Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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samAdhAna- pAp to hai, hAn, baDA hai. sapta vyasanase bhI mithyAtva baDA pAp hai. yathArtha vastu svarUpako pahachAnatA nahIn. jUThI bhrAntimen paDA hai. vastu svarUpako TeDhA- meDhA, jaise-taise svIkAratA hai, isaliye baDA pAp hai. andar svarUpakA ghAt karatA hai, baDA pAp hai.

mumukShu- Ashcharya to isaliye lage ki bAharamen shikAr karatA ho..

samAdhAna- bAharase hinsA Adi karatA ho to vah pApI dikhatA hai ki ye pAp kar rahA hai, aisA dikhe. andaramen jo ho rahA hai, vah use dikhAI nahIn detA. isaliye vah pAp nahIn dikhatA. bAharamen sthUl dikhatA hai na, isaliye vah pAp dikhAI detA hai. ... baDA pAp hai. yathArtha nahIn hai, vastu svarUpako viparIt rUpase samajhatA hai, svarUpakA ghAt ho rahA hai isaliye baDA pAp hai. (aisA kahA) isaliye vyasan karanemen koI bAdhA nahIn hai, aisA artha nahIn hai. lekin vah vyasan mithyAtvake sAth hI sambandha rakhatA hai. isaliye vyasan to mumukShuko bhI nahIn hote.

mumukShu- nishchay aur vyavahAr, donon sAthamen hote hain yA alag-alag hote hain?

samAdhAna- donon sAthamen hote hain. yathArtha nishchay aur yathArtha vyavahAr, donon sAthamen hote hain. bAkI ye jo vyavahAr kahA jAtA hai, jo dharmakA vyavahAr kahA jAtA hai, dharmakA vyavahArase svIkAr kiyA, vah vyavahAr to nishchayapUrvakakA vyavahAr nahIn hai. vah to vyavahAramAtra vyavahAr hai. use vyavahAr nAm diyA jAtA hai. bAkI antaramen yathArtha nishchay-vyavahAr sAthamen hoete hain. gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT ho, vahAn paryAyakA vyavahAr, shuddha paryAyake sAth dev-guru-shAstrake pariNAm jo shubhabhAv Adi hote hain. antaramen jo pariNatimen hai, vah nishchay-vyavahAr sAthamen hote hain. shuddha pariNatikA vyavahAra. usakI bhUmikA anusAr shubhabhAv hote hain, vah sab usake sAth yathArtha rUpase hote hain. bAkI anAdikA jo vyavahAr hai, vah rUDhigatarUpase vyavahAr hotA hai. akelA vyavahAr hotA hai. vyavahArAbhAs kahate hain.

mumukShu- shubhabhAvako vyavahAr nAm mAtra (kahA).

samAdhAna- nAmamAtra hai. shubhabhAvako vyavahAr (kahA). usakI yathArthapane sAdhakadashA pragaT huyI ho use kahate hain. bAkI vyavahAr nAm diyA jAtA hai. lekin jab tak nahIn hotA hai tab tak ashuddha bhAvase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hain. jignAsAkI bhUmikAmen bhI shubhabhAv hote hain. jignAsA ho, jise sachche dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA ho, use bhI sapta vyasan nahIn hote. AtmAkI jignAsAke sAth dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN kare. AtmAko kaise pahachAnA jAye? guru kyA kahate hain? dev kyA kahate hain? sabakA Ashay samajhanA chAhiye. anAdikA anajAnA mArga dev-guru-shAstrake binA samajhamen nahIn AtA. aur aisA