kahe. mare hueko mAratA hUn...
samAdhAna- merA doSh hai, aisA mAnatA hai. merI asthiratA hai ki main chhUT nahIn sakatA hUn. mujhe rAjakA rAg hai. yadi abhI yah rAj chhoD dUn to sab chhUT jAya. main isamen juDatA hUn, yah merA svarUp nahIn hai. mujhe juDanA paDatA hai.
mumukShu- ... kitanI aisI kShaN AtI hai ki jab ... tattvase dUr jAnA paDatA hai.
samAdhAna- tattvase dUr nahIn jAtA hai. use asthiratA hai. tattvase dUr nahIn jAtA. koI use aisA kahe ki terA gnAyak AtmA bhinna nahIn hai, sharIr aur AtmA ek hai, aisA tU bol, to aisA vah nahIn kahate. AkAsh-pAtAl ek hA jAy bhI nahIn kahe.
mumukShu- samakit honeke bAd vah bhUl jAtA hai?
samAdhAna- nahIn, bhUlatA nahIn.
mumukShu- to samayasAramen hI AtA hai.
samAdhAna- puruShArthakI mandatA ho to bhUl jAy, vah to bhUl gayA kahanemen AtA hai. parantu samyagdarshanamen puruShArthakI dhArA hotI hai vah apratihat dhArAse bhUlatA nahIn, bhUlatA nahIn. chyUt ho jAy usakI (bAt alag hai).
mumukShu- samyagdarshan sthir rahatA hai?
samAdhAna- sthir rahatA hai, koI chyUt ho jAy usakI bAt nahIn hai. vah to chyUt ho jAtA hai. koI chyUt ho jAya.
mumukShu- samayasAramen ek aisI gAthA hai...
samAdhAna- .. hAn, vah hai. ... dhArAse uThA huA.. usamen koI chyUt ho jAtA hai.
mumukShu- adhiShThAn ek hai, vah mujhe nahIn baiThatA nahIn thA. vedAntamen ek adhiShThAn kahate hain. chha dravya paDhA to ek adhiShThAn...? vah nahIn baiThA.
samAdhAna- .. koI hotA hI nahIn, svayam hI hai svatantra.
mumukShu- ... svatantra hai. koI..
samAdhAna- svayam svayamkA AdhAr hai. koI kisIkA adhiShThAn nahIn hai. svayam svatantra hai, jaisA karanA ho.
mumukShu- isIlIye jIvako svatantra banAnA hai. abhI jo sanyogIbhAvamen hai, use svatantra banAnA hai.
samAdhAna- vibhAvaparyAyamen svatantra hai. jahAn svayamkI pariNati karanI ho, vahAn svatantra