kare, koI kyA kare, kyon kare, vah us par nirbhar karatA hai.
mumukShu- jo vyantar dev ginate hain... ve log kaise jAte hain?
samAdhAna- sachche dev to arihant, guru aur shAstra. arihantake sivA koI devako mAne nahIn. sachche sudev, suguru aur sushAstrake sivAy kisIko (mAne nahIn). kuguru, kudevako mAnanevAle to... vah to tAranevAle nahIn hai. .. har jagah ghumate rahe aise dev hI thoDe hI hote haiain. apane bAp-dAdAko aise mAn lenA ki vah sab dev hote hain aur usako ichchhA rahA karatI hai,... sab bAp-dAdA aise hI hote honge? koI achchhI gati, UnchI gatimen nahIn jAte honge, aisA kyon mAn lenA? sab vaise hI dev hote hain. usakA bhav vaisA hI hotA hai aisA kaise mAn lenA? .. vah kyon nahIn ho? aur aise suradhan hI hote honge sab? devalokake devase kisIkA uddhAr nahIn hotA. vah to bhagavAn arihantadevase uddhAr hotA hai, bhagavAnakI vANIse uddhAr hotA hai. devalokake devase kisIkA uddhAr nahIn hotA. devalokake dev to bhagavAnakI sevA, pUjA karane Ate hain. vah dev kisIkA uddhAr nahIn karate, us devase kisIkA uddhAr nahIn hotA. vah kisIko tArate nahIn. ... jUThI bhramaNA aur mAnyatAen hain.
mumukShu- jo .. vah kaun hai?
samAdhAna- vah sab bhramaNA hai.
mumukShu- .. Ate hain, vah koI bhI AtmA hogA.
mumukShu- pahale devalokamen yah aur dUsare devalokamen is prakArase vahAn AyuShya hai. vahAn is prakArase...
samAdhAna- bhale hI ho, jo bhI ho. apane to AtmAkA karanA hai na. devalokamen to devakI Ruddhi hai to usamen sab hotA hai. devako sab hotA hai. devonkI Ruddhi jyAdA hotI hai. devonko khAnA-pInA nahIn hai. unako to Uch-nIch jAtike dev hote hain.
mumukShu- to baDe devonkI chhoTe dev sevA kare.
samAdhAna- hAn, aisA hotA hai. chhoTe dev, baDe dev aisA hotA hai.
mumukShu- ..vartamAnamen pancham kAl chalatA hai.
samAdhAna- mokSha bhale na ho, parantu AtmAko pahichAnA jA sakatA hai.
mumukShu- AtmAko pahichAnA aisA kab khyAlamen Aye?
samAdhAna- vah to svayam apanA jAn sakatA hai. svayam apanA jAn sakatA hai.
mumukShu- panchamakAlamen jab tak kevalagnAn na hotA, tab tak mokSha nahIn hotA. to panchamakAlamen kevalagnAn nahIn hotA, kyonki panchamakAl chalatA hai. isaliye panchamakAlamen kabhI kevalagnAn nahIn hotA.