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samAdhAna- .. nishchay aur usamen vyavahAr sAthamen gauN hotA hai. jo akelA vyavahAr grahaN karatA hai, usakA phal sansAr hai. anAdi kAlase jIvane akelA grahaN kiyA hai. aur vah vyavahAr yathArtha nahIn hai. akelI bAhya dRuShTi, akelI kriyA, vah sab usane akelA grahaN kiyA hai. andar dravyako grahaN nahIn kiyA hai. akelI bhed par dRuShTi, akelI pariNAmon par dRuShTi, svabhAv grahaN nahIn kiyA hai. jo asal vastu bhUtArtha hai, jisamense svabhAv pragaT hotA hai, jo asal mUl svarUp hai use grahaN kiye binA muktikI paryAy pragaT nahIn hotI. svAnubhUtikI dashA use grahaN kiye binA nahIn hotI. isaliye dravyadRuShTi mukhya hai. utanA to jIvane bahut bAr grahaN kiyA hai. charaNAnuyog Adi. .. mukhya ho use sansArakA phal nahIn AtA, use to vItarAgatA hotI hai. jisakI dRuShTi dravya par ho (use). parantu jisakI dRuShTi dravya par nahIn hai, use sansArakA phal hai.

mumukShu- sAdi ananta kAl paryant paripUrNa shuddha paryAyonkA kAraN de aisA dravya dRuShTimen lenA hai ki niShkriy dravya?

samAdhAna- jisakI dRuShTi dravya par hai,.. jisamen paryAyen pragaT hotI hain, aisA dravya. lakShyamen vah lenA hai. parantu usakI dRuShTi us vakta pariNAm par nahIn hai. vah to sAmAnya par hai. usakI dRuShTi sAmAnya par hai. parantu vah dravya aisA hai ki vah dravya pariNAmavAlA hai. sarvathA pariNAm rahit vah dravya nahIn hai.

mumukShu- pariNAm nahIn hai, parantu pariNAmakA kAraNabhUt shaktirUp sAmarthya lekar dravya baiThA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn. pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. pariNAm binAkA dravya nahIn hai. ananta guN aur ananta paryAyakI shakti-sAmarthyavAlA jo dravya hai, use lakShyamen lenA hai. usakI dRuShTi pariNAm par nahIn hai. usakI dRuShTi niShkriy dravya par hai. parantu usamen dravya sarvathA niShkriy nahIn hai, pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. vah use gnAnamen honA chAhiye. usakI dRuShTi dravya pah honeke bAvajUd, use gnAnamen honA chAhiye ki dravya pariNAmavAlA dravya hai. dravya akelA kUTastha dravya nahIn hai. akelA kUTastha ho to yah sansAr kaisA?uusakI mokShakI paryAy pragaT ho, pariNAm jo palaTate hain vah sab pariNAm hai. niShkriy dravya

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yAnI dravyamen koI pariNAm hI nahIn hote hain, aisA dravya nahIn hai.

vItarAg ho jAy, kevalagnAn ho jAy to bhI dravya to pariNAmI rahatA hai. dravya to.. usamen usake ananta guN pariNaman karate rahate hain. usakA gnAn sAdiananta kAl pariNamatA rahatA hai. ek samayamen lokAlokako jAnanevAlA gnAn sab jAnatA rahatA hai. usakA AnandakA guN pariNamatA rahatA hai. pariNAmI svabhAv to pariNamatA hI rahatA hai. pariNAm binAkA dravya nahIn hai. to sukhakA vedan kise? sukhakA vedan kise? gnAnakA jAnanekA (kArya). guN svayam kArya na kare to guN kaisA? gnAn jAnanekA kArya na kare to use gnAn kaise kahen? Ananda AnandakA kArya na kare to Ananda kaise kahen? chetan chetanakA kArya na kare to use chetan kaise kahen?

usake jo lakShaN hain, usakA kArya-usakA pariNAm na ho to vah guN kaisA? vah paryAy kaisI? vah dravya kaisA? bilakul pariNAm binAkA dravya ho to. svAnubhUtikI paryAy vah bhI paryAy hai. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate munirAj, vah bhI paryAy hai. usakI dRuShTi dravya par hai. sAmAnya par dRuShTi hai, parantu vedan to paryAyakA hotA hai. shreNi chaDhate hain, kevalagnAn hotA hai, vah sab pariNAm hain.

mumukShu- dRuShTike viShay jitanA hI dravya athavA to ekAnta utanI hI vastu hai, aisA nahIn mAnatA.

