mumukShu- Apako bhI gurudevakA virah ho gayA. mAtAjIko to bahut virah...
samAdhAna- ve to mahApuruSh the.
mumukShu- bahin-bahin karate the.
samAdhAna- unakA to adabhut thA! dravya hI alag thA, tIrthankarakA dravya thA. main to unakA dAs hUn. ve to mahApuruSh! upayog to rakhe, gurudevako sab mAlUm to hotA hai. gurudev upayog rakhe. unhen gnAnamen to sab AtA hai, parantu yahAn AnekA bhAv.... panchamakAl hai isaliye abhI AnA bahut mushkil hai.
samavasaraN hotA hai, vahAn dev sAkShAt jAte hain. yahAn panchamakAlamen devonkA Agaman aisA ho gayA hai. panchamakAlamen dev bahut Ate nahIn. aur ve to nispRuh the. unhen andarase sab dharmakA prApta ho aisA prashasta bhAv thA, parantu ve to nirlep the. ichchhA kare to AnekI shakti to hai, parantu aise pratibandhavAle ve the hI kahAn? unhen bhAv thA ki sab dharma prApta kare. parantu vaisA unhen pratibandha, vikalpa nahIn thA. ve svayam hI kahate the, koI kisIkA kar nahIn sakatA.
mumukShu- ek bAr padhAre to chamatkAr ho jAya.
samAdhAna- shAsanake prashasta rAg... svayam hI kahate the, koI kisIkA kar nahIn sakatA. aisA bhAv Aye to AnekI shakti to hai.
mumukShu- upayog rakhate hI nahIn honge, vahIn sab khajAnA ho to yahAn...?
samAdhAna- bhagavAn mil gaye unhen to. bhagavAn, bhagavAn karate the, bhagavAn mil gaye.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! dhyAnamen to baiThate hain, gnAyakakA Ananda kaisA...?
samAdhAna- gnAyakakI pratIt karanI chAhiye. vichAr karake ... vichAranA chAhiye to dhyAnamen Aye na?
mumukShu- vichAr karate hain us samay to pratItamen AtA hai, phir vah bAt nikal jAtI hai.
samAdhAna- anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai. vichAramen baiThe to bAr-bAr usakI pratIti karanA, bAr-bAr dRuDh karanA chAhiye, puna abhyAs karanA. anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye bAr-bAr karanA chAhiye. thakanA nahIn. ekatvabuuddhi to nirantar chalatI hai, to isako bAr-bAr dRuDh karanA chAhiye.
mumukShu- dUsare kAmamen jab upayog jAtA hai to vah bAt nikal jAtI hai.
samAdhAna- to bAr-bAr karanA. bArambAr karanA, bArambAr vichAr karanA, bArambAr karanA. tattvakA vichAr, svAdhyAy (karanA). gnAyak mahimAvant hai, bArambAr viShay karanA