Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 136.

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amRut vANI (bhAg-4)
(prashamamUrti pUjya bahenashrI champAbahen kI
AdhyAtmik tattvacharchA)
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mumukShu- mAtAjI! ... aur barAbar baiThatA nahIn thA, kyonki donon virodhAbhAsI dikhatA thA. darshanase milAn karanekA AtA nahIn thA. kyonki yah gnAnaguNakI paryAy, ... usake avibhAg pratichchhed, yA guN-paryAy svatantrapane pariName, phir bhI dravyake Ashray binA paryAy hotI hai... ek apekShAse to dravya hI kartA, karma,..

samAdhAna- hAn, dravya hI kartA-kartA (hai). dravyake Ashrayase (hotI hai). ... kahIn khInchA jAtA ho, aise vajan denemen AtA hai. apekShA to yahAn gurudev jo kahate the, vah sabako barasonse khyAlamen hai ki gurudev nishchay mukhya rakhakar vyavahAr kahate the yah sabane grahaN kiyA hai. parantu gurudev vyavahArako nikAl deneko nahIn kahate the. barasonse sunA hai isaliye us prakArakA sabako khyAl hai. ... usakI pakkaD nahIn karanI, vaise paryAyako nikAl nahIn denA tathApi paryAy par dRuShTi nahIn karanI. aise gurudevakA Ashay vah thA.

... to svayam us bAt par bhI uchhal paDate aur nishchayakI bAt Aye to usamen bhI. isaliye gurudevake (pravachanamen) dononkI sandhi hai. unakA us prakArakA vartan, pariNaman hI aisA thA. niShedh kare, use karanA kyA bAkI rahA? dRuShTi usakI nahIn hotI, parantu bhAvanA Aye, sab bIchamen Aye. us par vajan nahIn denA hai.