bhAgommen hotA hai vah yathArtha hai. vah koI pratyakSha dekhanemen nahIn AtA. chhadmastha usako pratyakSha nahIn dekh sakatA. yuktise, vichArase (nakkI hotA hai). jo yukti, dalIlamen AtA hai, svAnubhavamen AtA hai vah kah sakate hain. bAkI sab pratyakSha gnAnIke gnAnamen jo AyA vah yathArtha hai.
mumukShu- bahinashrI! ye jo kArmAN skandha rahate hain, jo janma-janmAntar ke liye Ayubandha, nAm, gotra, antarAy bandha vagairah karate hain, kyA yah bandha karaneke bAdamen haT jAte hain yA AtmAke sAth punarjanmake sAth TrAvel karate hain?
samAdhAna- punarjanmake sAthamen vah Ate hain.
mumukShu- kArmAN skandha?
samAdhAna- hAn, kArmAN Ate hain. kArmAN sharIr sAthamen jAtA hai. jo punarjanmamen jAtA hai, usamen kArmAN sharIr sAthamen jAtA hai.
mumukShu- aisA nahIn hai, bahinashrI! ki jo hamAre yahAmpar jaise shAtA vedanIy vagairahake kArmAN skandha hain, usIko puNya nAm diyA gayA ho aur yahI anya mat-matAntaramen darshan shAstramen taijas sharIrake nAmase kahA gayA ho?
samAdhAna- kArmAN sharIr dUsarA hai, taijas sharIr dUsarA hai.
mumukShu- kArmAN sharIrakA ek bhAg, 148mense ek taijas bandha hotA hai. sab taijas sharIr..
samAdhAna- kArmAN karmakA sharIra. aur taijas sharIr to dUsarA hotA hai. audArik, taijas, vraikiyak vah sharIr nahIn. kArmANasharIr to karma,... vah pUrva bhavamen jAtA hai.
mumukShu- ek aur (prashna hai), bahinashrI! jaise Aj hamalog mAnate hain ki videhakShetramen tIrthankar bhagavAn vidyamAn hain. to Aj videhakShetramen tIrthankar bhagavAnakI vidyamAnatAko lekarake ek sAdhAraN shabdommen kaise kahA jA sakatA hai ki vahAnkI bhAShA, vahAnkI bhAvanA, vahAnke vichAr, vahAnke rahaneke taur-tarIke vagairahake bAremen kahIn Apako kuchh anveShaNamen milA ho, aisA Apake anubhavamen AyA ho, yA Apane paDhakar usapar adhik manan karake aur kuchh nishchit dhAraNA banAyI ho ki videhakShetramen vartamAnamen is prakArakI sthiti chal rahI hai.
samAdhAna- videhakShetramen bhagavAn sAkShAt virAjate hain, unakI divyadhvani chhUTatI hai, samavasaraNamen bhagavAn virAjate hain. vItarAg ho gaye hain to bhI vANI chhUTatI hai. videhakShetramen ek dharma chalatA hai, dUsarA dharma nahIn hai. bhagavAn jo dharma kahate hain, vah ek hI dharma chalatA hai. is panchamakAlamen dUsare, dUsare, dUsare dharma hain, aise dharma nahIn hai. ek dharma-jain dharma chalatA hai, dUsarA koI dharma nahIn chalatA hai.