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mumukShuH- ... sat saral hai, sugam hai, satpuruSh milane chAhiye. usame.n satpuruShakA...

samAdhAnaH- is kAlame.n aise satpuruSh gurudev mile, mahAbhAgya!

mumukShuH- yah mArga batAyA.

samAdhAnaH- unakI vANI koI adabhut thI.

mumukShuH- bhagavAn AtmA, bhagavAn AtmA.. dAdaravAlo.nne likhA hai na? bhagavAn AtmAkI pukAr hai, ham to pAmar hai.n. bhagavAn AtmAkI pukAr sunakar padhAranA. ham to koI nahI.n hai, pAmar hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- .. gurudev mile aur vastukA svarUp (darshAyA ki) tU chaitanya bhagavAn hai. aisA kahanevAle is kAlame.n mile, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- kriyAkANDame.n chaDh gayA thA, bahinashrI bAr-bAr kahate hai.n. kriyAkANDame.n chaDh gayA thA, usame.n bhAvapradhAn, shuddha pariNatipradhAn aur j~nAyakapradhAn, vahA.N taka.

samAdhAnaH- sab kriyAme.n hI dharma mAnate the, a.ntar par dR^iShTi kahA.N thI. thoDe upavAs kar le, thoDA dhokh le aur paDh le, aisA kar le to dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate the. gurudevane kahA.N a.ntar dR^iShTi karavAyI. bAhya kriyA, vah to nahI.n, parantu andar shubh pariNAm ho vah bhI terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. bIchame.n shubh pariNAm Ate to hai, lekin vah terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. tU shuddhAtmA hai. a.ntarame.n guNake bhed paDe use jAnanA, j~nAn sab karanA, paryAyake, guNake bhedakA sab j~nAn karanA, dR^iShTi ek AtmA par rakhanI, ek abhed AtmA para. jAnanA, guNakA bhed, AtmAme.n ananta guN hai.n, usakA j~nAn karanA, paryAyakA j~nAn karanA, lekin bhed par rukanA mata. dR^iShTi AtmA par karanA. gurudevane kitanI sUkShma bAt karake apUrva rItase sabako batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevane nihAl kar diyA. ... ye bAt samajhAnI aur itanA prakAsh jAgR^it kiyA. nahI.n to sab sa.npradAyame.n paDe the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. sa.npradAyame.n chaDhe the.

mumukShuH- kriyAkANDame.n dharma mAnA thA.

samAdhAnaH- kriyAkANDame.n dharma (mAnA thA). shubhabhAvakI bhI kisIko mAlUm nahI.n

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thA, mAtra kriyA, itanA hI mAlUm thA.

mumukShuH- kamajor hai, nahI.n to aisA kyo.n bane?

samAdhAnaH- pa.nchamakAl hai.

mumukShuH- itane log Ate hai.n, sunate hai.n, dekhate hai.n ki gurudevakI vANI athavA gurudevakA tattva kyA thA. phir bhI dUsarI pravR^ittime.n paD jAte hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane to ek shuddhAtmA par dR^iShTi karaneko kahA hai. ek AtmA andar tU dekh, koI apUrva hai. pa.nchamakAl hai na, sab chalatA hai. bhagavAnakI aur munio.nkI vANI sunakar kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarmuhUrtame.n samyagdarshan prApta kar le. kShaN-kShaName.n, a.ntarmuhUrtame.n. koI munidashA prApta kar le, aisA kAl thA. vah kAl alag thA. yahA.N to abhI samyagdarshanakA nAm aur usakI bAt sunane milanA mushkil, bAt sune to prApta karanA durlabh, aisA yah kAl ho gayA hai. mahApuNyake kAraN gurudevase bAt sunane milI, samyagdarshanakI aur svAnubhUtikI. usakI ruchi, anek jIvo.nko gurudevake pratApase ruchi jAgR^it huyI. .. mushkil, gurudevake pratApase ruchi jAgR^it huyI.

