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kShati hai. ruchimen pharka hai aisA nahIn, parantu apanI ruchikI mandatA hai. bAhar kitanA rukA hai? bAharamen kitanI ruchi jAtI hai?
mumukShu- usamen samayakA savAl hai? jyAdA vakta usamen rukatA hai aur isamen kam samay rukatA hai.
samAdhAna- samay-se bhI antarakI kShati hai, samayakI nahIn.
mumukShu- jyAdA samay rukatA hai aisA?
samAdhAna- samay jyAdA aisA nahIn, antaramen-se palaTatA nahIn hai. samay nahIn.
mumukShu- ruchikI mandatA to hai. aisI ichchhA to rakhate hain ki samyagdarshan ho. nitAntarUp-se, nahIn to itane sAl nikAlekA kyA prayojan kyA? parantu prayojanamen kuchh aisI kShati lagatI hai ki vah dUr honI chAhiye, to tvarA-se kAm kar sake.
samAdhAna- kShati ho to hI apane puruShArthakI mandatA rahatI hai.
mumukShu- svayamko khojanA chAhiye.
samAdhAna- apanI kShati apaneko (mAlUm paDe).
mumukShu- sab ghoTAlA hai.
samAdhAna- svayamko samajhanA hai. usamen koI use khojakar nahIn de detA. kAraN yathArtha ho to kArya yathArtha Ave. parantu kaisA kAraN pragaT huA, vah svayamko khojanA hai. sanmukhatA Adi sab svayamko khojanA hai.
mumukShu- gurudev-se bhI abhI prabhAvanAkA kAl kuchh visheSh tvarA-se aur visheSh vikasIt ho rahA ho, aisA lagatA hai.
samAdhAna- tIrthankarakA dravya thA isaliye unakA puNya aur us jAtakA pratAp kArya karatA hI rahatA hai. vartamAnamen bhI kare aur bhaviShyamen bhI karatA rahe. gurudevane jo vANI barasAyI hai, jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai vah jIvonke hRudayamen samAyI hai. isaliye sabako gurudev par bhakti hai, ata gurudevako kyA arpaN karen, aisI bhAvanA sabako hotI hai. gurudevake upakArake badalamen kyA karanA, aisI bhAvanA sabako hotI hai.
mumukShu- us din Ap jab shilAnyAs karate the, pATiyA lagAte the, tab aisA huA ki bahinashrI kyA karate hain!
samAdhAna- ... pAnI rahegA tabatak gurudevakI vANI rahegI. upadeshakhI jamAvaT chhoTe-se lekar baDonko aisI kI hai aur kisIko aisI ruchi utpanna ho gayI. isaliye gurudevako kyA arpaN karen? unake upakArakA badalA kaise chUkAye? isaliye sab unakA hI pratAp hai. gurudevake charaNommen kyA den, aisA sabako ho jAtA hai.
mumukShu- aisA hI hai, aisA hI hai. bAt sachchI hai. hamako bahut bAr lajjA