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mumukShu- mAtAjI! main gnAnasvabhAvI hUn, to hamArA yah vibhAv pariNaman kyon hotA hai?
samAdhAna- anAdikA ho rahA hai. gnAnasvabhAv to hai. anAdikA ho to rahA hai, vibhAvakA vedan to hotA hai. aur jab ho rahA hai, use toDanA kaise? yah karanA hai, vah upAy karanA hai. ho to rahA hai anAdikA.
AtmA shuddha svabhAv dravyase hai aur paryAyamen anAdise ho rahA hai. jisako usakI AkulatA lage, dukh lage to toDanekA upAy karanA. ho to rahA hai, kyon ho rahA hai kyA? ho rahA hai. vah to dikhanemen AtA hai. paryAyamen karma aur AtmA anAdise aise hI chale Ate hain, anAdi sambandhase. dravyamen to shuddhatA hai, paryAyamen aisA ho rahA hai.
mumukShu- bhagavAn kundakundasvAmI jab sImandhar bhagavAnake pAs gaye, us vakta kyA ApakI AtmA vahAn thI?
samAdhAna- sab log bahut pUchhane Ate hain to mujhe bahut pravRutti ho jAtI hai.
mumukShu- hamArA to kabhI.. bAharase Aye hain ham loga.
samAdhAna- gurudevane bahut batAyA hai, gurudevane to bahut batAyA hai. gurudev kahate the, ham sab the, aisA gurudev kahate the. gurudev svayam kahate the. ham sab the, aisA kahate the.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- aisA usako rAg thA. samyagdRuShTi the, lekin unako vItarAgatA nahIn huyI thI. vItarAgatA pUrNa nahIn huyI. chAritradashA, svarUpamen lInatA aisI visheSh nahIn huyI thI. rAg thA nA, rAg thA isaliye rAgake kAraN aisA huA. rAgake kAraNase aisA hotA hai. bhItaramen jAnate hain, bhedagnAn hai, yah sab bhinna hai. yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, aisA jAnatA hai, to bhI rAg aisA kArya karatA hai ki rAgake kAraNase lakShmaNakA rAg nahIn chhUTatA hai, isaliye usako lekar phirate haiain. main isako chhoD nahIn sakatA. lakShmaNako main kaise chhoD dUn? vah rAg nahIn chhoD sakate. bhItaramen mAnate bhI the ki