mumukShuH- pahale to is or muDanA mushkil thA. gurudevake pratApase kitane jIv is or muDe.

samAdhAnaH- kitane muD gaye.

mumukShuH- phir bhI apane .. baiThe hai.n... hai, pa.nchamakAl to anAdi kAlakA hai. visheShatA yah hai, visheShatA isakI hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev dekar gaye hai.n, gurudev kah gaye hai.n ki mAtAjI virAjate hai.n, tab tak spaShTIkaraN AtA hai. Apake liye abhI bhI ek maukA hai. apane liye to ... aisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane sabako jAgR^it kiyA hai. pUre hindustAname.n, bhAratame.n sabako jAgR^it kar diyA.

mumukShuH- paradeshame.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, desh-videsh, AphrikAme.n har jagah, vilAyatame.n har jagaha. kitanA prachAr huA. pahale vah Ate the, samayasAr Adi paDhate hai.n to nI.nd AtI hai. aisA bolate the. pahale shurUAtame.n. aur vah paNDit to aisA kahe ki AtmAkI bAt Aye use ham ChoD dete the. chidAnanda AdikI bAt Aye.

mumukShuH- kailAshachandrajI bhAShaName.n bole the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kailAshachandrajI paNDitane bhAShaName.n bole. ek koI bhAI the, vah kahate the, samayasAr paDhe to nI.nd AtI hai. aisA koI kahatA thA. kailAshachandrajI paNDit

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kahate the, chidAnanda AtmA aisA Aye to ham ChoD dete the. yahA.N isakI bAt hai, ye to AtmAkI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- vah to varNan kiyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA karake (ChoD dete the).

mumukShuH- tiryak prachay aur Urdhva prachay, vah Aye to usakA varNan karate. j~nAnaghan Anandaka.nd Aye to chalane de. ye to varNan kiyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevake pratApase abhI sabako adhyAtmakI itanI ruchi (ho gayI hai). sab vA.nchan karane (lage). sab striyA.n vA.nchan kare. bhagavAnajIbhAIkI aurat bechAre vA.nchan kare. utanA vA.nchan kare utanI ruchi hai na. .. chale jAte. Tep Adi...

AtmA andar chaitanya svarUp AtmA hai, j~nAyak hai. ananta guNase bharA AtmA hai. us AtmAme.n Ananda, ananta guN sab AtmAme.n bharA hai. vah kaise pahachAname.n Aye aur kaise pragaT ho, usake liye yah sab karanekA hai. yah sharIr bhinna hai. andar vibhAvasvabhAv AtmAkA nahI.n hai. a.ntarame.n AtmAkI pahachAn kaise ho? bAr-bAr usakA vichAr, vA.nchan vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI lagan, mahimA Adi.

shAstrame.n AtA hai na? sphaTik to svabhAvase nirmal hai, parantu usame.n lAl-pIle phUl dikhate hai.n isaliye malin dikhatA hai. vaise AtmA svabhAvase to nirmal hai. mUl vastume.n to kahI.n malinatA hotI nahI.n. parantu vibhAvako nimitta hai, karmakA nimitta hai. puruShArthakI mandatAse svaya.n usame.n juDatA hai isaliye vibhAv hotA hai, apanA mUl svabhAv to nahI.n hai. parantu usakI dR^iShTi,.. AtmA nirmal svabhAv hai, us par dR^iShTi kare, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to vibhAv ChUT jAtA hai. pahale usakA bhedaj~nAn ho, phir usame.n lInatA baDhate-baDhate vah ChUT jAtA hai. upAy to ek hI hai.

