mumukShu- vivekamen bhI aisA koI prakAr hogA ki usamen koI bAr viparItatA bhI Aye aur koI bAr yathArthatA ho, aisA hotA hai? ... sab bAbatamen vivek yathArtha hI Aye ki koI bAr vivek...
samAdhAna- ruchivAleko nA?
mumukShu- jI hAn, ruchivAleko.
samAdhAna- ruchivAleko aisA niyam nahIn hotA. samyak dhArA ho, gnAn samyakagnAn ho use to yathArtha hotA hai. ruchivAleko usakI ruchimen kuchh mandatA A jAy to alag ho jAya. ruchi yathArtha rahA kare to yathArtha AtA hai. usamen ruchimen pheraphAr ho to pheraphAr hotA hai.
mumukShu- jIv abhavI hai yA bhavya hai, usakA apaneko khyAl Aye?
samAdhAna- khyAl Aye. apanI jignAsA antaramen...
mumukShu- ...
samAdhAna- jise gaharAIse AtmAkI pariNati apanI or jAtI ho, svayamko AtmAkI hI ruchi lage to vah abhavi nahIn hotA.
mumukShu- ... ruchi jyAdA hotI hai isaliye aisI shankA bhI nahIn hotI na?
samAdhAna- nahIn. ruchi apanI or jise AtmAkI ho, vah abhavi nahIn hotA.
mumukShu- puruShArtha jyAdA ho to aisA nahIn hotA.
samAdhAna- jise AtmAkI or ruchi ho vah abhavi nahIn hotA. gurudevane itanA samajhAyA ki shubhAshubh bhAv bhI usakA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah jise antarase baiThe aur AtmAkI ruchi jise lage vah abhavi nahIn hotA.
mumukShu- bahut bAr .. baiThA hotA hai, parantu kahate hain na? ananta bAr jAkar AyA, parantu ruchi nahIn thI...
samAdhAna- lekin usane antarase bhagavAnako nahIn pahichAne hain. isaliye vApas AtA hai. bhagavAnako bAharase pahichAnA. bhagavAn samavasaraNamen baiThe hain, bhagavAnako aShTa prAtihArya hain, bhagavAn sinhAsanamen baiThe hain, bhagavAnako chhatra aur chamvar (hote hain). bhagavAnakA sharIr shAnta hai, aisA sab dekhA. lekin antaramen bhagavAn kyA kahate hain, vah nahIn pahichAnA. isaliye vApas AyA. bhagavAnakA svarUp nahIn pahichAnA hai. unake AtmAkA kyA svarUp hai, use nahIn pahichAnA hai, isaliye vApas AtA haiai.
mumukShu- andarase AtmA jAgRut huA ho aur ruchi ho to..?
samAdhAna- nahIn, vah abhavi nahIn hotA. abhavi jagatamen bahut kam hain. ananta bhavi aur ek abhavi. ananta bhavi aur ek abhavi. aise abhavi ananta hain, phir