samAdhAna- ananta guN aur ananta paryAyakA sAmarthyavAn dravya hai. paryAy usake lakShyamen nahIn hai, guNabhed lakShyamen nahIn hai, bhed par dRuShTi nahIn hai. sAmAnya par dRuShTi hai. parantu dravya aisA sAmarthyavAn hai, aisA use gnAn honA chAhiye. dRuShTi usake astitva par hai. astitva parantu kaisA astitva hai? paripUrNa sAmarthyavAn, ananta guN evan ananta paryAyakA sAmarthya dravyamen hai, ki jo dravya koI achintya hai. usake pariNAm bhI achintya hai aur dravyakI shaktiyAn bhI achintya hain. jo tarkamen nahIn A sakatA aisA usakA svabhAv hai.

ananta kAl vyatIt ho to bhI jo khatma nahIn hotA. ananta avibhAg pratichchhedarUp pariName to bhI usamense khatma nahIn hotA. jo baDh nahIn jAtA, jo kam nahIn ho jAtA, aisA achintya sAmarthyavAn, jo tarkamen nahIn AtA aisA usakA sAmarthya hai, aisA dravya hai. .. usake gnAnamen grahaN hotA hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTikA viShayabhUt dravya sUkShma paDatA hai.

samAdhAna- dRuShTikA viShay dravya hai. vah sAmAnya astitvako grahaN karatI hai. astvi vastu chetan hai, jo sat svarUp, chetanasvarUp, gnAnasvarUp gnAyak hai usakA astitva grahaN karatI hai. parantu vah gnAyak kaisA hai? kUTastha hai aisA nahIn, kArya karanevAlA gnAyak hai. guNarUp pariNaman karanevAlA gnAyak hai. dRuShTi evan gnAn donon sAth hI rahate hain.

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... apane kShetramen rahakar pUrNa lokAlokako jAnanevAlA, ek samayamen utanA sAmarthya rakhatA hai. vaisA usakA gnAn koI achintya hai.

mumukShu- ek or gnAnakI bhI apAr mahimA gAyI jAtI hai aur ek or dRuShTike viShayabhUt tattva, usakI bhI apAr mahimA (gAyI jAtI hai).

samAdhAna- dRuShTikA viShayabhUt jo dravya hai, us dravyamen ananta sAmarthya bharA hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTi, vedAnta kahatA hai aise tattvakI aur gnAn, jainadarshan kahatA hai aise tattvakA?

samAdhAna- dRuShTi evan gnAn donon sAthamen hote hain. ekAnta dRuShTi... yah vedAnta kahate hain aisA ekAnta to hai nahIn. isaliye anekAnta (svarUp hai) ata vedAnta nahIn hai. parantu jaisI yathArtha vastu hai vaisI hI dRuShTi aur jaisI vastu hai vaisA gnAn, usakA nAm samyak mArga hai. samyak ekAnta aur samyak ... vedAntakI dRuShTise ekAnta grahaN kare, usake sAth gnAn hotA hI nahIn hai. dRuShTi aur gnAnakA sumel hai. ekAnta shUnya yA ekAnta kUTastha, vah sab to ekAnta ho jAtA hai.

dRuShTi svayamko grahaN kare. gnAn sAthamen hai vah dRuShTi hI alag hai. vedAnta kahatA hai aisI dRuShTi nahIn hai. ... dRuShTikA kArya alag hai. yah to samyak dRuShTi hai. vah alag jAtakA kArya karatI hai. .. viShay kahate hain, bAkI to dRuShTi evan gnAnakA sumel honese usakA sab samyak kArya hai.

mumukShu- paryAyake viShay parase gurudev kis prakAr dravyadRuShTi par le jAnA chAhate hain?

samAdhAna- dravya par dRuShTi kara. jo paryAy hai usakI kartAbuddhi tU chhoD de. paradravyake sAth jo terI kartAbuddhi hai, vah kartAbuddhi chhoD, aisA gurudevako kahanA hai. jo paryAy pariNamanevAlI hai vah pariNamatI hai. tU kartAbuddhi chhoDa. paradravyakA kar sakatA hUn, dUsaremen pheraphAr kar sakatA hUn aur dUsarekA svAmI banakar usakA pheraphAr karanA chAhe, usakI svAmItvatabuddhi aur kartAbuddhi toDakar tU tere dravya par dRuShTi kar, tU terA jo dravya hai us par dRuShTi kara.

jo paryAyen pariNamatI hain, usakA tU kartA nahIn hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hain. kartAbuddhi chhuDAte hain. parantu kramabaddha hai vah puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. kramabaddhako puruShArthake sAth sambandha hotA hai. jo paryAy pariNamanevAlI ho vah pariNamatI hai, parantu jo svakI or svayam puruShArtha karatA hai, svabhAv or puruShArtha karatA hai, us puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha juDA hai. parantu jo svarUpakI prApti hotI hai, svabhAvakI, kevalagnAnakI prApti hotI hai usamen puruShArtha sAthamen juDA hai. puruShArtha binAkA akelA kramabaddha nahIn hotA.

