Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 115.

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samAdhAnaH- .. nishchay aur usame.n vyavahAr sAthame.n gauN hotA hai. jo akelA vyavahAr grahaN karatA hai, usakA phal sa.nsAr hai. anAdi kAlase jIvane akelA grahaN kiyA hai. aur vah vyavahAr yathArtha nahI.n hai. akelI bAhya dR^iShTi, akelI kriyA, vah sab usane akelA grahaN kiyA hai. andar dravyako grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai. akelI bhed par dR^iShTi, akelI pariNAmo.n par dR^iShTi, svabhAv grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai. jo asal vastu bhUtArtha hai, jisame.nse svabhAv pragaT hotA hai, jo asal mUl svarUp hai use grahaN kiye binA muktikI paryAy pragaT nahI.n hotI. svAnubhUtikI dashA use grahaN kiye binA nahI.n hotI. isaliye dravyadR^iShTi mukhya hai. utanA to jIvane bahut bAr grahaN kiyA hai. charaNAnuyog Adi. .. mukhya ho use sa.nsArakA phal nahI.n AtA, use to vItarAgatA hotI hai. jisakI dR^iShTi dravya par ho (use). parantu jisakI dR^iShTi dravya par nahI.n hai, use sa.nsArakA phal hai.

mumukShuH- sAdi ananta kAl parya.nt paripUrNa shuddha paryAyo.nkA kAraN de aisA dravya dR^iShTime.n lenA hai ki niShkriy dravya?

samAdhAnaH- jisakI dR^iShTi dravya par hai,.. jisame.n paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n, aisA dravya. lakShyame.n vah lenA hai. parantu usakI dR^iShTi us vakta pariNAm par nahI.n hai. vah to sAmAnya par hai. usakI dR^iShTi sAmAnya par hai. parantu vah dravya aisA hai ki vah dravya pariNAmavAlA hai. sarvathA pariNAm rahit vah dravya nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- pariNAm nahI.n hai, parantu pariNAmakA kAraNabhUt shaktirUp sAmarthya lekar dravya baiThA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. pariNAm binAkA dravya nahI.n hai. ananta guN aur ananta paryAyakI shakti-sAmarthyavAlA jo dravya hai, use lakShyame.n lenA hai. usakI dR^iShTi pariNAm par nahI.n hai. usakI dR^iShTi niShkriy dravya par hai. parantu usame.n dravya sarvathA niShkriy nahI.n hai, pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. vah use j~nAname.n honA chAhiye. usakI dR^iShTi dravya pah honeke bAvajUd, use j~nAname.n honA chAhiye ki dravya pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. dravya akelA kUTastha dravya nahI.n hai. akelA kUTastha ho to yah sa.nsAr kaisA?uusakI mokShakI paryAy pragaT ho, pariNAm jo palaTate hai.n vah sab pariNAm hai. niShkriy dravya


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yAnI dravyame.n koI pariNAm hI nahI.n hote hai.n, aisA dravya nahI.n hai.

vItarAg ho jAy, kevalaj~nAn ho jAy to bhI dravya to pariNAmI rahatA hai. dravya to.. usame.n usake ananta guN pariNaman karate rahate hai.n. usakA j~nAn sAdiananta kAl pariNamatA rahatA hai. ek samayame.n lokAlokako jAnanevAlA j~nAn sab jAnatA rahatA hai. usakA AnandakA guN pariNamatA rahatA hai. pariNAmI svabhAv to pariNamatA hI rahatA hai. pariNAm binAkA dravya nahI.n hai. to sukhakA vedan kise? sukhakA vedan kise? j~nAnakA jAnanekA (kArya). guN svaya.n kArya na kare to guN kaisA? j~nAn jAnanekA kArya na kare to use j~nAn kaise kahe.n? Ananda AnandakA kArya na kare to Ananda kaise kahe.n? chetan chetanakA kArya na kare to use chetan kaise kahe.n?

usake jo lakShaN hai.n, usakA kArya-usakA pariNAm na ho to vah guN kaisA? vah paryAy kaisI? vah dravya kaisA? bilakul pariNAm binAkA dravya ho to. svAnubhUtikI paryAy vah bhI paryAy hai. ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate munirAj, vah bhI paryAy hai. usakI dR^iShTi dravya par hai. sAmAnya par dR^iShTi hai, parantu vedan to paryAyakA hotA hai. shreNi chaDhate hai.n, kevalaj~nAn hotA hai, vah sab pariNAm hai.n.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTike viShay jitanA hI dravya athavA to ekAnta utanI hI vastu hai, aisA nahI.n mAnatA.