shivabhUti muniko jyAdA nahI.n AtA thA. bhUl jAte the. mAtuSh aur mAruSha. gurune kahA, kahI.n rAg nahI.n karanA, dveSh nahI.n karanA. bhUl gaye. phir gurune kyA kahA thA? vah bhAI dAl dho rahI thI. gurune kahA, dAl bhinna aur ChilakA bhinna. vah dAl dho rahI hai. aisA gurune kahA thA ki, AtmA bhinna aur ye vibhAv bhinna, mere gurune aisA kahA thA. aisA karake a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAn karake a.ntarame.n itanI ugratA kI, j~nAyakakI dhArAkI itanI ugratA karI. aur ugratA karake andar dR^iShTi aisI sthApit kar dI, ugratAme.n bhedaj~nAn aur usame.n unakI pariNati aisI ugra ho gayI ki, kevalaj~nAn pragaT kar liyA. utanA puruShArtha a.ntarame.n, a.ntarmuhUrtame.n utanA puruShArtha kiyA.

shubhabhAv, shubhAshubh dono.n bhAv AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai, to munipanA munio.n kisake Ashrayase pAle.nge? usame.n AtA hai. pa.nch mahAvrat Adi sab shubh kahate ho to pa.nch

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mahAvratake AdhArake binA munipanA kaise pAle? munio.n apane chaitanyake AdhArase munipanA pAlate haiai.n. unakI svAnubhUtike AdhArase (pAlate hai.n). bAra.nbAr apane svAnubhavame.n-amR^itarasame.n lIn hote hai.n. usake Ashrayase munipanA pAlate hai.n. usame.n unhe.n shubhabhAv pa.nch mahAvrat to bIchame.n Ate hai.n. parantu usakA Ashray ho to hI munipanA pale, aisA nahI.n hai. lekin svAnubhUtikA jo Ananda hai, jo svAnubhUti kShaN-kShaName.n pragaT hotI hai, usake Ashrayase munipanA pAlate hai.n.

ataH pahale shraddhA to barAbar aisI karanI ki dono.n bhAv hai.n, usase mai.n bhinna nirvikalpa tattva hU.N. bIchame.n ye shubhabhAv Ate to hai.n, lekin vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi to chaitanya par sthApit karake, mai.n to sarvase bhinna chaitanya bhinna hU.N. dR^iShTi to barAbar aise dR^iDh karanI. phir bIchame.n shubhabhAv Aye vah dUsarI bAt hai. aise prAra.nbhame.n dev-guru-shAstra, vah sab pariNAm to sAthame.n hote hai.n. parantu mai.n chaitanya sarvase bhinna nirAlA hU.N. dR^iShTi to vah karane jaisI hai.

mumukShuH- .. jIvako kyo.n ... yah hamAre balubhAI kahate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA abhyAs hai. bAharakI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. isaliye usame.nse bhinna honA mushkil paDatA hai. buddhise nakkI karatA hai ki mai.n bhinna hU.N. parantu a.ntarame.nse pariNati bhinna nahI.n karatA hai. usase pariNatiko bhinna nahI.n karatA hai. isaliye aise hI chalA jAtA hai.

... tU bhagavAn AtmA, tU bhagavAn AtmA bAra.nbAr kahate the. parantu vah andarame.n dR^iDh karanA, pratIt bhale hI svaya.nko Ave, parantu andarase bhinna karanA AtmAkI pariNati bhinna karake, vah svaya.nko karanA hai. yah dravya chaitanya hai, ye usake guN hai.n, ye usakI paryAy hai. kahate hai.n na, jo bhagavAn AtmAko jAne,.... jo jinavarako jAne vah svaya.nko jAnatA hai. aise nakkI kare ki mai.n yahI hU.N. aisA dR^iDh nishchay karake usakA puruShArtha kare ki jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA hai, vaisA hI merA AtmA hai. aisA nakkI karake puruShArtha kare to ho. nakkI karake, buddhime.n nakkI kiyA, parantu puruShArtha to karanA paDatA hai. usakI pariNatiko bhinna karanA bAkI rahatA hai. ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai.

nij chaitanyame.n dR^iShTiko sthApit karanA bAkI rahatA hai. punaH, ek bAr karake ChoD de, aisA nahI.n. kShaN-kShaName.n use yAd karatA rahe, use mahimAse yAd karatA rahe. use shuShka ho jAy, aise nahI.n. use a.ntarase mahimA AnI chAhiye. yah chaitanya hI mahimAva.nt hai. aise.

mumukShuH- yah milA hai vah apUrva hai. sunanevAle hai.n, parantu sunanevAle sunate hai.n, lekin a.ntar pariNaman nahI.n karate hai.n. bAhar nikalate hI, shoragulame.n lag jAte hai.n.