svayam dravya par dRuShTi kare. tU kartAbuddhi chhoDa. to vah gnAtA ho jAya. phir usakI

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jo paryAyen pariNamanevAlI hotI hain, vah pariNamatI hai. parantu puruShArtha to svayamko dravyadRuShTi karanekA puruShArtha sAthamen hotA hai. dravyadRuShTi to tujhe hI karanI hai. jaisA bananA hogA banegA, aisA karanese puruShArtha (nahIn hotA). aise koI apaneAp dravyadRuShTaShTi nahIn ho jAtI. puruShArtha kare to dravyadRuShTi hotI hai. isaliye kramabaddha, antarakA jo kramabaddha hai vah puruShArthake sAth juDA huA hai. bAkI paradravyakA kartA to svayam ho nahIn sakatA. vah kartAbuddhi chhuDAte haiain. tU puruShArtha kar to jo paryAyen pariNamanevAlI hain vaise pariNamatI hai. vah to paryAy hai, parantu dravyadRuShTise kartAbuddhi chhuDAte hain. gurudevako yah kahanA hai. tU kartAbuddhi chhoDa. parantu puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha juDA huA hai.

kramabaddha aisA nahIn hai ki use puruShArthake sAth koI sambandha hI nahIn hai. bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA vaisA hogA. to bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA hogA arthAt bhagavAnane jisakA puruShArtha dekhA hai. bhagavAnane puruShArtha binA apaneAp ho jAyagA aisA nahIn dekhA hai. ata jo AtmArthI hotA hai usakI dRuShTi to puruShArtha par hotI hai. parantu parapadArtha orakI terI kartAbuddhi chhoD de. tU parakA kuchh nahIn kar sakatA, parantu tere dravya par dRuShTi karake terI pariNatikI gati badalanI vah to puruShArthakI bAt hai. vah binA puruShArtha hotA nahIn. gurudevane to bahut tarka kiye hain. gurudevane to anek prakArase usakA Ashay (spaShTa kiyA hai). puruShArtha to gurudev mukhya kahate the. gurudevane hI sab samajhAyA hai.

mumukShu- gurudev usamen sAthamen aisA lete hain ki kramabaddha kahanepar jo sarvagnane dekhA hai (vaise hogA), to sarvagnakI sattAkA svIkAr hai, vah kaise?

samAdhAna- sarvagnako mAnA. jo kramabaddha nahIn mAnatA hai, vah sarvagnako nahIn mAnatA. sarvagnako nahIn mAnA, parantu svayam jo dravyadRuShTi karatA hai, usane hI sarvagnako mAne hain. bhagavAnane jo dekhA hai vaisA hogA, bhagavAnane dekhA vaisA hogA, usakA jo svIkAr kare vah svayam gnAtA ho jAya. aisA kahanA hai. sarvagnakA sambandha usake (sAth hai).

sarvagnako kisane mAnA hai? jo gnAtA ho jAy usane sarvagnako mAnA hai. bhagavAnako mAnatA nahIn hai, jo svayam (aisA mAnatA hai ki) main kar sakatA hUn, mujhase sab hotA hai. bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA (vaisA hogA). gnAtAbuddhi-tU gnAyak ho jA. gnAyak ho jAy usIne bhagavAnakA svIkAr kiyA hai.

gurudev to dravyadRuShTi parase kramabaddha kahate the. jisane dravyadRuShTi kI usIne kramabaddha mAnA hai, dUsare kisIne mAnA hI nahIn. jisane dravyadRuShTi kI usane sarvagnako mAnA, jisane dravyadRuShTi kI usane kramabaddha mAnA. dUsare jo bolate hain usane kramabaddha mAnA nahIn.

mumukShu- usakA artha yah huA na ki paradravyamen terA puruShArtha chal nahIn sakatA. AtmA apane darshan, gnAn dvArA puruShArtha kar sakatA hai. svamen kare, paramen kar nahIn sakatA.

