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mumukShu- bhAvabhAsan...

samAdhAna- usakI jignAsA, bhAvanA, laganI sab hotA hai tab hotA hai. usakI laganIke binA nahIn ho sakatA hai. andar vichAr karake svabhAvako grahaN kare, andar sUkShma upayog karake bArambAr vichAr karake usako grahaN karanA chAhiye, to grahaN hotA hai.

yah sharIr to paradravya hai, vibhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahIn. jo jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai, vah gnAyak AtmAkA svabhAv hai, jAnanekA svabhAv hai. usako grahaN karanA. mAtra Upar-Uparase grahaN karanA to nahIn hotA, bhItaramense grahaN karanA chAhiye. jab nahIn hotA hai tab aisA vichAr hotA hai, aisA bArambAr vichAr kare, nakkI kare, parantu bhItaramense grahaN karanA hai to usakI jignAsA, laganI lage tab hotA hai. AtmAke binA chain nahIn paDe, gaharAIse laganI lage tab (hotA hai), laganIke binA nahIn ho sakatA hai. bAharamen ekatvabuddhi anAdikAlase ho rahI hai. usase bhedagnAn kare, ekatva toD ki merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main to AtmA hI hUn, main gnAyak jAnanevAlA hUn. aisA nakkI to kare parantu bhItaramense pariNati hove, tab usakA grahaN hove, tab hotA hai. gnAyak par dRuShTi karanI chAhiye, usakA gnAn karanA chAhiye. vikalpase hotA hai, lekin bhItaramen sahaj hove tab yathArtha hotA hai. usake binA yathArtha (nahIn hotA).

mumukShu- abhI vikalpa to rukate hI nahIn. jaise svAdhyAy karate hain, jAp bhI dete hain, mAn lIjiye, to vikalpa to rukate hI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- anAdikA abhyAs hai. anAdikA veg chal rahA hai. usamen dhIrA hokar apaneko grahaN kare tab hove. pragnAchhainI jab pragaT hove, bhItaramen usakI sandhi (mAlUm paDe ki), gnAn kyA hai aur vibhAv kyA hai, rAg kaun hai aur main kaun hUn, sandhiko barAbar vichAr kare, grahaN kare ki yah gnAn hai, yah rAg hai. barAbar sUkShma hokar usakA bhedagnAn kare to hotA hai, usake binA nahIn ho sakatA.

AtA hai na ki, bArambAr guru batAte hain. ... tab yadi apanI taiyArI jAgRut hove tab hove, yadi jAgRut nahIn hove to nahIn hotA hai. dhobIke gharase vastra lekar oDh

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liyA, to kahate hain, merA vastra de de. aise guru bArambAr kahate hain, terA svabhAv nahIn hai. tum bhinna AtmA ho. bArambAr kahe tab yadi jAgRut hove, puruShArtha kare tab jAgRut (hotA hai). jAgRut to svayamko honA paDegA. vahI to karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- hamako svayamko puruShArtha karanA hogA.

samAdhAna- puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. bahut puruShArtha kare, bArambAr (kare). aisA abhyAs to to din-rAt chaubIs ghaNTe vibhAv to ho rahA hai. usamen ek bAr kare, do bAr kare aise to nahIn hotA hai. bArambAr use bhinna paDanekI laganI honI chAhie. bArambAr, kShaN-kShaNamen main bhinna hUn, bhinna hUn, bArambAr (kare). raTTA lagAtA hai, aise raTanamAtrase nahIn hotA hai. bhItaramense bhedagnAn kare tab hotA hai.

main gnAyak hUn, abhed gnAyakako grahaN kare. athavA guN ananta, paryAy, usakA lakShaN, usakA bhed hai vah vAstavik bhed nahIn hai. ananta guN AtmAmen hai. guNabhed, paryAyabhed par dRuShTi nahIn karake, main gnAyak hUn. AtmAmen ananta guN hai, vah jAn letA hai ki AtmAmen ananta guN-paryAy hain. lekin dRuShTi to ek gnAyak par rakhatA hai. usakA bhedagnAn kare tab hotA hai. puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. ... bal thA. sabako bhedagnAn ho, aise.

... AtmA to jAnanevAlA hai. AhAr-pAnI sab AtmAkA svabhAv to hai nahIn. peTamen jAtA hai, AtmAmen to jAtA nahIn. AhAr-pAnI... jab vItarAg, kevalagnAn hotA hai tab sab chhUT jAtA hai.

mumukShu- ... chhUTanekA prayojan hai.

samAdhAna- muni jangalamen jAte hain. AtmAkI kShaN-kShaNamen svAnubhUti karate hain. kShaNamen andar svAnubhUti, kShaNamen bAhar Ave, kShaNamen andar, kShaNamen bAhar Ave. koI shubh pariNAm hote hain. svAdhyAy, ... aisA karate hain. AhArakA vikalpa kabhI Ave to bAhar Ave to kitanI jimmedArIse AhAr lete hain. aise to lete nahIn. AhAr kahAn AtmAkA svabhAv to hai nahIn. nirAhArI hai AtmA.

