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pAp TALavAno sAcho upAy shun?
batAvanAr: – rAmajIbhAI mANekachand doshI
prasang pahelo.
pahelo mitra–tame ekavAr kahetA hatA ke puNyathI dharma thAy e laukik mAnyatAmAn ja puNyathI dharma na thAy
em avyakta rIte Ave chhe te shI rIte?
bIjo mitra–puNyathI dharma thAy e mAnyatAmAn pAp chhoDavA jevun chhe evI mAnyatA AvI ke kem?
(‘mAnyatA’) shabda e mATe vAparyo chhe ke– ‘mAnyatA’ thatAn ja chAritra ekadam pragaTatun nathI, paN te ja vakhate
anshe pragaTe chhe ane krame krame pUrun thAy chhe.)
pahelo mitra–pAp chhoDavun ja joIe evI mAnyatA to AvI ja.
bIjo mitra–tyAre kaho ke mahApAp to turat ja TALavun joIe, ke te mahApAp ubhun rAkho!
pahelo mitra– mahApAp pratham ja TALavun joIe.
bIjo mitra–tyAre kaho–ke mahApAp kayun chhe?
pahelo mitra–mithyAdarshan e mahApAp chhe.
bIjo mitra–te mithyAdarshan jene tame mahApAp kaho chho–tenAn bIjAn nAmo Apasho.
pahelo mitra– hA, tene svarUpanI aNasamajaN, agnAn, avidyA, chidAbhAs paN kahevAmAn Ave chhe.
bIjo mitra–tyAre kahe ke
pAp TALavun ja joIe evI jenI mAnyatA chhe teNe mithyAdarshanarUpI
mahApAp TALavun ja paDashe. jo jIv samyagdarshan pragaT kare to ja te TaLe e vAt sAchI ke kem?
pahelo mitra–hA, tem ja.
bIjo mitra–tyAre to samyagdarshanathI mithyAdarshanarUp mahApAp TaLe tem Avyun, ane samyagdarshan kaho ke
dharmanI sharUAt kaho–sAchI samajaN kaho, ke sAchun (samyak) gnAn kaho–te ekaj athavA sAthe rahenArAn chhe–
tethI em thayun ke shuddhabhAvanI sharUAt thatAn mahApAp TaLI shake chhe. kem te barAbar chhe?
pahelo mitra–hA, te tadran vyAjabI chhe. kharekhar puNyabhAvathI dharma nathI thato chhatAn puNyathI dharma thAy em
loko mAne chhe tenun kAraN shun?
bIjo mitra–sAmAnyarIte loko A bAbatamAn vichAr karatA nathI. nAnapaNathI pote sAmbhaLyun hoy chhe ke
puNyathI dharma thAy chhe, potAnA moTerAo pAsethI paN tevun ja sAmbhaLe chhe ane dharmasthAnakamAn paN moTe bhAge tevun
ja sambhaLAvavAmAn Ave chhe. e mAnyatA potAne anAdithI chAlI Ave chhe ane jem jem te ummare vadhato jAy
chhe tem tem tenun poShaN maLatun jAy chhe. tenun pariNAm e Ave chhe ke koI kahe ke puNyathI dharma thAy nahi–mahApAp
TaLe nahi to tene vijaLI jevo Anchako ‘Electric Shock’ lAge chhe. e sAmbhaLavA taraph aruchi thAy chhe. paN
taTastha thaI shAntapaNe tenAn badhAn paDakhAno vichAre to A vAt turat samajI jAy.
pahelo mitra–tyAre AnAn bIjAn paDakhAno shun chhe te ApaNe have pachhI charchashun.
bIjo mitra–bahu sArun. (banne chhuTA paDe chhe)
prasang bIjo
pahelo mitra–puNyanAn bIjAn paDakhAn chhe em tame kahetA hatA te Aje kaho.
bIjo mitra–juo puNyanA Ichchhak je vakhate puNya karavA mAge chhe te ja vakhate pAp bandhAy tem Ichchhe chhe?
pahelo mitra– je puNya karavA mAge te te ja vakhate pAp paN lAgatun hoy, to te puNyano Ichchhak kem
kahevAy? na ja kahevAy.
bIjo mitra–tame e svIkAryun; tyAre have tamane puchhun chhun ke–tame e to jANo chho ne ke shubhabhAv (puNya
bhAv) karatI vakhate, jene Atma svarUpanun gnAn na hoy tene sAchA gnAn–sAchI pratIti–sAchA chAritra ane vIrya
haNAy chhe ane tethI tenAn AvaraN bandhAy chhe ane te badhAn pAp chhe?