Atmadharma magazine - Ank 037
(Year 4 - Vir Nirvana Samvat 2473, A.D. 1947)
(English transliteration).

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kArataka 2473 7
nA svarUpapaNe nathI, agni pANInA svarUpapaNe nathI. Am hovAthI teo ek bIjAnun kAI ja karI shakatA nathI. jo
agnie pANIne unun karyun em mAnIe to uparanA badhA siddhAnt tUTI jAy arthAt dravyanA aguru–laghutva guNano
nAsh thAy, badhA guNono nAsh thAy ane dravyo ek bIjAmAn bhaLI jaIne dravyano paN nAsh thAy. mATe koI dravya
bIjA dravyanun kAI ja karI shakatun nathI.
suresh– vastumAn ‘nAstitva’ guN chhe em samajavAthI shun lAbh?
dInesh– vastunA svabhAvamAn je guN hoy te guN jANavAthI vastunun svarUp khyAlamAn Ave chhe ane tethI
samyagdarshan–samyaggnAn thAy chhe. nAstitvaguN eTale AtmA pararUpe nathI ane paradravyo AtmArUpe nathI. Am
samajatAn sharIramAn rog Ave to jANe chhe ke te roganI mArAmAn nAsti chhe, mArun gnAn rogathI judun chhe. mAro koI guN
sharIrarUpe nathI tethI sharIramAn rog AvavAthI mane nukasAn thatun nathI, temaj sharIr nirog hoy tene lIdhe mane lAbh
thato nathI. ane sharIranI mArAmAn nAsti hovAthI hun sharIranun kAI kAm karI shakun nahi. Am, nAstitvaguNanI
samajaN thatAn nirantar sva–paranA bhinnapaNAno khyAl rahe chhe ane tethI shAnti rahe chhe, sharIr, paisA vagere chAlyA
javAthI AtmAmAnthI kAI chAlyun jatun nathI, kemake gnAnasvarUp AtmAmAn sharIr paisA vagerenI nAsti chhe.
suresh– sAchA dev–guru–shAstra, puNyanA phaLano sanyog vagere koI padArthathI tamane lAbh thAy ke nahi?
dInesh– mane mArI sAchI samajaNathI lAbh thAy, parantu dev–guru–shAstra ke puNya vagere koIthI lAbh thAy
nahi kemake te badhA padArthono mArA AtmAmAn abhAv chhe, mArAmAn te koI nathI, je padArtho mArA AtmAmAn nathI te
padArtho mArA AtmAne kAI karI shake nahi.
suresh– parathI kAI lAbh–nukasAn thAy nahi–em samajavAthI shun lAbh?
dInesh– vastu svarUp ja e pramANe chhe mATe tem samajavAthI ja samyaggnAn thAy chhe. par dravyothI mane kAI
lAbh–nukasAn thatun nathI em samaje tyAre par dravyo pratye mohabuddhi ke ahankAr thato nathI, ane tethI rAg–dveSh paN
ghaTe chhe ane shAnti–sukh thAy chhe. par dravyanI oshiyALarUp parAdhInatA jIv mAnI beTho chhe te mAnyatA sAchun
samajatAn TaLI jAy chhe. potAnA doShathI ja potAne nukasAn thAy chhe em samaje to potAno doSh TALIne te nukasAn
TALe ane guNano lAbh thAy.
suresh– jo ek dravya bIjA dravyanun kAI na karatun hoy to A jaD dehanI vyavasthA koN kare chhe?
dInesh– jaD dehamAn anant rajakaN–paramANuo chhe, te darek svatantra dravya chhe. te darek paramANu dravyamAn
chhe.
suresh– ek mANas marI gayo, bIjo koI mANas tene snehathI khavarAvavA, pIvarAvavA tathA tenI sAthe
vAtachIt karavA ichchhe chhe, parantu te marelo mANas khAto nathI, pIto nathI temaj bolato nathI; tethI te bIjo mANas
manamAn dukhI thaI rahyo chhe, to tenun dukh maTADavAno shun upAy?
dInesh– sthuLapaNe joIe to te jIvane dukh TALavA mATe be upAy jaNAy chhe–(1) kAn to te jIvanI
ichchhA pramANe sAmun maDadun khAy, pIye ane vAtachIt kare to dukh TaLe, ane (2) kAn to tene khavarAvavA vagere
sambandhInI A jIvanI ichchhA dUr thAy to tenun dukh TaLe.
have visheSh vichAr karatAn spaShTa jaNAy chhe ke pahelo upAy to tadna ashakya chhe eTale ke kharekhar te upAy
ja nathI, kemake maDadun kadI paN khAvA pIvAnun nathI, tethI jyAn sudhI te maDadAnne maDadAn tarIke nahi jANe tyAn sudhI tenun
dukh kadI paN maTavAnun nathI. bIjo upAy svAdhIn hovAthI te upAy jIv karI shake chhe. parantu jyAn sudhI, ‘A maDadun
chhe ane te kadApi khAvA pIvAnun nathI’ em te jIvane vishvAs na Ave tyAn–