... sab toDane hI baiThe hain ve to. gnAyakako pragaT karanA, usamen kitanI jimmedArI hai. kisI bhI prakArakI apekShA nahIn hai, nirapekSha hain. AtmAkA dhyAn kare. aise bhAvalingI muniko dUsarI koI (apekShA nahIn hai). bhAvalingI muni abhI koI dikhAI nahIn dete hain. kundakundAchArya, amRutachandrAchArya bhAvalingI muni ...

AhArakI koI apekShA hI nahIn hai. svayam svayamkA lakShaN darshAtA hai ki ye rahA main. lekin dekhatA nahIn. gnAyak svayam svayamkI gnAyakatA dvArA darshAtA hai ki ye rahA main.

samAdhAna- ... antarakI jignAsA hove tab hotA hai. bhedagnAn karanese hotA hai.

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antaramen taiyArI hove, sharIr aur AtmA, vibhAv vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. sharIrato paradravya hai, vibhAvasvabhAv apanA nahIn hai. chaitanya gnAyakamUrti Anandase bharA huA hai. gnAnase bharA ananta guNasvarUp koI apUrva padArtha hai. usakA AtmAmen yathArtha gnAn karanA chAhiye, yathArtha shraddhA karanI chAhiye, usakI lagan laganI chAhiye. din-rAt laganI lage, usakA bhedagnAn kare. jo-jo vikalpa Ate hain, vibhAv hotA hain, un sabase main bhinna hUn, AtmA to bhinna svabhAv hai. gnAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnanA chAhiye. lakShaNake dvArA vah lakShya pahachAnamen AtA hai. lakShaNase AtmAko pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakI shraddhA-pratIt yathArtha (honI chAhiye). Upar-Uparase nahIn, bhItaramense hotA hai tab hotA hai.

bhedagnAn karanA chAhiye. bArambAr usakA bhedagnAnakA abhyAs karanese, din aur rAt, kShaN-kShaNamen aisA abhyAs hove tab yah hotA hai. bArambAr usakA vikalpase abhyAs nahIn, sahaj honA chAhiye. pahale to usakI bhAvanA kare, jignAsA kare, vikalpase nakkI kare ki yah AtmapadArtha main hUn. parantu bhItaramense aisA sahaj abhyAs bArambAr honA chAhiye, tab hotA hai. nahIn hove tabatak usakI bhAvanA kare, jignAsA kare, tattvakA vichAr kare. bArambAr shAstra abhyAs karake main AtmA hUn, aisA dhyey honA chAhiye ki muje AtmA kaise pragaT ho? aisI dRuShTi, aisA gnAn sab honA chAhiye. tab hotA hai.

mumukShu- Agamake dvArA to aisA paDh lete hain, lekin jaisA Apane kahA ki andaramen bAt nahIn jAtI hai, ....

samAdhAna- use barAbar nakkI karanA chAhiye. bhItaramense honA chAhiye. bhItaramen laganI lage, usakI mahimA lage ki yah koI anupam padArtha hai. mahimA lage tab hotA hai. mahimA lage, bArambAr vibhAvamen achchhA nahIn lage, yah sab AkUlatArUp hai. aisA bolanemAtra nahIn, bhItaramen aisA lage ki yah sab AkUlatA hai, dukh hai, merA svabhAv nahIn hai. main yah chaitanyatattva koI apUrva sukhasvarUp hai, usakI laganI lage tab hove. shAstra abhyAs nimitta hotA hai. parantu karanA to apaneko paDatA hai.

mumukShu- Apane sahaj pharamAyA, to sahaj aur puruShArtha, ye donon alag-alag chIj hai ki ek hI chIj hai?

samAdhAna- sahaj aur puruShArtha, puruShArtha aur sahaj, ye donon alag chIj hai. puruShArtha karanA, sahaj puruShArtha. sahaj kab hotA hai? sahaj guNa. gnAnaguN, darshanaguN Adi sahaj svabhAv hai. anAdiananta sahaj padArtha sahaj svatasiddha kisIne banAyA nahIn aisA sahaj hai. dravya sahaj hai, guN sahaj hai, sab sahaj hai, paryAy sahaj hai. parantu puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

gnAnaguN bhI sahaj hai. svatasiddha hove usako sahaj kahanemen AtA hai. lekan puruShArtha