samAdhAnaH- ananta guN aur ananta paryAyakA sAmarthyavAn dravya hai. paryAy usake lakShyame.n nahI.n hai, guNabhed lakShyame.n nahI.n hai, bhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n hai. sAmAnya par dR^iShTi hai. parantu dravya aisA sAmarthyavAn hai, aisA use j~nAn honA chAhiye. dR^iShTi usake astitva par hai. astitva parantu kaisA astitva hai? paripUrNa sAmarthyavAn, ananta guN eva.n ananta paryAyakA sAmarthya dravyame.n hai, ki jo dravya koI achi.ntya hai. usake pariNAm bhI achi.ntya hai aur dravyakI shaktiyA.N bhI achi.ntya hai.n. jo tarkame.n nahI.n A sakatA aisA usakA svabhAv hai.

ananta kAl vyatIt ho to bhI jo khatma nahI.n hotA. ananta avibhAg pratichChedarUp pariName to bhI usame.nse khatma nahI.n hotA. jo baDh nahI.n jAtA, jo kam nahI.n ho jAtA, aisA achi.ntya sAmarthyavAn, jo tarkame.n nahI.n AtA aisA usakA sAmarthya hai, aisA dravya hai. .. usake j~nAname.n grahaN hotA hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTikA viShayabhUt dravya sUkShma paDatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTikA viShay dravya hai. vah sAmAnya astitvako grahaN karatI hai. astvi vastu chetan hai, jo sat svarUp, chetanasvarUp, j~nAnasvarUp j~nAyak hai usakA astitva grahaN karatI hai. parantu vah j~nAyak kaisA hai? kUTastha hai aisA nahI.n, kArya karanevAlA j~nAyak hai. guNarUp pariNaman karanevAlA j~nAyak hai. dR^iShTi eva.n j~nAn dono.n sAth hI rahate hai.n.


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... apane kShetrame.n rahakar pUrNa lokAlokako jAnanevAlA, ek samayame.n utanA sAmarthya rakhatA hai. vaisA usakA j~nAn koI achi.ntya hai.

mumukShuH- ek or j~nAnakI bhI apAr mahimA gAyI jAtI hai aur ek or dR^iShTike viShayabhUt tattva, usakI bhI apAr mahimA (gAyI jAtI hai).

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTikA viShayabhUt jo dravya hai, us dravyame.n ananta sAmarthya bharA hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTi, vedAnta kahatA hai aise tattvakI aur j~nAn, jainadarshan kahatA hai aise tattvakA?

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi eva.n j~nAn dono.n sAthame.n hote hai.n. ekAnta dR^iShTi... yah vedAnta kahate hai.n aisA ekAnta to hai nahI.n. isaliye anekAnta (svarUp hai) ataH vedAnta nahI.n hai. parantu jaisI yathArtha vastu hai vaisI hI dR^iShTi aur jaisI vastu hai vaisA j~nAn, usakA nAm samyak mArga hai. samyak ekAnta aur samyak ... vedAntakI dR^iShTise ekAnta grahaN kare, usake sAth j~nAn hotA hI nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi aur j~nAnakA sumel hai. ekAnta shUnya yA ekAnta kUTastha, vah sab to ekAnta ho jAtA hai.

dR^iShTi svaya.nko grahaN kare. j~nAn sAthame.n hai vah dR^iShTi hI alag hai. vedAnta kahatA hai aisI dR^iShTi nahI.n hai. ... dR^iShTikA kArya alag hai. yah to samyak dR^iShTi hai. vah alag jAtakA kArya karatI hai. .. viShay kahate hai.n, bAkI to dR^iShTi eva.n j~nAnakA sumel honese usakA sab samyak kArya hai.

mumukShuH- paryAyake viShay parase gurudev kis prakAr dravyadR^iShTi par le jAnA chAhate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- dravya par dR^iShTi kara. jo paryAy hai usakI kartAbuddhi tU ChoD de. paradravyake sAth jo terI kartAbuddhi hai, vah kartAbuddhi ChoD, aisA gurudevako kahanA hai. jo paryAy pariNamanevAlI hai vah pariNamatI hai. tU kartAbuddhi ChoDa. paradravyakA kar sakatA hU.N, dUsareme.n pheraphAr kar sakatA hU.N aur dUsarekA svAmI banakar usakA pheraphAr karanA chAhe, usakI svAmItvatabuddhi aur kartAbuddhi toDakar tU tere dravya par dR^iShTi kar, tU terA jo dravya hai us par dR^iShTi kara.

jo paryAye.n pariNamatI hai.n, usakA tU kartA nahI.n hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n. kartAbuddhi ChuDAte hai.n. parantu kramabaddha hai vah puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. kramabaddhako puruShArthake sAth sambandha hotA hai. jo paryAy pariNamanevAlI ho vah pariNamatI hai, parantu jo svakI or svaya.n puruShArtha karatA hai, svabhAv or puruShArtha karatA hai, us puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha juDA hai. parantu jo svarUpakI prApti hotI hai, svabhAvakI, kevalaj~nAnakI prApti hotI hai usame.n puruShArtha sAthame.n juDA hai. puruShArtha binAkA akelA kramabaddha nahI.n hotA.

