: chaitra 1 : 2001 Atmadharma : 89 :
vikAr karatAn karatAn avikArIpaNun pragaTe em kadI banI shake ja nahIn.
pahelo mitra:–dayA shabda jANIto chhe, tenA arthanI shun jarUr chhe. nAnun chhokarUn paN jANe chhe ke, ‘jIvanI
hinsA’ na karavI tenun nAm ‘dayA’ chhe.
bIjo mitra:–ThIk chhe. paN te vyAkhyA apUrNa chhe. potAnA jIvanI hinsA na karavI te dayA ke par jIvanI
hinsA na karavI te dayA te tame spaShTa karyun nathI, mATe spaShTa karo.
pahelo mitra–‘potAnA jIvanI hinsA’ vaLI kem thatI hashe? par jIvane mArI na nAkhavo te dayA evo
artha lokamAn prachalit chhe. tame kAI judo artha karavA mAgo chho?
bIjo mitra–hun shun artha karavA mAgun chhun te ahIn savAl ja nathI. bhAShaN kartA dayAno shun artha kahetA hatA
te savAl chhe.
pahelo mitra– bIjA jIvane mArI nAkhavo nahIn tene ‘dayA’ kahevI em bhAShaN kartA kahevA mAgatA hatA,
mATe hun te artha tamArI pAse spaShTatA thavA mATe mUkun chhun.
bIjo mitra– tyAre shun jIve pUrve anantavAr mahAvrat pALyAn tyAre jIv hinsA karI hatI?
pahelo mitra–em kem kahI shakAy?
jo atichAr vagaranAn mahAvrat pALe to ja jIv navamI graivayake devagatimAn jAy ane (AtmAnI
oLakhAN na hoy to) te pAchho sansAr chakramAn rakhaDe em men sAmbhaLyun chhe, mATe pUrve jIve tevI dayA to
anantavAr pALI chhe em mAnavun ja joIe.
bIjo mitra–jo tem chhe to te vakhate ‘dharma’ na thayo, to Aje kem thAy?
pahelo mitra–bhale dharma na thAy paN dharmanun anuShThAn to thAy ne? tene sadvyavahAr to kahevo ja paDashe
ne? paramArthane to prere chhe ne?
bIjo mitra:–par jIvane na mAravAno vikalpa uThavo te rAgabhAv chhe ke vItarAgabhAv chhe?
pahelo mitra:–te vikalpa to vItarAgane hoto nathI. are vItarAgane to shun paN apramatta sAdhune paN A
jIvane bachAvun to sArun evo vikalpa UThe nahIn; mATe vikalpa UThe chhe te rAgabhAv chhe em to kahyA vagar chAlI
shakatun nathI.
bIjo mitra:–tyAre have kaho ke–rAgabhAv te vItarAgabhAvane prere? jo thoDo rAg vItarAg bhAvane prere
to visheSh rAg vadhAre vItarAgabhAvane prere em kahevun paDe. mATe rAgabhAv te vItarAgabhAvane prere ja nahIn, mATe
te sadanuShThAn ke sadvyavahAr nathI.
pahelo mitra:–paN jo tame upar kahyun tem dayAne dharmamAn nahIn gaNo to pachhI loko dayA nahIn kare to?
bIjo mitra:–sAchun samaje ane nukasAn thAy em mAnavun yogya nathI. asatyathI lokone ke samAjane
lAbh thAy em mAnanArA tem kahI shake. kaShAy chakramAn puNyabhAv sampUrNa vItarAgatA na thAy tyAn sudhI jIvane
AvyA vagar kem rahe? samyagdraShTine puNyanI IchchhA na hovA chhatAn ghaNAn unchA puNya bandhAy chhe. mithyAdraShTine tevA
puNya hoy nahIn. agnAnI jIv anAdithI puNya pAp karatAn Ave chhe ane nahIn samaje tyAn sudhI te agnAn purvak
karyA karashe ane puNyane te dharma mAnashe. darek jIv potAne ThIk paDe tevI mAnyatA kare e niyam chhe. ej darek
jIvanI svatantratA siddha kare chhe. prarUpaNA asat kem karAy? sat prarUpaNAthI koI jIvane nukasAn thAy ja nahIn,
paN te sudhare.
pahelo mitra– vikArI jIvone puNyapApanun chakra chAlyA ja kare chhe em tame kahyun te barAbar samajAtun nathI,
mATe spaShTatA karo.
bIjo mitra– vikAr AtmAno svabhAv nathI, paN doSh chhe. vikAranun svarUp evun chhe ke te vadhAre ochho
thayA kare paN ek sarakho na rahe. jem koIne tAv Avyo hoy to koI vakhate 99 DIgrI hoy to koI vakhate
102 DIgrI hoy; paN tAv utarI jAy tyAre 98।। DIgrI (normal) ek sarakho rahe em vikAr paN ek
sarakho rahe nahIn. A siddhAntane anusarIne jIvane judI judI gati potAnA bhAvane anusarI ne prApta thAy chhe.
jyAre ghaNI kruratA kare tyAre nArakI thAy, jyAre puNyabhAv ghaNA kare tyAre svargamAn dev thAy, mAyA kare tyAre
tIryanch thAy, puNya pApanA madhyam pariNAm kare tyAre manuShya thAy. em puNya–pApanun chakra pharyA kare–eTale vikAr
to pharyA ja kare ane shubh–ashubh–(puNya–pAp) em kaShAy chakra agnAnIne chAlyA ja kare.
pahelo mitra:–tyAre shun jIvane anAdithI puNya–pAp ja AvaDe chhe?
bIjo mitra:–chhe to temaj–jo nigodamAn jIv puNyabhAv na kare to te