mumukShu- mAtAjI! gnAnaguNako Upar-Uparase pahachAnatA hai, gaharAIse nahIn pahachAnatA hai. to kRupA karake gaharAIse kis tarah pahachAne?
samAdhAna- gaharAIse pahachAnanekA svayam prayatna kare. yah gnAn hai vah koI vastukA hai. binA vastuke gnAnaguN nahIn hai. gnAn koI sat padArthakA guN hai. aisA vichAr kare to pahachAne. gnAn yAnI mAtra jAnatA hai, is tarah pahachAnatA hai. parako jAne vah jAnanevAlA gnAnaguN hai, is tarah pahachAnatA hai. parantu vah gnAn hai vah koI padArthakA guN hai. padArtha binAkA vah guN nahIn hai. is tarah andar svayam jignAsA laganI lagAye to pahachAn sake aisA hai. parantu usakI laganI hI nahIn lagAtA.
mumukShu- shrImadajIne aisA kahA hai ki, jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe, vah kaise? to kis apekShAse? bAt barAbar kahate hain. parantu jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe. deh shok rog shok dukh mRutyu, dehano svabhAv jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe, vah to samajhamen AtA hai. parantu jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamen jaNAy chhe.
samAdhAna- jIvakI utpatti?
mumukShu- hAn, aisA shabdaprayog kiyA hai.
samAdhAna- andar svabhAv hai, sab jIvamen jAnanemen AtA hai. parantu mUl vastukI utpatti nahIn (hotI). usakI paryAyamen pheraphAr ho, vah jIvamen jAnanemen Ate hain. usakI paryAyen palaTatI hain, vah jIvamen gnAt hotI hai. vastukI utpatti to hotI nahIn. usamen ho to apekShAse likhA hogA. paryAyamen pheraphAr hote hain. vah usamen jAnanemen Ate hain.
vibhAv paryAy ho rahI hai, vibhAvamense svabhAv ho, svabhAvakI paryAy hotI hai, sab jIvamen jAnanemen AtI hai. use jAnanevAlA jIv hai. dravya-guN-paryAy sabako jAnanevAlA jIv hai. vah svayam sab jAnatA hai. svayam svayamko jAnatA hai, svayam par anya padAthAko jAne. aisA usakA gnAnaguN koI asAdhAraN hai. gnAn aisI anantAse bharA hai ki usamen sab gnAt hotA hai. gnAnakA svabhAv aisA hai.
ananta kAl gayA to bhI usakA gnAnasvabhAv to vaisAkA vaisA hai. vah jAn sake aisA hai. yah sharIr bhinna, yah vibhAv svabhAv apanA nahIn hai, svayam gnAyak hai. svayam