samAdhAna- us jAtakI taiyArI, andarase bahumAn, bhaktivAleko ho jAtA hai. usamen kuchh Ashay hogA, usamen kuchh hit hogA, aisA artha grahaN karatA hai. aisA dikhatA honeke bAvajUd aisA kahate hain, usamen kuchh hit yA Ashay gurukA hai, is tarah svayam grahaN karatA hai. usamen kuchh mere hitake liye athavA kuchh Ashay hai, aisA artha grahaN karatA hai.
mumukShu- jain darshanamen guru-shiShyakA aisA hI mel hogA?
samAdhAna- aisA hI hotA hai. jinakI pariNati sAdhakatAkI or gayI, jo muktike mArga par guru pariNamate hain, unake jo kArya hai vah sab lAbharUp aur hitarUp hI hai. aise shiShyako arpaNatA A jAtI hai.
mumukShu- .. svachchhandamen jAtA hai?
samAdhAna- vah sab svachchhandamen jAtA hai. apanI kachAs hai.
mumukShu- tabatak tattva prApta nahIn kar sakatA?
samAdhAna- mushkil hai.
mumukShu- to bhI kAryakArI nahIn hotA?
samAdhAna- dhAraNAgnAnase nahIn lekin antar bahumAn aur ruchise Age baDhA jAtA hai. prayojanabhUt tattva grahaN kare, lekin andar bahumAn aur ruchi ho to vah Age baDhatA hai.
mumukShu- bAharamen gnAnIke prati bahumAn aur antaramen AtmAkI ruchi.
samAdhAna- gnAnIke prati bahumAn aur antaramen tattvakI ruchi. in dononkA sambandha hai.
mumukShu- ek ho vahAn avinAbhAvI dUsarA ho hI. AtmAkI ruchi ho use gnAnIke prati bahumAn hotA hI hai.
samAdhAna- antarakI ruchi ho use gnAnIke prati bahumAn hotA hI hai. aisA sambandha hai. antarakI ruchi ho aur guruke prati bahumAn na ho, aisA nahIn banatA. to usakI ruchimen kachAs hai. to apanI buddhi-kalpanAse sab nakkI karatA hai, usamen usakI ruchikI kachAs hai. jise prApta karanekI ruchi hai, usamen guuru kyA kahate hain? guru prati arpaNatA sAthamen hotI hI hai. main jAn nahIn sakatA hUn, main jis mArga par jA rahA hUn, vah mArga mujhe pragaT nahIn hai, jinhonne pragaT kiyA un par arpaNatA (hotI hai) aur ve kyA kahate hain? us prakArakA vinay aur bhakti usake hRudayamen hote hI hain. svayam jAn nahIn sakatA hai aur jinhonne jAnA hai unake prati bahumAn nahIn hai to usamen us jAtakI kachAs hai.
mumukShu- gurudevake shiShyommen to bahubhAg aisA hI lagatA hai ki dhAraNAgnAn to