svaya.n dravya par dR^iShTi kare. tU kartAbuddhi ChoDa. to vah j~nAtA ho jAya. phir usakI


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jo paryAye.n pariNamanevAlI hotI hai.n, vah pariNamatI hai. parantu puruShArtha to svaya.nko dravyadR^iShTi karanekA puruShArtha sAthame.n hotA hai. dravyadR^iShTi to tujhe hI karanI hai. jaisA bananA hogA banegA, aisA karanese puruShArtha (nahI.n hotA). aise koI apaneAp dravyadR^iShTaShTi nahI.n ho jAtI. puruShArtha kare to dravyadR^iShTi hotI hai. isaliye kramabaddha, a.ntarakA jo kramabaddha hai vah puruShArthake sAth juDA huA hai. bAkI paradravyakA kartA to svaya.n ho nahI.n sakatA. vah kartAbuddhi ChuDAte haiai.n. tU puruShArtha kar to jo paryAye.n pariNamanevAlI hai.n vaise pariNamatI hai. vah to paryAy hai, parantu dravyadR^iShTise kartAbuddhi ChuDAte hai.n. gurudevako yah kahanA hai. tU kartAbuddhi ChoDa. parantu puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha juDA huA hai.

kramabaddha aisA nahI.n hai ki use puruShArthake sAth koI sambandha hI nahI.n hai. bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA vaisA hogA. to bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA hogA arthAt bhagavAnane jisakA puruShArtha dekhA hai. bhagavAnane puruShArtha binA apaneAp ho jAyagA aisA nahI.n dekhA hai. ataH jo AtmArthI hotA hai usakI dR^iShTi to puruShArtha par hotI hai. parantu parapadArtha orakI terI kartAbuddhi ChoD de. tU parakA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA, parantu tere dravya par dR^iShTi karake terI pariNatikI gati badalanI vah to puruShArthakI bAt hai. vah binA puruShArtha hotA nahI.n. gurudevane to bahut tarka kiye hai.n. gurudevane to anek prakArase usakA Ashay (spaShTa kiyA hai). puruShArtha to gurudev mukhya kahate the. gurudevane hI sab samajhAyA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev usame.n sAthame.n aisA lete hai.n ki kramabaddha kahanepar jo sarvaj~nane dekhA hai (vaise hogA), to sarvaj~nakI sattAkA svIkAr hai, vah kaise?

samAdhAnaH- sarvaj~nako mAnA. jo kramabaddha nahI.n mAnatA hai, vah sarvaj~nako nahI.n mAnatA. sarvaj~nako nahI.n mAnA, parantu svaya.n jo dravyadR^iShTi karatA hai, usane hI sarvaj~nako mAne hai.n. bhagavAnane jo dekhA hai vaisA hogA, bhagavAnane dekhA vaisA hogA, usakA jo svIkAr kare vah svaya.n j~nAtA ho jAya. aisA kahanA hai. sarvaj~nakA sambandha usake (sAth hai).

sarvaj~nako kisane mAnA hai? jo j~nAtA ho jAy usane sarvaj~nako mAnA hai. bhagavAnako mAnatA nahI.n hai, jo svaya.n (aisA mAnatA hai ki) mai.n kar sakatA hU.N, mujhase sab hotA hai. bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA (vaisA hogA). j~nAtAbuddhi-tU j~nAyak ho jA. j~nAyak ho jAy usIne bhagavAnakA svIkAr kiyA hai.

gurudev to dravyadR^iShTi parase kramabaddha kahate the. jisane dravyadR^iShTi kI usIne kramabaddha mAnA hai, dUsare kisIne mAnA hI nahI.n. jisane dravyadR^iShTi kI usane sarvaj~nako mAnA, jisane dravyadR^iShTi kI usane kramabaddha mAnA. dUsare jo bolate hai.n usane kramabaddha mAnA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- usakA artha yah huA na ki paradravyame.n terA puruShArtha chal nahI.n sakatA. AtmA apane darshan, j~nAn dvArA puruShArtha kar sakatA hai. svame.n kare, parame.n kar nahI.n sakatA.


