Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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amRut vANI (bhAg-5)

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samAdhAna- bhale vyavahAramen liyA ho, parantu dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai.

mumukShu- nayI paryAy hotI hai vah sabhI pUrva paryAyake sanskAr lekar AtI hai? to sanskAr kAmamen Ate hain, aisA kah sakate hain? yA sanskAr sAntvanake liye shabda istamAl kiyA jAtA hai ki tU yah karegA to tujhe yah sanskAr Daleenge.

samAdhAna- nahIn, sAntvanake liye nahIn hai. mUl vastu to shuddha hai. phir bhI vah sanskAr bhI ek vyavahAr hai sahI. vah koI Upar-Uparase jUTh nahIn kahanemen nahIn AtA hai.

mumukShu- sanskArako kisamen DAlenge, vyavahAramen yA nishchayamen?

samAdhAna- vah vyavahAr hai, vah bhI vyavahAr hai. parantu vah vyavahAr aisA vyavahAr nahIn hai ki jUThA vyavahAr hai. aisA vyavahAr nahIn hai. jo pratyabhignAn kahanemen AtA hai. jo AtmA ananta kAlase janma-maraN karatA A rahA hai, to bhI use pUrvajanmake sanskArase use is bhavamen kuchh khyAlamen bhI AtA hai, to pUrvajanmake sanskAr hai. sanskAr koI jUThI vastu nahIn hai, vyavahAr honeke bAvajUda.

mumukShu- usI prakAr ham lagan shabdakA bhI artha kar sakate hain, lagan ek paryAy bhale dUsarI paryAyase bhinna hotI hai...

samAdhAna- hAn, bhinna hotI hai..

mumukShu- phir bhI laganakI sAtatyatA chAlU rahatI hai. Akhiramen AtmagnAn aur kevalagnAn prApta karavAtI hai. aisA le sakate hain na?

samAdhAna- AtmagnAn, kevalagnAn, hAn. lagan jo antaramen lagatI hai vah kAraN banatI hai. vyavahAr kAraN hai parantu ekadam lagan antarakI gaharI ho, andarakI gaharI lagan ho ki mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye to use vyavahAr kAraN banatA hai. kArya bhale mUl vastumen-se paryAy pragaT hotI hai, paryAyakA kAraN dravya hai to bhI usamen sanskArakA kAraN banatA hai. vyavahAr kAraN kahate hain.

mumukShu- gurudevane bhI bahut bAr kahA hai ki sanskAr lekar jAyagA. is janmamen bhale tujhe prApti nahIn hogI, to kAlAntaramen bhI..

samAdhAna- kAlAntaramen sanskAr sAthamen lekar jAtA hai.

mumukShu- tab mujhe yahI prashna ho rahA thA ki ek paryAyako dUsarI paryAyake sAth sambandha nahIn hai. phir bhI sanskAr chAlU rah sakate hain, is prakAr vyavahArake kAraNa.

samAdhAna- hAn, sanskAr chAlU rah sakate hain. jis jAtake is bhavamen usane sanskAr DAle hon, antim maraNake samay usake jo bhAv ho, vah jahAn dUsare bhavamen jAtA hai vahAn us jAtake sphUrit hote hain. antaramen jo jAtake antaramen gnAnake, darshanake, chAritrake, ArAdhanAke, jignAsAke, laganake jo-jo bhAv usake AtmAmen ghUle hue hon, vah dUsare