Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 187.

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mumukShu- ... parantu mAtAjI! nimitta-naimittik sambandha atyanta ghaniShTa hai. ek vachanakI jo asar hotI hai, vah paDhanese vichAr nahIn AtA.

samAdhAna- parantu phir bhI svayam svatantra hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- svatantra hai.

mumukShu- kitanA, mAtAjI! ..

samAdhAna- gurudevane mArga batAyA hai. spaShTa karake gaye hain. karanekA svayamko hai.

mumukShu- ... kalyAN karanA hai aisI garaj nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- apanI utanI tIkhI garaj lage to hue binA rahe hI nahIn.

mumukShu- sabamen nij astitvakA jor lenA? mAtAjI!

samAdhAna- sabamen nij astitvakA jora. main gnAyak, main chaitanya, gnAyakakA astitva- apanA astitva. terA astitva tU grahaN kar to tU svayam jaisA hai vaisA pragaT hogA. terA astitva tU grahaN kar to terA jaisA svabhAv hai, vah svabhAv pragaTarUpase pariNamit ho jAyagA. terA astitva tUne grahaN nahIn kiyA hai isaliye vibhAvaparyAy pragaT hotI hai. terA astitva tU svayam grahaN kar to usamense svabhAvaparyAy pragaT hogI. sabamen apanA astitva grahaN karanA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! upayog bAhar jAy to kyA lenA? upayog to shubh-ashubhamen juDatA hai.

samAdhAna- upayog bAhar jAy to jisakI sahaj dashA hai use to apanI pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. ise to upayog bAhar jAy to andar aisA bhAv rahe ki karanekA kuchh alag hai aur ye bAhar jA rahA hai, ekatvabuddhi hotI hai. main to bhinna chaitanya hUn, aisI bhAvanA rakh sakatA hai. jisakI sahaj pariNati ho usakI to alag bAt hai. use to gnAyakakI dhArA nirantar chAlU rahatI hai. upayog bAhar jAy to bhedagnAn kShaN-kShaN, kShaN-kShaN use yAd nahIn karanA paDatA. ekabAr ekatva ho jAy aur phir yAd karanA paDe ki main bhinna hUn, aisA use nahIn karanA paDatA. use to jab bhI upayog