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sahaj honA chAhiye. vikalpase kRutrimatAse kare ki yah main hUn, vichAr karake nakkI kare. pahale to aisA vichAr karake nakkI karanA paDatA hai. bAdamen usakI dashA hI aisI ho jAye. rAg-dveShakA anAdikA abhyAs hai to usako vikalpa nahIn karanA paDatA hai. vah to usakA veg sahaj hotA hai. anAdikA abhyAs chal rahA hai to aisA use sahaj jaisA ho gayA hai. vah to vAstavik vibhAv hai. vah vAstavik sahaj nahIn hai, vah vibhAv to kRutrim hai. apanA svabhAv hai vah sahaj hai. parantu usakA abhyAs sahaj honA chAhiye. puruShArtha, puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. svabhAv sahaj to anAdiananta hai, puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

puruShArtha kRutrimatA karake, haTh karake kare to aise haTh karake pahale AtI hai to haThase nahIn hotA. sahaj antaramen aisA lage to bArambAr pariNati us or chalI jAye, puruShArthakI pariNati chalI jAye. aise puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. sahaj yAnI svata, svata yAnI dravya bhI sahaj, guN sahaj, aise puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- jaise rAg-dveSh karanA sahaj ho gayA hai. sahaj ho jAtA hai, aisA sahaj bhAv, aisI sahajatA.

samAdhAna- aisI sahajatA. pahale to tattvakA vichAr kare. tattva vichAra. tattva vichAr na chale to usake liye shAstra abhyAsa. shAstra abhyAs yAnI shAstra abhyAs kar liyA, aise nahIn. mujhe AtmA kaise samajhamen Aye, aisA dhyey rakhakar karanA ki main AtmA kaise samajhun? mere dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai? parake kyA hai? main kaise samajhun? aisI jignAsA (sahit kare). shAstra paDh liyA, kar liyA to sab ho gayA, mainne to bahut kiyA, aisA nahIn honA chAhiye. bahut karanA bAkI hai, mujhe bhItaramen bahut karanA bAkI hai. shAstra abhyAsase sab kuchh nahIn ho jAtA. bhItaramen bahut karanA bAkI hai. aisI bhAvanA, jignAsA, usakI laganI laganI chAhiye. sarva pratham yah hai.

shAstra abhyAs, tattva vichAr kare. parantu tattva vichAr karake bhI main AtmA kaise grahaN karun? aisA honA chAhiye. laganI laganI chAhiye. AtmAkI mahimA honI chAhiye. sachchA gnAn honA chAhiye. lekin vah gnAn mAtra raTanamAtra nahIn, yathArtha gnAn honA chAhiye. usakA upAy to yahI hai. laganI lagAye, tattvakA vichAr kare, shAstra abhyAs kare. lekin shAstra abhyAs karane mAtra nahIn, dhyey rakhanA chAhiye. Atma svarUpako samajhanA chAhiye.

sachchA gnAna. sachchA gnAn karanekA puruShArtha to apaneko karanA paDatA hai. mAtra shAstra abhyAs to ananta kAlase bahut kar liyA. lekin bhItaramen AtmAko nahIn pahachAnA. apaneko nahIn jAnatA, sabako jAn letA hai. apaneko nahIn jAnatA hai to kyA huA?

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apaneko jAne. ek apaneko jAne to sabako jAn letA hai. sabako jAne aur apaneko nahIn jAne to kyA jAnA?

mumukShu- gyArah angakA jAnanevAlA apane AtmAko nahIn jAnatA hai kiyA? usamen Atma vastu nahIn AtI hai?

samAdhAna- Atmavastuko vah vAstavik nahIn jAnatA. aise hI jAnatA hai. aise hI paDh letA hai. bhItaramense gyArah ang ho jAtA hai. AtmA hai, gnAn hai, paryAy hai, guN hai, sab jAn letA hai. main AtmA hUn, usakA yathArtha svarUp bhItaramense nahIn jAnatA. aise jAnatA to hai, yathArtha nahIn jAnatA hai, bhItaramense nahIn jAnatA hai. AtmA rah gayA, AtmAkI pariNati pragaT karanI rah gayI, bAkI sab kuchh jAn liyA. gyArah ang jAn liyA, sab ho gayA.

mumukShu- vah to mAtra kShayopashamagnAn kahalAyA.

samAdhAna- vah kShayopashamagnAn mAtra hI huA. AtmAko nahIn jAnA, mAtra kShayopashamagnAn huA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! sarvArthasiddhike jo dev hain, ve (taintIs sAgar) tattva charchA karate hain. to usamen baDI jignAsA hai ki kyA tattvacharchA karate honge?

