300 bhī kām karatā hai aur dr̥uṣhṭi bhī nirvikalpapane anubhūtimenn kām karatī hai. isaliye pramāṇagnān... use anubhūti huyī use shuddhanay kahanemen ātā hai. shuddha paryāy pragaṭ huyī, shuddhatākā viṣhay grahaṇ kiyā, us rūp pariṇati hai, isaliye shuddhanay kahanemen ātā hai, shuddha anubhūti hai isaliye. aur use pramāṇ bhī kahate haĩn. kevalagnān pragaṭ huā use pramāṇ bhī kahanemen ātā hai. kevalagnān pūrṇa ho gayā. dravya aur paryāy sab.. paryāy pūrṇa huyī, kevalagnānako pramāṇ kahanemen ātā hai. aur sāthamen nay to hai hī, parantu nirvikalpa.. anubhūtimen bhī nay aur pramāṇ sāthamen hote haĩn. savikalpa dhārāmen jitanī pariṇati pragaṭ huī, usamen bhī nay aur pramāṇ sāth hote haĩn.
mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! jab anubhav ho tabhī lāgū paḍe na, sachchā pramāṇagnān to.
samādhānaḥ- anubhav ho tabhī lāgū paḍatā hai. savikalpa, usakā upayog bāhar hai to bhī usakā gnān kām karatā hai. jitanī dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi hai aur gnān sāthamen, ye vibhāv hote hain vah main nahīn hūn̐, main chaitanyarūp hū̃n. yah main nahīn hūn̐, main chaitanyarūp hū̃n. aisī jātakī bhedagnānakī dhārā chalatī rahatī hai. savikalpatāmen jitanī bhūmikā chauthī, pān̐chavī, chhaṭhṭhī, sātavīṅko gnān jānatā hai. jānanekā kārya to usakā sāth hī hai. dravyako bhī jānatā hai, paryāyako bhī jānatā hai. jānanekā kām sāth hī hai.
mumukṣhuḥ- vah anubhavake bādakā pramāṇagnān huā na?
samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah anubhav honeke bādakā.
mumukṣhuḥ- usake pahale to pramāṇagnān nahīn kah sakate na?
samādhānaḥ- sachchā pramāṇagnān (nahīn hai).
mumukṣhuḥ- lāgū nahīn paḍatā hai na?
samādhānaḥ- nahī̃n. anubhavake bād hī sachamūchamen nay aur pramāṇ tab lāgū paḍatā hai. anubhavake bād bhale savikalpamen ho yā nirvikalpamen ho, anubhavake bād, tabhī sachchā pramāṇ aur sachchī nay lāgū paḍatī hai. usake pahale to sab nishchay, vichār karatā hai. pramāṇakī sachchī pariṇati yā nayakī sachchī pariṇati usake pahale pragaṭ nahīn huyī hai. mātra vah abhyās karatā hai.
.. nay aur pramāṇ sāthamen hī hote haĩn. aur nirvikalpamen to vikalpa rahit nirvikalpapane hai.
mumukṣhuḥ- nay aur pramāṇase rahit hai, nirvikalpa anubhavake kālamẽn.
samādhānaḥ- hān̐, nirvikalpa anubhavake kālamẽn. use apekṣhā-se shāstramen shuddhanay kaho, shuddha anubhūti kaho, use pramāṇ kaho. vah sab kahanemen ātā hai. vah nirvikalparūp hai. gurudavane mahā upakār kiyā hai. chāron or-se spaṣhṭa kar-karake batāyā hai.