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mumukShuH- kabhI to aisA lagatA hai mAno shuShkatA A jAtI hai, hR^iday bhIgA huA nahI.n rahakarake. usame.n tattvakI samajhakA kyA doSh hogA?
samAdhAnaH- shuShkatA to apane kAraNase (hotI hai). bAkI apanA hR^iday bhIgA huA rahe, apane svabhAvakI mahimA Aye, apane svabhAvame.n hI sarvasva hai. yah sab bAharakA hai vah to tuchCha hai. svabhAvakI mahimA to... mahimAse bharA svabhAv hai. aisI mahimA Aye to aisA nahI.n hotA, shuShkatA Aye hI nahI.n, usakA hR^iday bhIgA huA rahe. apanA svabhAv, vahI adabhut aur AdaraNIy hai. shuShkatAko palaT denA ki mahimAva.nt merA svabhAv hai. ye bAhya vastu kuCh mahimAva.nt nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- samajh kI ho, lekin andar kuCh AcharaN karanekA AtA nahI.n.
samAdhAnaH- vah AcharaN hI hai. svabhAvakI or jise sachchI samajh ho, vah a.ntarame.n utanA lIn hotA hI nahI.n. use jo vibhAv pariNAm sa.nkalpa-vikalpa Aye usame.n usakI tanmayatA nahI.n hotI. ras TUT hI jAtA hai. usakA hR^iday bhIgA huA rahatA hai. use kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatA. svabhAvake sivA kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatA. use bAhya padAthAme.n, khAne-pIneme.n har jagahase ras uD jAtA hai. a.ntarase niras ho jAtA hai, svabhAvakI mahimA lagatI hai.
mumukShuH- ananta.. ananta.. ananta kAl gayA to bhI mokSha prApta nahI.n huA. to aisA lagatA hai ki ananta-ananta kAl mokSha prApta karaneke liye lagatA hogA?
samAdhAnaH- ananta kAlase mokSha nahI.n huA usakA kAraN svaya.n kahI.n-kahI.n aTakA hai. mAtra kriyAme.n dharma mAn liyA, thoDA kuCh kar liyA, kuCh shubhabhAv kar liyA, kuCh dayA, dAn thoDA-thoDA kar liyA to mAno dharma ho gayA. aisA mAn liyA. isaliye mokSha nahI.n huA. kahI.n-kahI.n bAhar aTak gayA. tyAg kiyA, munipanA liyA parantu bAharame.n mAno.n mai.nne bahut kiyA, mai.nne tyAg kiyA, bahut kiyA. aisA mAn-mAnakar aTakA hai. a.ntarame.n jo svabhAv hai, usako grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai. apanA svabhAv grahaN kare to ananta kAl lage hI nahI.n.
ananta kAl laganekA kAraN kriyAo.nme.n, bAhar shubhabhAvo.nme.n sthit rahA. svabhAvako