hai.

mumukShu- asthiratAkA bhI khyAl hai.

samAdhAna- khyAl hai. kamI hai, adhUrApan hai, sab khyAl hai. abhI karanekA bAkI hai, abhI lInatA bAkI hai, sabakA khyAl hai. dravyadRuShTise bhale dravya shuddha hai, aise dravyadRuShTikI pradhAnatA honeke bAvajUd paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai usakA khyAl hai. gurudevakI vANImen sab AtA thA, chAron pahalU.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- abhI unako rAg hai, us prakArakA prashasta rAg hai, bhakti hai, Aye binA nahIn rahatA. shubharAg hai dev-guru-shAstra(kA), jAnate hain. bhedagnAn hai ki yah merA svarUp nahIn hai, rAg hai. lekin bhUmikA hai isaliye AtA hai. jAnate hain, parantu sAdhanA abhI bAkI hai, isaliye puruShArtha Dor bhI sAthamen hai. maryAdA chhoDakar bAhar nahIn jAtA. ekatva nahIn hotA, ekatva nahIn hotA, vaisI AkUlatA nahIn hai, phir bhI khyAl hai ki AtA hai. svayam bhinna rahatA hai. asthiratA hai usakA khyAl hai. khyAl hai aur puruShArthakI Dor hAthamen hai. puruShArthakI Dor chhoDate nahIn hai. sahaj dashA hotI hai. gnAyakakI gnAtAdhArA sahaj dravyadRuShTi chAlU rahatI honepar bhI sAthamen puruShArthakI Dor hAthamen hai. maryAdAse

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adhik bAhar nahIn jAtA. usakI samyagdarshanakI bhUmikA hai, us anusAr (rAg AtA hai). pancham guNasthAn vAle unakI bhUmikA anusAr puruShArthakI Dor (hotI hai), Age baDhate jAte hain. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAn vAle antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen svarUpamen lIn hote hain, to bhI bAhar Ate hain tab unhe dev-guru-shAstrake shubh pariNAm Ate hain, shAstra likhate hain. padmanandI AchAryako bhaktike pariNAm Aye to bhaktike shlok likhe. anek prakArake shAstra likhate hain. antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen andar jAte hain.

mumukShu- pariNati paramen jAye to khed hotA hai.

samAdhAna- khed hotA hai. parantu jAnate hain ki mere puruShArthakI mandatA hai. isamen juDanA hotA hai, mujhe to pUrNa honA hai, to bhI puruShArthakI Dor hAthameen hai.

mumukShu- gnAtAdhArA to aviratarUpase chAlU rahatI hai. phir bhI jAnate hain aur puruShArthakI Dor bhI unake hAthamen hai.

samAdhAna- gnAtAdhArA chAlU hai to bhI asthiratAkA khyAl (hai), puruShArthakI Dor hAthamen hai. maryAdAse adhik bAhar nahIn jAtA.

mumukShu- gnAnIkA hRuday Apane khol diyA.

mumukShu- jAnate hain, phir bhI maryAdAmen..

samAdhAna- vah to use vikalpapUrvak hai to bhI usakI maryAdA bAhar pariNati nahIn hotI. gnAn .. vah to bhedagnAnakI dhArA hai, puruShArthakI Dor (hAthamen hai). jise AtmAkA prayojan sAdhanA hai, usakI amuk prakArake maryAdA bAhar nahIn jAte. use vibhAv pariNati chAhiye hI nahIn. AtmArthIkA jo prayojan hai, AtmAko sAdhanA hai, AtmAkI laganI lagI hai, vibhAv pariNatimen use ekatva chhUTA nahIn hai, to bhI vah maryAdA bAhar nahIn jAtA. to hI AtmAko sAdh sakatA hai, nahIn to kahAn-se sAdhe? to hI use AtmA mile, nahIn to kahAn-se mile?

mumukShu- AtmArthI mumukShu bhI apanI maryAdAke bAhar nahIn jAtA. samAdhAna- tabhI usakI pAtratA kahI jAtI hai. nahIn to AtmAkA prayojan hai to AtmA kahAn-se mile? amuk pAtratA to honI hI chAhiye.