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samAdhAna- barason pahale yahAn kuchh nahIn thA. sab mandir (bane). jab svAdhyAy mandir huA tab vahAn kuchh nahIn thA. gurudevake pratApase sab vahAn ho gayA.
mumukShu- gurudev kahate the ki, yahAn to bhains ghUmatI thI.
samAdhAna- hIrAbhAIkI dukAnase lekar yahAn tak aisA lage ki jangalamen hai. jangalamen hain aisA lage.
mumukShu- vairAgya evan udAsInatA..
samAdhAna- ek hI hai. lagabhag ek hI hai. vairAgya arthAt parase bhinna hokar apanemen (Aye), udAsInatA bhI vahI hai. udAs ho jAye, usamen bhI vahI hai.
mumukShu- upashamapanA?
samAdhAna- upashamamen kaShAyakI upashamatA, usamen thoDA pharka hai. juDanA nahIn, kaShAyake vegamen bahanA nahIn. shAnt pariNAm rakhe, kahIn bahe nahIn, vah upashama. tIvra kaShAy, jo mumukShukI bhUmikAko shobhate nahIn aise kaShAyommen bah nahIn jAtA, vah upashamabhAva. .. usakI kyA bAt!
... (jin) pratimA jin sArakhI kahanemen AtI hai. usamen bhAvanA vAleko ek hI dikhAI detA hai, pratimA aur bhagavAnamen kuchh pharka nahIn dikhatA. bhAvase dekhe use bhagavAnakI pratimAmen pharka nahIn dikhatA. jin pratimA jin sArakhI, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. alpa bhav sthiti jAkI, so hI jin pratimA paramAnai, jin sArakhI, aisA AtA hai.
jagatamen ratna bhI bhagavAnarUp pariNamit ho rahe hain. bhagavAn jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain to kudaratamen shAshvat pratimAen hain. shAshvat mandir evan shAshvat pratimAen. merumen, nandishvaramen, Urdhva, madhya, adholokamen chAron or hain.
mumukShu- ratna aisI pratimArUp pariNamate hain?
samAdhAna- pratimArUp ratna pariNamate hain. sAdhAraN patthar nahIn, balki uchcha ratnonke paramANurUp aise skandh pratimArUp pariNamit ho gaye hain. sab shAstramen AtA hai.
mumukShu- kRutrim nahIn, ratna hI aise pariNamit hue hain.
samAdhAna- ye pudagal ratnarUp pariNamit hokar sab pratimArUp hokar, usake AkAr pratimA mAnon sAkShAt bhagavAn hI baiThe hain, ekamAtra vANI nahIn, utanA. samavasaraNamen baiThe hon aise hUbahU. pAnchasau-pAnchasau dhanuShakI (pratimAen). kisIne nahIn banAyA, apane Apa. kudarat mAno kahatI hai ki jagatamen bhagavAn sarvotkRuShTa hai.
mumukShu- nandishvar dvip dekhA tab Ashcharya hotA thA. shAshvat bhagavAn kisaprakAr honge? Aj spaShTa huA, Aj spaShTa huA.