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samAdhAnaH- parame.n svaya.n nahI.n kar sakatA hai, apanA puruShArtha svaya.n kar sakatA hai. svaya.nkA puruShArtha svaya.n karatA hai. usame.n sahajapane darshan, j~nAn, chAritrakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. svaya.n dravya par dR^iShTi kare. AtmArthIkI puruShArtha par hI dR^iShTi hotI hai. phir koI kahatA hai, puruShArtha honevAlA hogA to hogA. use hogA hI nahI.n, jise aisI bhAvanA ho use.

puruShArtha karanevAleko puruShArtha par dR^iShTi hotI hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. mai.n dravya par dR^iShTi karu.N, aisI usakI bhAvanA hotI hai. usIme.n kramabaddha hotA hai. usIme.n sahaj paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n. puruShArtha aur sahaj, dono.nkA sambandha hai. sirpha sahajase nahI.n hotA hai, puruShArtha sAthame.n sahaj juDA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- apane dravyakA puruShArtha kaise?

samAdhAnaH- apane dravyame.n puruShArtha... pariNati par or gayI hai, rAg-dveShakA svAmItva mAnA hai, svaya.n sa.nkalpa-vikalpa (karatA hai), vibhAv so mai.n, vibhAv merA svabhAv, aisA mAnA hai. dravyako svaya.n pahachAnatA hI nahI.n hai. isaliye dravyako pahachAne. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aise svaya.n apane dravya par dR^iShTi kare. apane dravyako pahachAne. anAdise dravyako kahA.N pahachAnA hai. isaliye dravya or use dR^iShTi badalanI hai.

yah chaitanya so mai.n hU.N aur yah vibhAv so mai.n nahI.n hU.N. yah chaitanya shuddhAtmA nirvikalpa tattva so mai.n hU.N. aisI usakI dR^iDh pratIti, us par usakI dR^iShTi sthApit karatA hai. pUrI pariNati palaT jAtI hai. dR^iShTi yAnI mAtra dekhanekI dR^iShTi aisA nahI.n, pUrI j~nAyakakI pariNati usakI palaT jAtI hai. use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai. dravya par dR^iShTi karanese usakI pUrI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ho jAtI hai. pUrI j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT ho jAtI hai, dravya par dR^iShTi karanese. dR^iShTi aur j~nAn dono.n sAthame.n (hote hai.n). A.nshik lInatA hotI hai. usakI j~nAyakakI dhArA-j~nAtAkI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai, dravya par dR^iShTi karanese. anAdise dravya par dR^iShTi hI kahA.N karatA hai.

guurudevane to anek prakArase chAro.n orase anek jAtakA gurudevane samajhAyA hai. nishchay aur vyavahAr, anek jAtakA spaShTa karake samajhAyA hai. gurudevakA to param upakAr hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai. usame.n use svAnubhUti hotI hai, dravya par dR^iShTi karanese. use puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai. svaya.n dravya hI hai, usame.n dR^iShTi kyA karanI? dR^iShTine dravyako pahachAnA kahA.N hai? anAdise dravyako pahachAnA nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi to par or hai.

mumukShuH- Apane do din pahale kahA thA ki puruShArtha karanekI bhAvanA bhI rahe aur kartR^itva Aye nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, puruShArthakI bhAvanA rahe use kartAbuddhi nahI.n hotI. mai.n kartA hokar


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kuCh nayA karatA hU.N, aisI kartAbuddhi use nahI.n hotI. puruShArthakI dhArA, apanI or puruShArtha chalatA hai, bhAvanA rahatI hai. kartAbuddhi use nahI.n hotI. usakI pariNati gati (svarUpakI or chalatI hai). jo yathArtha sat svarUpako pragaT karanA chAhatA hai, usame.n use jUThA AtA nahI.n. use yathArthatA (hotI hai).

mumukShuH- parakA akartA. apane jo svAbhAvik bhAv hai.n, darshan, j~nAn, chAritra un bhAvo.nkA kartA kahalAtA hai na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, apane svabhAvakA kartA hai. vibhAvakA akartA hai.

mumukShuH- AtmAme.n aisA koI akartA nAmakA koI guN athavA svabhAv ho sakatA hai ki jo apanI j~nAnaparyAy na kare, darshanaparyAy na kare, sahaj ho.

samAdhAnaH- dravya par dR^iShTi karanese mai.n apane svabhAvakA kartA hU.N, aisA vikalpa bhI nahI.n hotA. svaya.n ek sAmAnya par dR^iShTi rakhatA hai. usame.n kartA Adi kisI par usakI dR^iShTi nahI.n hai. ek sAmAnya tattva par usakI dR^iShTi sthApit kar detA hai. sahaj svabhAvase pariNati ho vaise dR^iShTi sthApit karatA hai. parantu vah sarvathA ekAnta nahI.n hai. svaya.n apane svabhAvakA kartA hai.

mai.n kartA hU.N, aisA bhed karake apane svabhAvame.n aisI dR^iShTi sthApit nahI.n karatA ki mere svabhAvakA kartA hU.N. ek sAmAnya par dR^iShTi rahatI hai. aisA bhed vikalpa nahI.n rahatA. parantu svaya.n svabhAvakA kartA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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