Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 124.

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samAdhAna- .. samyagdarshanapUrvak gnAn aur samyagdarshanapUrvakakA chAritra vah satya hai, vah satya chAritra hai.

.. rAg-dveSh TAlanekA ek vyavahArakA prakAr hai. yathArthamen to antaramense TAlanA hai. vah to vibhAv hai.

.. prApta karanA vahI bhavake abhAvakA upAy hai. gnAn, darshan, chAritrakI ArAdhanA karanA vah hai. ratnatraya. AtmA gnAnasvarUp hai, ananta guNase bharapUr hai. dasalakShaN munikA ArAdhanA parva hai. munike dharma hain. shrAvakonko bhI karane jaisA hai. gnAn, darshan, chAritra ratnatrayakI ArAdhanA karane jaisI hai.

gurudevane samyagdarshan kaise prApta ho, usakA upAy batAyA, vah karanA hai. bAkI bAharakA to anek bAr kiyA hI hai. sab kriyAen kI, shubh pariNAm (kiye), puNya bandhan (huA), parantu bhedagnAn karake jo antaramense ratnatrayakI prApti ho vahI mokShakA upAy hai. sharIk kahAn apanA hai, vedanA kahAn AtmAmen hai, AtmA to nirAlA chaitanya tattva hai. usamen koI chIj pravesh nahIn kar sakatI. ratnatrayakI ArAdhanA karanI, vah karanekA hai.

mumukShu- (Ap to) ArAdhanA karake pariNamit ho gaye ho, hamen...

samAdhAna- samyagdarshan, gnAn aur chAritra alag hai. sab mAn rahe hain vyavahArakA vah alag hai. vah sab to vikalparUp hai. kitane to kriyAmen mAnate hain, koI shubhabhAvamen mAnate hain. gnAn, darshan, chAritrakA bhed paDA vah bhI shubhabhAv hai, andar ratnatrayakI ArAdhanA karanI. gnAn AtmAmen (hai), darshan AtmAmen (hai).

.. bhedagnAn karanA hai. svayam bhinna (hai). sab dekhatA hai parantu usase bhinnatAkI shraddhA kare ki main isase bhinna hUn.

... shuddha svabhAvakI pariNatirUp kriyA, vah antarakI kriyA antaramen hai. chaitanyasvabhAv par dRuShTi karake andar svabhAvarUp pariNati pragaT ho, vah svabhAvakriyA hai. .. shraddhA bhinna honI chAhiye ki main bhinna hUn.

.. kShamA, mArdav, Arjav Adi shrAvakonko bhI karane jaisA hai, samyagdarshanapUrvaka.


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vah pragaT nahIn to tabatak usakI ArAdhanA karanI, usakA abhyAs karane jaisA hai. usake sAth yah sab dharma Ate hain. kShamA, Arjav, mArdav vah sab ArAdhanA karane jaisI hai. ratnatrayakI ArAdhanA.

.. ArAdhanA karanese usamen gnAyakakI ArAdhanA karanese ... AtmA chaitanyadevakI prApti hotI hai. bAkI dev-guru-shAstrakI virAdhanA karanese usakA phal achchhA nahIn AtA. ArAdhanA karanese phal achchhA AtA hai. .. ArAdhanAmen AtmAkI ArAdhanA samA jAtI hai. AtmAkI ArAdhanApUrvak vah sab hotA hai. vah karanese usamen AtmA Upar AtA hai aur usakI yadi virAdhanA kI to dUr ho jAtA hai. vaise AtmAse bhI dUr jAtA hai, aisA usakA Ashay hai. virAdhanA karanese usakA phal achchhA nahIn AtA hai aur ArAdhanA karanese phal achchhA AtA hai.

puNyakI ichchhA karane jaisA nahIn hai. andar AtmA-shuddhAtmAkA phal Aye, shuddhAtmAkI pariNati prApta ho vah karane jaisA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI ArAdhanAmen vah samAyA hai. usamen shubh to bIchamen hotA hI hai. jahAn anAj pakatA hai, vahAn DanThal sAthamen hotA hI hai. DanThal par dRuShTi nahIn hai, dAne par dRuShTi hai. shuddhAtmAkA phal Ave usamen puNyakA DanThal to sAthamen hotA hI hai. puNya to sAthamen hotA hI hai.

