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grahaN karaneme.n svaya.n puruShArtha kare to usakI dishA badalatI hai. bAharakA grahaN karaneme.n use sahaj-sahaj grahaN karatA hai. usame.n use upAdhi nahI.n lagatI, bojh nahI.n lagatA. kuCh nahI.n lagatA. parantu a.ntarame.n jAy to use upAdhi-bojh lagatA hai. gurudevane vANI barasAkar saral kar diyA hai. parantu puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA paDatA hai.
mumukShuH- a.ntar puruShArtha ... bAhar-se bhinna-bhinna vyaktiko pahachAn sakate hai.n, aise AtmAko bhI pahachAn sakatA hai?
samAdhAnaH- AtmAko pahachAn sakatA hai. svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n hI hai. j~nAn j~nAnako pahichAn sakatA hai. aisA sUkShma bhed karatA hai.
mumukShuH- bAharame.n to vah khyAlame.n AtA hai, Ap kahate ho vaisA. sAdhAraN to...
samAdhAnaH- kyA bhed hai vah bol nahI.n pAtA. usakI A.Nkhe.n alag hai, chaherA alag hai, yah alag hai, dikhaneme.n sab ek samAn lagatA hai. to bhI kShayopashamaj~nAn bhed to karatA hI hai ki yah manuShya yah hai aur yah manuShya yah hai. jyAdA logo.nme.n kShayopasham j~nAn bhed kar detA hai. itanA sUkShma hokar bhI bhed karatA hai. usI tarah apanI or muDe to svaya.nko pahachAn sake, parantu muDatA hI nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- aisA apaneko spaShTa pahachAn sakatA hai?
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, spaShTa pahachAn sakatA hai. usame.n use bAharame.n sha.nkA bhI nahI.n paDatI. koI use tarka kare ki ye manuShya vah nahI.n hai. to bhI kahatA hai, nA, vahI hai. binA vichAr kiye, tarka binA nakkI karatA hai ki yah vahI manuShya hai. dUsare log kahe to bhI jUThA hI hai.
vaise svaya.nko nakkI kar sakatA hai ki yah mai.n hI hU.N, yahI merA astitva hai. aise tarka binA niHsha.nkapane svaya.nko grahaN kar sakatA hai ki yahI mai.n hU.N. anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. ye rAgAdi mai.n nahI.n hU.N, yahI mai.n hU.N. niHsha.nkapane grahaN kar sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- adabhut bAt karate ho, parantu kitanI bAr aisA prayatna karane-se ho aur kyA hotA hai... pIChalI bAr kahA thA ki bhAvabhAsan honeke bAd vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAn-se use TikAye rakhanA chAhiye. to use TikAye rakhaneme.n aisA vichAr AtA hai ki pariNatime.n rasakA vedan to ho jAtA hai, tattvakA ras vedaname.n AtA hai, us vakta mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N, aisA abhyAs karate rahanA usakA nAm TikanA hai? vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAn (use kahate hai.n)?
samAdhAnaH- vikalpame.n use aisA gADh abhyAs ho gayA hai, isaliye use bIchame.n vikalpa Ate hI rahate hai.n. parantu a.ntarame.n jo apanA guN hai, us guN dvArA pUre j~nAyakako grahaN karanA ki yah j~nAn jitanA, vartamAn jAne utanA hI mai.n nahI.n hU.N, parantu mai.n pUrNa