Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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mAtAjI! usakA thoDA adhik vistAr karake..

samAdhAna- vah to sahaj aise A gayA. Dor to dravyadRuShTike hAthamen hI hai. paryAy svatantra pariNamatI hai, parantu use dravyakA AdhAr hai aur dravyadRuShTikA AdhAr hai. dRuShTike AdhAr binA paryAy svatantra (aise nahIn pariNamatI). jo vibhAvakI or jisakI dRuShTi hai, ekatvabuddhikI or, usakI sabhI paryAy vaise hI pariNamatI hai, vibhAvakI ora. aur jisakI dRuShTi svabhAvakI or gayI, jisakI dRuShTiko dravyakA avalamban huA, usakI sabhI paryAyen svabhAvakI or pariNamatI hai. isaliye dravyadRuShTi hai vahI puruShArthakI Dor usake hAth lagI hai. dravyadRuShTi-dravyakA dRuShTimen Alamban liyA, vahI usakA puruShArtha hai. vah puruShArtha aur phir use lInatAkA bhI puruShArtha hai. dRuShTikA bal hai aur lInatA bhI apanI or (hai). yAnI sabhI paryAy, dRuShTike Alambanase sabhI paryAy svabhAvakI or pariNamatI hain. amuk adhurApan hai, utanA vibhAv hotA hai. bAkI use dRuShTike Alambanase sabhI paryAyen hotI hain. usakI paryAyako kramabaddha kahate hain, lekin usake sAth puruShArtha sAthamen hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ApakI charchAmen pAnch bAr sunI, Apane karIb 10-15 bAr...

samAdhAna- kahate the ki dRuShTi badal gayI, use hI kramabaddha lAgU paDatA hai. koI unhen pUchhate the to aisA kahate the, tU gnAyak ho jA. dRuShTike sAth kramabaddha A gayA. aisA kahate the. dRuShTikA AlambanakA kahate the usamen sAthamen puruShArtha A hI jAtA hai. gurudevane kartRutva chhuDAneko tU kartA nahIn hai, aisA kahate the. lekin tere puruShArthakI Dor to tere hAthamen hI hai. puruShArtha binAkA kramabaddha, aise akelA kramabaddha lenese AtmArthIko kuchh karanA nahIn (rahatA). AtmAkA prayojan jise usakI najar puruShArthakI or hI rahanI chAhiye. kramabaddha (anusAr) hotA hai aisA lenese AtmArthakA jo prayojan hai, mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai, usakI bhAvanA... (kramabaddha) par vajan detA rahe, use apanI or muDanA nahIn rahatA. kartAbuddhi chhuDAneko (kahate hain) tU kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. jaise paradravyake pariNAm tU badal nahIn sakatA aur antaramen tere puruShArthakI Dor pragaT huyI, paryAy pariNamati hai, aisA kahanA hai. svabhAvakI ora. dRuShTikI Dor usake hAthamen hI rahI hai. us prakArase paryAy pariNamatI hai.

mumukShu- Dor dravyake hAthamen hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, Dor dravyake hAthamen hai. jaise ThIk paDe vaise paryAy pariNamatI rahe, usamen main kyA karun? aisA usamen nahIn hai.

mumukShu- bahut sundar bAt AyI.

samAdhAna- dravyadRuShTike Alamban binA vah vaise nahIn pariNamatI. svabhAvakI or