.. to samIp Ave hI. jisakI shuddhAtmA par dRuShTi ho. .. gurudev kahate hain na? ... shuddhAtmA par dRuShTi... jinendra mahimA koI alag vastu hai, usamen AtmAkI mahimA samAviShTa hai. jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa tIrthankaradev hain. unakI mahimA yAnI antarangase AyI huyI mahimA, usamen chaitanyadevakI mahimA samAviShTa hai. sachchA, yathArtha ho to. yathArtha bhedapUrvak ho to. .. AtmAkI ArAdhanA karane jaisA hai.

.. pahale to kahAn mandir jAnA Adi kuchh thA nahIn. shAstramen AtA hai na? jin pratimA jin sArakhI. gurudevane sab batAyA hai. sAkShAt jinendra dev to abhI is bharatakShetramen nahIn hai. to unakI pratimAjIkI sthApanA karake pUjA karanekA AtA hai. sAkShAt bhagavAn virAjate hon, unakI to indron pUjA karate hain. pratimAonkI bhI chaturtha kAlamen pUjA karate hain, to vah mArga hI hai. pratimAonkA sthApan karate hain, pUjA karate hain, shAshvat pratimAen jagatamen hain. jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa tIrthankaradev hain to jagatake paramANu bhI shAshvat ratnakI pratimArUp pariNamit ho gaye hain. jagatake pudagal bhI. ratnakI shAshvat pratimAen hain. Urdhvalok, madhyalokamen shAshvat pratimAen hain. merumen, nandIshvaramen ratnakI pAnchasau-pAnchasau dhanuShakI, jaise bhagavAn samavasaraNamen virAjate hain, vaisI pratimAen hain, ekamAtra dhvani-divyadhvani nahIn hai.

jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa bhagavAn tIrthankaradev hain. ve sarvotkRuShTa hain to jagatake paramANu bhI ratnamay pratimArUp shAshvat pariNamit ho gaye hain. yah batAtA hai ki jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa


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jinendra dev hain. dev unakI pUjA karate hain ki yah bhagavAn AdaraNIy hain. akRutrim hai parantu kudarat pariNamit huyI hai. akRutrim shAshvat pratimAen, us rUp kudarat pariNamit ho gayI hai. ata shrAvak bhI us tarah pratimAonkI sthApanA karate hain. chaturtha kAlamen bhI pratimAonkI sthApanA hotI hai aur panchamakAlamen (bhI karate hain), vah mArga hI hai.

baDe rAjA, chakravartI bhI pratimAonkI sthApanA karate hain. mandir banavAte hain, pratimAonkI sthApanA karate hain. antaramen gnAyakadev samajhamen nahIn AyA hai, pUrNatA prApta nahIn huyI hai tabatak bAharamen shubhabhAvamen jinendra dev, guru evan shAstrake shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate. ... muni hon, ve bhagavAnake darshan to karate hI hain. pUjA to shrAvak karate hain aur muni darshan to karate hI hain.

mumukShu- .. aur gnAnakA ughAD bhI hai, parantu rAg jitanA spaShTa gney hotA hai, us tarah ughAD gney nahIn hotA hai.

samAdhAna- rAg dikhatA hai. rAg anAdikA.. (vastuko) dekhatA nahIn hai aur svayam rAgako dekhatA hai. rAgamen ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye. .. to svayam hI hai. apanI or dRuShTi kare to gnAn bhI dikhAI de. parantu dRuShTi apanI or nahIn hai aur rAg or dRuShTi hai. rAgakA vedan hai. gnAnakI or dRuShTi nahIn karatA hai, gnAnakA vedan nahIn karatA hai. dikhAI nahIn detA hai. anAdikA abhyAs rAgakI orakA hai isaliye.

