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samAdhAna- gnAyakako grahaN karanekI or (jAnA hai). vikalpa nahIn karanekA hai, parantu gnAyakakI or jAnA hai. pariNatikA palaTA honA chAhiye.
mumukShu- vah kaise?
samAdhAna- andar jignAsA kare, andar laganI lagI ho to andar gaye binA rahe hI nahIn. svayamko kahIn chain nahIn paDe, bAhar kahIn ruche nahIn, kahIn rukanA achchhA lage nahIn. kShaN-kShaNamen mujhe gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? mujhe gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? utanI laganI lage to vah palaTA khAya. antaramense laganI laganI chAhiye, to palaTA khAya. utanI laganI lagI nahIn hai, utanI gnAyakakI mahimA nahIn AtI hai. bAharase utanI tuchchhatA nahIn lagatI hai. to palaTA kahAnse ho? andar svayamko laganA chAhiye.
.. prApta kar lete hain. nahIn prApta karate hain unhen der lagatI hai. shivabhUti kuchh nahIn jAnate the. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. chhilakA alag, dAl alaga. aisA karake, merA AtmA bhinna aur yah vibhAv bhinna. aisA karake antaramen Utar gaye. antaramense pragaT kiyA. jyAdA nahIn jAnate the to bhI.
mumukShu- hamen vishvAs AtA hai vah to antarase hI AtA hai. abhI jitane vichAr Ate hain, vah antarase hI Ate hain, aisA nahIn hai ki Upar-Uparase Ate hain.
samAdhAna- vah to antarase Aye, vAstavamen to andar svabhAvamense AnA chAhiye. yah satya hai, aisA svayamko antarase AtA ho, parantu svabhAv grahaN karake Aye vah alag bAt hai. vah alag bAt hai.
mumukShu- kisIko kShaNamen A jAtA hai, kisIko nahIn AtA hai, usamen ...?
samAdhAna- usamen svayamke puruShArthakI mandatA hai. kisIko jaldI hotA hai, kisIko der lagatI hai. svayamkI mandatA hai. karma to nimitta mAtra hai, vah kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. na ho tabatak bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai? gurudevane kyA kahA hai? shAstramen kyA AtA hai? usakA vichAr, usakA vAnchan, usakA svAdhyAy bArambAr karatA rahe aur gnAyak kaise pahachAnun, usakI bArambAr jignAs kare aur bArambAr laganI lagAye.
mumukShu- jabatak andaramen ruchi nahIn lagatI, hamen to vahI lagatA hai. bAhar bahut ruchi ho jAtI hai, bAhya bhAvommen. to aisA lagatA hai ki andaramen nahIn AtI. hamAre manamen aisA lagatA hai.
samAdhAna- antarakI ruchi ho, vah bAharamen utanA tanmay nahIn hotA hai. jise antarakI lagI ho, gnAyakakI mahimA, use vibhAvase to kuchh had tak vairAgya A jAy, yah sab tuchchha hai, sArabhUt nahIn hai. sArabhUt to AtmA hai. utanA tanmay ho jAy to antaramense kam ho jAy, vah to sIdhI bAt hai. bAharamen utanA tanmay ho jAy