samAdhAna- anek prakArakI. dravya-guN-paryAy Adi. gnAnakA samudra hai AtmA to. ananta guN, gnAn to ananta-ananta bharA hai. usamen ananta apekShAen hain, ananta dharma hain. ekamen sab A jAtA hai. ekamen sabakuchh aur usakA vistAr kare to ananta ho jAtA hai. isaliye sAgaropam, 33 sAgaropam tak charchA karate hain. gnAn to ananta hai. bArah ang, chaudah pUrvakA gnAn hotA hai to bhI usakI sImI-maryAdA hotI hai. parantu gnAnakA svabhAv to ananta-ananta hai.

bhItaramen munikI bhAnti sthir nahIn jAte. isaliye chaturtha guNasthAn rahatA hai. chhaThThI- sAtaven guNasthAnakI bhUmikA nahIn AtI. isaliye shAstra svAdhyAyamen, charchAmen sab kAl jAtA hai. charchAmen, bhagavAnakI pUjAmen, aise nikAlate hain. charchAmen, bhagavAnakI pUjAmen, bhaktimen... ananta gnAnakA dariyA hai. gnAn to ananta-ananta hai. lokAlokako jAnanevAlA ek samayamen. sab dravya-guN-paryAyako, dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv ananta kAl gayA, vartamAn, bhaviShya ananta-anantako jAnanevAlA gnAn aisA kevalagnAn, us kevalagnAnamen anantatA bharI hai. chaudah pUrva bArah angakA gnAn bhI sImAvAlA hai. to bhI usakI charchA karate hain. usakI mahimA aisI hotI hai shrutagnAnakI to charchA karate hain.

samyagdarshan hai. samyagdarshanamen ek AtmAko jAnA hai. ek AtmA jAnA usamen sabakuchh A jAtA hai. usakA vistAr kare to ananta ho jAtA hai. ekamen sab A jAtA hai,

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lekin usakA vistAr karanese ananta ho jAtA hai. usameen charchA chalatI hai.

mumukShu- ... to us samay gurudev apane andar chale jAte the?

samAdhAna- bhagavAnakI mahimA, tattvakI ... vastu padArthakI unako mahimA AtI thI. isaliye AhA..hA.. (ho jAtA thA). antaramen chale jAye to vikalpa chhUTakar (jA sakate hain). AhA..hA.. hotA thA, usakI utanI mahimA AtI thI. AtmA aisA padArtha! aisA padArtha AtmA hai! aisA AtmA hai! aisI vastu hai! aisA tattvakA svarUp hai, isaliye usako AhA..hA.. hotA thA. bhagavAn AtmA, bhagavAn AtmAkI mahimA lagatI thI. main AtmA bhagavAn aisA hUn. aisA koI anupam padArtha AtmA bhagavAn hai. apaneko pahachAnA. bolate the, sab bhagavAn hai. apane bhagavAn AtmAko pahachAn lenese sab bhagavAn AtmA hai. bahut mahimAse bolate the. unako utanI mahimA AtI thI.

vastu tattva padArthakI, padArthake tattvakI utanI mahimA AtI thI, isaliye AhA..hA.. bArambAr AtA thA. mahimA AtI thI, bhItar nahIn chale jAte, unako utanI mahimA, tattvakI bahut mahimA thI. dekhanevAle to dekhate hI rahate the ki kyA bolate hain ki kyA bolate hain? vastu padArtha kaisA hogA? sabako aisA lagatA thA, padArtha kaisA hogA? AtmA kaisA hogA? gurudev bAr-bAr AhA..hA.. bolate the. unako bahut mahimA AtI thI.

mumukShu- tIrthankarakA dravya..

samAdhAna- tIrthankarakA dravya thA. yah samajho, samajho. yah padArtha koI anupam hai, use samajho. bAr-bAr samajhamen AtA hai? pahale to aisA kahe ki samajhamen AtA hai? samajhamen AtA hai? aisA bolate the. AhA.. AhA.. aisA padArtha! aisA padArtha sab samajho. padArthakI mahimA aisI AtI thI.

mumukShu- svayam aisA mahimAvant hai.

samAdhAna- svayam aisA mahimAvant hai. usakI mahimA unako AtI thI. mahimAse bolate the, bhagavAn AtmA. shAstrakA artha kare to oho..! AchAryadev aisA kahate hain! AtmAkA svarUp AchAryadev aisA kahate hain! aisA karake AhA..hA.. AtA thA. AchAyAkI, shAstronkI utanI mahimA AtI thI, tattva padArthakI utanI mahimA AtI thI. isaliye bArambAr AhA.. AhA.. (AtA thA). tattva padArthakI unako bahut mahimA thI. dekhanevAle to dekhate rah jAte. AtmA kyA padArtha hogA? unakI vANI koI apUrva thI.

mumukShu- tAtkAlik...

samAdhAna- hAn, ekadama. gurudev aisA bolate hain to AtmA kaisA hogA? bArambAr AhA.. AhA.. bolate the.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!