: poSh–mAh : 2475 : Atmadharma : 77 :
prashna:– Astik eTale shun?
uttar:– jeA AtmA ane paramAtmAnA astitvano yathArthasvarUpe svIkAr kare teone Astik kahevAy chhe.
prashna:– nAstik eTale shun?
uttar:– jeo AtmA ane paramAtmAnA astitvane yathArthasvarUpe na mAne, agar to viparItarUpe mAne
teo nAstik chhe.
prashna:– jainamat Astik chhe ke nAstik chhe?
uttar:– jainamat Astik chhe.
prashna:– shun jainamat Ishvaranun hovApaNun mAne chhe?
uttar:– hA, jainamatamAn ja Ishvaranun hovApaNun yathArthapaNe mAnavAmAn Avyun chhe.
prashna:– jainamatamAn Ishvarane kaI rIte mAnavAmAn Ave chhe?
uttar:– je AtmAoe potAnI gnAnashaktino sampUrNa vikAs karyo chhe ane rAg–dveShane sampUrNa dUr karyA chhe
te AtmAo Ishvar chhe, temane bhagavAn, jinadev, paramAtmA, siddha arihant, shuddhaAtmA vagere nAmathI paN
oLakhAy chhe.
prashna:– te Ishvar shun kare chhe?
uttar:– teo potAnA gnAnathI AkhA jagatane jANe chhe, ane potAnA AtmAnA Anandane bhogave chhe.
teo A jagatanun koI karatA nathI. teo jagatane jANanArA chhe paN karanArA nathI.
prashna:– teo A jagatanun karanArA kem nathI?
kemake A jagatanA badhAy padArtho potapotAnun kAm potapotAnI meLe karyA ja kare chhe, tene koI bIjA
karanAranI jarUr ja nathI. svabhAvathI ja darek padArtho kAryavALAn chhe.
uttar:– vaLI Ishvarane rAg–dveSh ja nathI. rAg–dveSh vinA kartApaNAnI vRutti hoy ja nahi. ‘hun Am karun ke
tem karun’ evI jyAn vRutti hoy tyAn rAg–dveSh ane AkuLatA hoy; jyAn AkuLatA hoy tyAn dukh hoy, ane
jene dukh hoy te Ishvar hoI shake nahi. Ishvarane dukh na hoy, rAg–dveSh na hoy.
jo Ishvar karanAr hoy to te A jagatamAn koI jIvane dukhI shA mATe kare? mArI shA mATe nAnkhe? pAp
shA mATe karAve? –mATe Ishvar te kAI karatA nathI, paN jIvone potAnI lAyakAt pramANe te te avasthAo svayam
thayA ja kare chhe. agnAn ane rAg–dveShathI jIvo potAnI meLe ja dukhI thAy chhe, Ishvar temane dukhI nathI karatA.
ane gnAn tathA vItarAgathI jIvo potAnI meLe ja sukhI thAy chhe, kAI Ishvar temane sukh nathI ApatA.
Ishvar to sampUrNa sukhI AtmA chhe, te kRutakRutya chhe. temane kAI upAdhi nathI. paranun karavAnI IchchhA te to
AkuLatA chhe, ne AkuLatA to dukh chhe. Ishvar ek nathI paN anant chhe.
prashna:– Ishvarane A sRuShTinA kartA nahi mAnavAthI to jaino nAstik Tharashe?
uttar:– bilakul nahi; ‘Ishvarane sRuShTinA kartA mAnavAthI ja AstikapaNun chhe ane Ishvarane sRuShTinA kartA
na mAnavAthI nAstikapaNun chhe’ –e mAnyatA sarvathA bhram chhe. AtmA ane paramAtmAnAn astitvane yathArthasvarUpe
mAnanAr Astik chhe. jainamatamAn ja AtmA ane paramAtmAnun vAstavik svarUp mAnavAmAn Avyun chhe tethI
kharekhar jainamat ja Astik chhe; ane jeo AtmA ane paramAtmA (–Ishvar) nun svarUp vAstavik rIte nathI
mAnatA teo kharI rIte nAstik chhe.
prashna:– A sRuShTinA kartA Ishvar chhe–em mAne te Astik chhe ke nAstik?
uttar:– pratham to Ishvar (paramAtmA) nA sAchA svarUpane temaNe mAnyun nahi; ane bIjun–jagatamAn anant jIv
ane jaD padArtho svatantra svayamsiddha anAdi–anant chhe, teno koI kartA nathI, te badhAn svatantra astitvavALAn chhe, chhatAn
‘Ishvare teone karyAn chhe’ em mAnIne teonA svatantra astitvano niShedh karyo, tethI kharekhar to teo nAstik chhe.
‘Ishvar’ arthAt ‘paramAtmA’ te sampUrNa sukhI AtmA (–jIv) chhe. te ja AtmA sampUrNa sukhI hoy ke je
AtmAne sampUrNa gnAn pragaT hoy. jo sampUrNa gnAn pragaT na hoy–kAI paN anshe agnAn hoy–to tyAn sudhI jIvane
sampUrNa sukh na hoy. Ishvarane sampUrNa gnAn chhe tedhI te sampUrNa sukhI chhe, je sampUrNa sukhI hoy tene jarA paN dukh na hoy.
rAg ke dveSh athavA kAI navun karavAnI vRutti te dukhanI nishAnI chhe. Ishvarane te rAg–dveSh hotA nathI.