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mumukShuH- jise jisakI ruchi ho vahA.N kitanA puruShArtha karatA hai. karatA hai ki nahI.n? sa.nsArame.n. yahA.N isakA puruShArtha (karanA). ruchikI kShati hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. to sab muDe haiai.n. ruchi to ek AtmAkA karane jaisA hai, yah sab bAharame.n dharma nahI.n hai. sarva shubhAshubh bhAvase AtmA bhinna hai. us dR^iShTi aur us ruchikI or to muDe hai.n. ab svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA hai. svaya.nko karanA hai. phir koI kahA.N ruke, koI kahA.N ruke. lekin karanekA to yah ek hI hai. gurudevane mArga to batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- thoDA kuCh kAm kare to pha.Ns jAy ki mai.nne Aj bahut baDA kAm kiyA. kartAbuddhi paDI hai na.

samAdhAnaH- mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, bhUl jAtA hai. mai.n to jAnanevAlA hU.N. bAharakA jo bananevAlA ho vaisA banatA hai, mai.n to mAtra nimitta banatA hU.N. mere rAgake kAraN, rAgake kAraN, merA jo rAg hotA hai, aj~nAnaavasthAme.n rAgakA kartA hai. bAharakA to kar sakatA nahI.n. rAg vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. lekin us rAgakA aj~nAn avasthAme.n kartA hai. parantu mai.n kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N. vah bhUl jAtA hai. j~nAtA honeke bAd alpa asthiratA Ave, use rAg AtA hai. parantu vah bAharakA to kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA. bAharake pheraphAr karanA vah to usake hAthakI bAt hI nahI.n hai. mAtra bhAv karatA hai. bhAv kare.

mumukShuH- kuCh yAd nahI.n AtA. vahA.N jAy to shoragulame.n yahA.N jAnA hai, vahA.N jAnA hai. bAhar nikale ki bhUl gaye. sahaj pariNAm jo yahA.N ho, aise vahA.N...

samAdhAnaH- yahA.N darshan ho, vahA.N sab bhUl jAte hai.n. ye bhUmime.n aisA hai. gurudevane bahut vaShA tak vANI barasAyI, yahA.N virAjate the. yahA.N (Akar) pariNAm badal jAya. ghar bhUl jAy aur ye sab yAd Aye.

mumukShuH- yah bhUmi bhI ma.ngal hai.

samAdhAnaH- AtA hai na, dravya ma.ngal, kShetra ma.ngal, kAl ma.ngal aur bhAv ma.ngala. mahApuruShakA dravya-gurudevakA dravya ma.ngal, ve jahA.N virAje vah kShetra ma.ngal, unho.nne jo kAl andarase pragaT kiyA vah kAl ma.ngal, unakA bhAv ma.ngala. andar jo shuddha pragaT kI vah bhAv ma.ngala. sab ma.ngal hI hai.

mahAvIr bhagavAn mokShame.n gaye vah kAl ma.ngal kahaneme.n AtA hai na? mahAvIr bhagavAnakA janma-din thA, chait shuklA-13. us 13ko ma.ngal kAl kahaneme.n AtA hai na. unakA jahA.N janma huA vah kShetra ma.ngala.

mumukShuH- ye kahI.n sunane nahI.n milatA. kahI.n nahI.n. kahI.n sunane nahI.n milatA.

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mumukShuH- gurudev bAr-bAr kahate the na, yah bAt kahI.n aur jagah nahI.n hai. koI sa.npradAyame.n yah bAt nahI.n hai. gurudevane sabakI dishA to badal dI. ruchikI dishA sabakI badal dI.