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samAdhAna- paramen svayam nahIn kar sakatA hai, apanA puruShArtha svayam kar sakatA hai. svayamkA puruShArtha svayam karatA hai. usamen sahajapane darshan, gnAn, chAritrakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. svayam dravya par dRuShTi kare. AtmArthIkI puruShArtha par hI dRuShTi hotI hai. phir koI kahatA hai, puruShArtha honevAlA hogA to hogA. use hogA hI nahIn, jise aisI bhAvanA ho use.

puruShArtha karanevAleko puruShArtha par dRuShTi hotI hai ki main puruShArtha karun. main puruShArtha karun. main dravya par dRuShTi karun, aisI usakI bhAvanA hotI hai. usImen kramabaddha hotA hai. usImen sahaj paryAyen pragaT hotI hain. puruShArtha aur sahaj, dononkA sambandha hai. sirpha sahajase nahIn hotA hai, puruShArtha sAthamen sahaj juDA hotA hai.

mumukShu- apane dravyakA puruShArtha kaise?

samAdhAna- apane dravyamen puruShArtha... pariNati par or gayI hai, rAg-dveShakA svAmItva mAnA hai, svayam sankalpa-vikalpa (karatA hai), vibhAv so main, vibhAv merA svabhAv, aisA mAnA hai. dravyako svayam pahachAnatA hI nahIn hai. isaliye dravyako pahachAne. main gnAyak hUn, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aise svayam apane dravya par dRuShTi kare. apane dravyako pahachAne. anAdise dravyako kahAn pahachAnA hai. isaliye dravya or use dRuShTi badalanI hai.

yah chaitanya so main hUn aur yah vibhAv so main nahIn hUn. yah chaitanya shuddhAtmA nirvikalpa tattva so main hUn. aisI usakI dRuDh pratIti, us par usakI dRuShTi sthApit karatA hai. pUrI pariNati palaT jAtI hai. dRuShTi yAnI mAtra dekhanekI dRuShTi aisA nahIn, pUrI gnAyakakI pariNati usakI palaT jAtI hai. use bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai. dravya par dRuShTi karanese usakI pUrI bhedagnAnakI dhArA ho jAtI hai. pUrI gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT ho jAtI hai, dravya par dRuShTi karanese. dRuShTi aur gnAn donon sAthamen (hote hain). Anshik lInatA hotI hai. usakI gnAyakakI dhArA-gnAtAkI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai, dravya par dRuShTi karanese. anAdise dravya par dRuShTi hI kahAn karatA hai.

guurudevane to anek prakArase chAron orase anek jAtakA gurudevane samajhAyA hai. nishchay aur vyavahAr, anek jAtakA spaShTa karake samajhAyA hai. gurudevakA to param upakAr hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai. usamen use svAnubhUti hotI hai, dravya par dRuShTi karanese. use puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai. svayam dravya hI hai, usamen dRuShTi kyA karanI? dRuShTine dravyako pahachAnA kahAn hai? anAdise dravyako pahachAnA nahIn hai. dRuShTi to par or hai.

mumukShu- Apane do din pahale kahA thA ki puruShArtha karanekI bhAvanA bhI rahe aur kartRutva Aye nahIn.

samAdhAna- hAn, puruShArthakI bhAvanA rahe use kartAbuddhi nahIn hotI. main kartA hokar

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kuchh nayA karatA hUn, aisI kartAbuddhi use nahIn hotI. puruShArthakI dhArA, apanI or puruShArtha chalatA hai, bhAvanA rahatI hai. kartAbuddhi use nahIn hotI. usakI pariNati gati (svarUpakI or chalatI hai). jo yathArtha sat svarUpako pragaT karanA chAhatA hai, usamen use jUThA AtA nahIn. use yathArthatA (hotI hai).

mumukShu- parakA akartA. apane jo svAbhAvik bhAv hain, darshan, gnAn, chAritra un bhAvonkA kartA kahalAtA hai na?

samAdhAna- hAn, apane svabhAvakA kartA hai. vibhAvakA akartA hai.

mumukShu- AtmAmen aisA koI akartA nAmakA koI guN athavA svabhAv ho sakatA hai ki jo apanI gnAnaparyAy na kare, darshanaparyAy na kare, sahaj ho.

samAdhAna- dravya par dRuShTi karanese main apane svabhAvakA kartA hUn, aisA vikalpa bhI nahIn hotA. svayam ek sAmAnya par dRuShTi rakhatA hai. usamen kartA Adi kisI par usakI dRuShTi nahIn hai. ek sAmAnya tattva par usakI dRuShTi sthApit kar detA hai. sahaj svabhAvase pariNati ho vaise dRuShTi sthApit karatA hai. parantu vah sarvathA ekAnta nahIn hai. svayam apane svabhAvakA kartA hai.

main kartA hUn, aisA bhed karake apane svabhAvamen aisI dRuShTi sthApit nahIn karatA ki mere svabhAvakA kartA hUn. ek sAmAnya par dRuShTi rahatI hai. aisA bhed vikalpa nahIn rahatA. parantu svayam svabhAvakA kartA hai.