.. jAnanevAlA kaun hai? svayam hI hai. rAg hai use jAnA kisane? svayamne. svayam svayamko nahIn dekhatA hai. anAdikI aisI bhram buddhi ho gayI hai.

mumukShu- pahale to jis gnAnakA grahaN hotA hai vah to paryAy hai na?

samAdhAna- gnAnakA grahaN hotA hai vah paryAy hai, lekin vah grahaN kise karatI hai? gnAn svayam svayamko grahaN karatA hai, shAshvat dravyako grahaN karatI hai. grahaN karanevAlI bhale paryAy hai, parantu shAshvat dravyako grahaN karatI hai. vah paryAyako dekhatA nahIn hai, vah dekhatA hai shAshvat dravyako dekhatA hai. paryAy to bIchamen AtI hai. paryAy to grahaN karatI hai, parantu grahaN karanA kise hai? ki shAshvat dravyako grahaN karanA hai.

.. paryAy is or Aye, parantu svakI or paryAy jAtI hai, lekin grahaN akhaNDa evan shAshvatako grahaN karanekA hai. ansh bhI anshIko grahaN karatA hai, pUrNako. to hI yathArthatAse grahaN kiyA hai. ek ansh grahaN hotA ho to grahaN nahIn kiyA hai. anshI grahaN ho to hI usane yathArtha grahaN kiyA hai.

mumukShu- .. jisake dvArA grahaN hotA hai.

samAdhAna- gnAn hI asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. mukhya lakShaN gnAn hI hai. ... to bAdamen pragaT hotA hai, pahale to use gnAnase grahaN hotA hai. gnAn hI asAdhAraN lakShaN


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hai. use bhedagnAn ho to shAnti pragaT ho, bAkI shAntikA lakShaN pahale (grahaN nahIn hotA hai), pahale gnAnakA lakShaN asAdhAraN hai. ananta guN hai, parantu asAdhAraN visheSh lakShaN ho to gnAn hI hai. gnAn kaho, chetanA kaho, jo bhI kaho, upayog kaho. sab ek hI hai. upayog yAnI pUrA le lenA, pUrA gnAn AtmA. koI jagah upayogako paryAy kahA ho, upayog pUrA bhI lete hain, upayogamen upayog yAnI pUrA le lenA. lekin vah ek hI hai. gnAnamen sab A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- .. usakA lakShaN shAnti aur Ananda bane ki usakA lakShaN bhI gnAn hI rahe?

samAdhAna- use kahAn phir lakShaNase grahaN karanekA hai? use to grahaN ho gayA hai, use grahaN nahIn karanekA hai. use gnAyak grahaN ho gayA hai. gnAyak use hAjarAhajUr sab lakShaN hI hai. gnAyak hai, shAnti, Ananda sab hai. use grahaN karanekA nahIn hai, use grahaN ho gayA hai. pUrA gnAyak grahaN karatA hai, usamen use shAnti, gnAyakatA sab A jAtA hai. vedakatA, chaitanyatA ye sab jIv vilAsa. sab usamen A jAtA hai. samatA, ramatA, UrdhvatA, gnAyakatA, sukhabhAsa. vedakatA, chaitanyatA ye sab jIv vilAsa. samatA, ramatA. ramya svabhAv hai, UrdhvatA, gnAyakatA, sukhabhAs sab gnAyakamen A jAtA hai. vedakatA, chaitanyatA vah sab jIvake lakShaN hai. vah jise grahaN huA usamen sab A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnIko pariNati vyApArarUp hotI hai aisA Ap pharamAte ho. parantu usakA artha samajhamen nahIn AtA hai.

samAdhAna- vyApArarUp arthAt gnAyakatA aur bhedavignAnakI pariNati savikalpa dashAmen gnAnIko jo svAnubhUti huyI, usake bAd jo savikalpa dashA hotI hai, usamen gnAyakakI dhArA use vartatI hai. jitane anshamen use gnAyakatA pragaT huyI hai, pUrI dRuShTine to dravyako grahaN kiyA. usamen gnAn us or jhukA hai aur Anshik pariNati jhukI hai. isaliye usakI gnAyakatAkI dhArA vartatI hI rahatI hai. use visheSh-visheSh puruShArthakI dhArA, bhedagnAnakI dhArA vartatI rahatI hai. usakA puruShArthakA vyApAr chalatA rahatA hai.

