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andaramen-se palaTe binA nahIn rahatA. vaise gahare sanskAr DAle to vah palaTe binA nahIn rahatA.
mumukShu- vahAn phir kAlakA koI kAraN nahIn rahatA. kabhI bhI ho. kisakI jaldI ho, kisIko vilamb ho, parantu hotA jarUr hai.
samAdhAna- hotA jarUr hai.
mumukShu- usamen jyAdA-se jyAdA amuk kAl lagatA hai, aisA hai?
samAdhAna- jise ruchi huyI, gaharI ruchi huyI, use kAlakA mAp nahIn hai. lekin usakA kAl maryAdit ho jAtA hai, use ananta kAl to nahIn lagatA. use maryAdAmen A jAtA hai. gahare sanskAr ho to A jAtA hai.
mumukShu- bhUl hotI ho to hamen kisake pAs hamArI bhUl pakaDavAne jAnA, yah samajhamen nahIn AtA.
samAdhAna- gurudevane to spaShTa karake batAyA hai, karanekA svayamko bAkI rah jAtA hai.
mumukShu- kyonki gnAnIke binA gnAn gamya nahIn hai. gnAniyonkI bhenT huyI, tIrthankarakI huyI to bhI ye paristhiti kyon rah gayI?
samAdhAna- svayamne gnAnIko, guruko pahichAnA nahIn hai. sab mile, bhagavAnako pahachAnA nahIn. svayamne bAhar-se pahachAnA hai. antar koI apUrva rIt-se ye alag hai, kuchh alag kahate hain, us prakAr-se pIchhAnA nahIn.
ye to pancham kAlamen gurudev padhAre aur kuchh alag prakAr-se bAt kahI, isaliye sabako khyAl AyA ki ye kuchh alag kahate hain. bAkI svayamne sthUl dRuShTi-se har bAr pahachAnA hai. bhagavAn samavasaraNamen baiThe ho, bhagavAnakI vANI (chhUTatI hai), bhagavAnake ye atishay hai, bhagavAnake pAs indra Ate hain, aise bAhar-se sab grahaN kiyA hai. bhagavAnakA AtmA kyA hai aur ve kyA kahate hain? vah kuchh grahaN nahIn kiyA.
mumukShu- bAhya vibhUti dekhanemen aTak gayA.
samAdhAna- bAhya vibhUti dekhI.
samAdhAna- manuShyommen aisI shakti nahIn hotI, devamen to sab shakti hai, sab kShetramen jAnekI. devamen bhI vahI karate hain. bhagavAnake pAs jAte hain. har jagah jA sakatA hai. gurudev bhagavAn-bhagavAn karate the. sAkShAt bhagavAnake pAs jA sake, samavasaraNamen divyadhvani sunane. vahAn shAshvat mandir hain, svargamen mandirommen pUjA, dharma charchA Adi sab hotA hai, devalokamen svAdhyAyAdi sab hotA hai. yahAn gurudev AjIvan koI mahApuruSh banakar rahe, vahAn devamen bhI vahI karate hain. kShetra-se dUr hue hain, bAkI gurudev to virAjate hain svargamen. yahAn bahut sAl virAje hain.