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mumukShu- itanA unakA hotA hai ki alaukik!
samAdhAna- hAn, alaukik hai. lekin Apako adhik samajhanA ho to malADamen svAdhyAy chalatA hai, gurudevake shAstrakA svAdhyAy chalatA hai, gurudevake pravachanakA svAdhyAy chalatA hai. yah shAstra-mUl shAstra samayasAr chalatA hai, pravachanasAr chalatA hai. vahAn sab chalatA hai. vahAn malADamen kaun vAnchan karate hain?
mumukShu- chImanalAl ThAkarashI.
samAdhAna- chImanalAl ThAkarashI. unhen Ap kuchh pUchhenge to prashnake uttar bhI denge.
mumukShu- vahAn hameshA vAnchan Adi chalatA hai.
samAdhAna- hAn, vAnchan chalatA hai. vahAn bhagavAnakA mandir hai, vahAn pUjA hotI hai, vAnchan chalatA hai, sab hotA hai.
mumukShu- kitanA bhaTakate hain, lekin kuchh milatA nahIn. koI gnAnI (nahIn milate). kitanI jagah gaI. koI kahatA hai, yahAn hai, yahAn jAo, vahAn hai, vahAn jAo.
samAdhAna- vahAn mumukShu hain. gurudevake pravachan jinhonne sune hain, gurudevakA parichay jinhonne kiyA hai, vaise log vahAn hain. Ap vahAn (raho) to Apako jyAdA khyAl AyegA. Apako kyA chalatA hai, dUsarA to kaise mAlUm paDe? Apako kyA hai vah Apako hI nakkI karanA paDe.
... chalatI ho, aur koI-koI bAr use svAnubhUti hotI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA chalatI hai.
mumukShu- aisA lagatA hai ki svAnubhUti aisI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA chale to Ap jaise kahate ho vaisA sahaj chalatA hI rahe.
samAdhAna- .. pUrA dravya A jAtA hai. ek-ek guN par dRuShTi nahIn, akhaNDa abhed par dRuShTi hotI hai.
mumukShu- aisA hI. bhed nahIn, akhaNDa abheda. kyonki andaramen vaisI hI vastusthiti andaramen hai.
samAdhAna- ..jaise hiremen chamak hotI hai. vaise vastu ek hai, lekin usamen paryAy (hain). gnAn gnAnakA kArya lAye, chAritra chAritrakA kArya lAye, vah sab kArya lAte hain. lekin abhI gnAn, darshan, chAritra pragaT nahIn hue hain, isaliye gnAn, darshan, chAritra vibhAvamen vartate hain. svabhAv pragaT ho to gnAn, darshan, chAritra svabhAvakI or pragaT hote hain, usakA kArya AtA hai. lekin bhed par usakI dRuShTi nahIn hotI. gnAnamen sab hotA hai. jAnatA hai, lekin dRuShTi to ek dravya par, abhed par hotI hai.
mumukShu- dononkI sandhike bIch pragnAchhainI paTakanese, kahA hai na? ki dononkI sandhimen...