kShaN-kShaNameen use bhedagnAnakI dhArA vartatI hI rahatI hai. chAhe jaise shubh vikalpa ho to bhI use bhedagnAnakI dhArA, gnAtAkI dhArA vartatI hI rahatI hai. vah vartatI hai, use kabhI svAnubhUti hotI hai, kabhI vah savikalpatAmen ho, lekin bhedagnAnakI dhArA use kShaN-kShaNamen chalatI hai. chAhe jo bhI kAryamen ho, vikalpamen ho, bhedagnAnakI dhArA gnAyakakI dhArA, use Anshik shAntikA vedan, gnAyakatA vah sab use chhUTatA nahIn hai. sabase urdhva bhinna rahatA hai. vah use chhUTatA nahIn. jAgate, sote, svapnamen bhI use gnAyakatAkI dhArA aise hI chalatI rahatI hai.


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mumukShu- jyAdAse jyAdA kitanI shIghratAse nirvikalpa dashA ho sakatI hai?

samAdhAna- usake puruShArthakI yogyatA ho us anusAr hotI hai. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen kShaN-kShaNamen hotI hai, vaisA use nahIn hotA. chauthese pAnchavemen visheSh hotI hai. chautheke yogya ho utanA use hotA hai. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen hotI hai, aisA use chaturtha guNasthAnamen utanI shIghratAse nahIn hotI. bAkI jaisI usakI puruShArthakI gati ho, us anusAr hotA hai. usakA niyamit kAl nahIn hotA hai.

mumukShu- koI jIv tIvra puruShArthI ho to?

samAdhAna- to usakI pariNati andar ugratAse, gnAyakakI ugra pariNati ho to use visheSh hotI hai. kisIko amuk hotI hai, kisIko amuk hotI hai, parantu usakI bhUmikAkA ullanghan karake nahIn hotI, bhUmikA anusAr hotI hai.

mumukShu- ek dinamen pachAs-sAnTh bAr nirvikalpa dashA ho, aisA hotA hai?

samAdhAna- pachAs-sAnTh bAr ho aisI dashA chaturtha guNasthAnamen nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- tIn-chAr bAr hotI ho, aisA hai?

samAdhAna- aisA koI niyam nahIn hai. ... aisA nahIn hotA. svAnubhUti karanevAleko svAnubhUtikI ginatI par lakShya nahIn hai. use svabhAvakI shuddhi vRuddhigat karane par (lakShya) hotA hai. usamen usakI svAnubhUtikI dashA vardhamAn hotI jAtI hai. usake svabhAvakI nirmalatA, chAritrakI pariNati visheSh-visheSh nirmal hotI jAtI hai. us par usakI pariNati hotI hai, usamen use svAnubhUtikI dashA vardhamAn hotI jAtI hai. aisA karate-karate usakA ugra kAl hotA hai to munidashA AtI hai.

mumukShu- .. to gnAnIko kaise mAlUm paDe ki yah pAnchavA AyA?

samAdhAna- usakI pariNati nirmalatAke samay jo hai, usakI svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI jAtI hai, antaramen pariNatikI nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai. virakti baDhatI jAtI hai. gRuhasthAshramake yogya jo pariNAm hote hain, usase viraktike pariNAm visheSh vardhamAn hote jAte hain. isaliye vah pakaD sakatA hai.

mumukShu- nirvikalpa dashA ..

samAdhAna- nirvikalpa dashA baDhatI jAtI hai. savikalpa dashAmen virakti baDhatI jAtI hai. nirvikalpa dashA bhI baDhatI hai aur savikalpatAmen virakti jyAdA hotI hai.

mumukShu- chauthemen bhI us prakArase pharka paDatA hai? samAdhAna- chauthekI bhUmikA ek hotI hai, parantu usakI pariNatikI tAratamyatAmen pharka hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!