samAdhAna- usake parichayase jAne, usakI vANIse gnAt ho. use gnAt hotA hai. usakI vANI kaisI AtI hai? usakA hRuday kaisA hai? usakA amuk parichay hotA hai isaliye jAn sakate hain ki isakI pariNati bhAvalingarUp hai yA mAtra dravya hai. kriyAkI or kitanA vajan jAy, shubhabhAvakI or kitanA jAy, antarakI bhedagnAnakI pariNati, usakI vANI kaisI AtI hai, us parase hRudayako pahachAnA jAtA hai. usakA parichay ho to pakaD sakate haiainn. .. usake parichayamen Ave, usakA bolanA, vANI parase pakaD sakate hain ki kahAn-kahAn usakI vANI gaharAImen jAtI hai yA sthUlamen aTak gayA hai yA bAhya kriyAmen thoDA karake, mahAvrat dhAraN karake usamen santoSh mAnA hai, yA antar pariNati hai, bhedagnAnakI dhArA kis jAtakI hai, vah sab, vah bole us parase khyAlamen A jAtA hai.
mumukShu- bahin! ham gurudevakA pravachan paDhen yA sune, gurudevako pratyakSha sunA hai. usamen AtmAkA svabhAv gnAn, vah to bArambAr AtA hai. kartRutva vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. parantu aisA khyAlamen lete hain to bhI AtmAnubhav nahIn hotA hai. to usamen kyA truTi (rahatI hogI)?
samAdhAna- AtmAkA gnAnasvabhAv (hai). parantu vah gnAnasvabhAv mAtra buddhise, vichArase grahaN kiyA hotA hai. antar usakA jo gnAnasvabhAv hai, svabhAvamen-se svabhAv grahaN kare to ho. kartA yAnI parakA kartA nahIn hai, vibhAv usakA svabhAv nahIn hai. parantu svayam apane svabhAvarUp pariNaman kar sakatA hai. parantu vah gnAnamAtra AtmA aisA Aye, parantu gnAnako gnAnarUp pahachAnanA, vah antar gaharAImen jAkar pahachAnanA chAhiye. mAtra buddhise jAne to usamen antar pariNati nahIn hotI. antar pariNati kare to yathArtha andarase dashA pragaT hotI hai.
aisI pariNati ki yah gnAn hai so main hUn aur yah vibhAv bhinna aur yah gnAn mAne gnAyaka. mAtra jAne-jAne vah gnAn (aise nahIn), parantu usake pIchhe pUrA dravya hai. us dravyako antaramen jAkar grahaN kare to ho. vah AtA hai na? gnAnake jo jAnanekA kiraN dikhatA hai, vah gnAnamAtra bhed-bhed dikhAI detA hai utanA hI main nahIn hUn, apitu pUrA gnAyak, jAnanevAlA tattva hai vah jAnanevAlA tattva hai so main hUn. aise dravyakonantaramen jAkar pahachAne to hotA hai. mAtra buddhise... jo dravya hai, us dravyake mUlamen-se use pahachAnanA chAhiye.
mumukShu- AtmAkA svabhAv to gnAn hai, aisA AtA hai. to phir gnAn jAnatA hai, vah bhI vyAjabI bAt hai, to phir usamen...?
samAdhAna- jAne vah vyAjabI bAt hai, parantu vah kis jAtakA jAnatA hai?