Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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ho jAy, vah vAstavamen karane jaisA hai.

vah kaise pragaT ho? usIkA abhyAs karane jaisA hai. svayammen ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta hokar svayam svayammense pragaT hotA hai. usamen hI use vishrAm mile, usImen use shAnti mile aisA hai. yadi anAdikI use thakAn lage to antaramen hI vishrAm (hai). Ananda, gnAn sab antaramen bharA hai. bAhar kahIn lene jAnA nahIn paDegA.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA kahakar kyA kahanA chAhate hain?

samAdhAna- anubhUti arthAt svayam chaitanya chaitanyarUp anubhavamen A rahA hai. arthAt usakA mUl svabhAv, jo usakI nidhi-use mUl svabhAvarUpakA khyAl nahIn hai. parantu chetanatA chetanatArUp anubhavamen AtI hai. anAdi kAl huA to vah jaD nahIn ho gayA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp anubhavamen A rahA hai. vah svayam lakShya kare to gnAn gnAn hI hai. gnAn miT nahIn giyA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp anubhavamen A rahA hai. usakA mUl svAnubhav jo usakA shuddha svabhAv hai, vah use khyAlamen nahIn hai. parantu usakI chetanatA to chetanArUp anubhavamen A rahI hai.

mumukShu- anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA yAnI gnAyak lenA hai?

samAdhAna- gnAyaka. pUrA gnAyak anubhUtirUp hI hai. anubhUti yAnI usake svabhAvakA mUl Ananda hai, aisA nahIn hai. parantu vah gnAyak gnAyakarUp hI rahA hai. pararUp nahIn huA hai. usakA asAdhAraN svabhAv jo gnAyakatA hai, vah gnAyakatA gnAyakatArUp rahA hai, pararUp nahIn huA hai. apanerUp anubhavamen A rahA hai. svayam apanemen hI rahA hai. bAhar vAstavik rUpase nahIn gayA hai.

mumukShu- agnAnI jIvonko bhI sadA gnAyak hI anubhavamen AtA hai?

samAdhAna- sadA gnAyak arthAt gnAyakatA, gnAyakarUp pariNaman nahIn hai. parantu usakA astitva gnAyak, gnAyakarUpakA astitva hai. usakA lakShya nahIn hai. lakShya bAhar jAtA hai. parantu chetanatA chetanatArUp hI sphurAyamAn hai. ye jaD to kuchh jAnatA nahIn. ye chetan chetanatArUp sphurAyamAn anubhavarUp hai.

mumukShu- sadA kAl?

samAdhAna- sadAke liye chaitanya chaitanyarUp hI hai. samatA, ramatA, UrdhvatA. usakA ramya svabhAv hai, gnAyak svabhAv hai, usakA vah sab svabhAv sphurAyamAn hai. lekin use pragaT anubhav-anubhUti nahIn hai. svabhAvarUp anubhavamen A rahA hai. use khyAl nahIn AtA hai. ... chetanatA chetanatArUp anubhUtirUp hai. mUl use apane svabhAvakI anubhUti nahIn hai. lakShyamen le to pragaT ho aisA hai.

mumukShu- agnAnIko bhI sadAkAl bhagavAn AtmA hI anubhavamen AtA hai?