Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 154.

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samAdhAna- ... andarase jaldI mil jAy to. kitanI bAr samayasAr paDhA, sabhAke bIcha. sab shAstra, bahut shAstra sabhAmen paDhe. kitane sAla.

mumukShu- samayasAr dekho na, 19 bAra.

samAdhAna- prachAr gurudevase hI huA hai. itane sAlamen gurudev jitanA adhyAtma (prasiddha nahIn huA). ek-ek panktike artha karanA. svayam hI ekadam ullAs evan Anandase paDhate the na. unako svayamko Ashcharya lagatA thA. ata sab shrotA usamen rang jAte the. unako svayamko aisA lagatA thA ki amRut barasA!

.. kyA bolanA aur kyA nahIn bolanA, aisA hotA hai. aisA sadabhAgya milA ki gurudev yahAn padhAre, kitane jIvonko lAbh milA. yah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudevane sabako Atma-bhagavAn dikhAyA ki AtmA bhagavAn hai. nahIn AtmA bhagavAn, kaun pahachAnatA thA? AtmA bhagavAn hai tU. kartAbuddhi chhoD, gnAtAko pragaT kara. shAstramen to AtA hai, parantu use sUlajhAyA kisane? tU parako kar nahIn sakatA, par terA nahIn kar sakatA. tU gnAyak-gnAtA hai, ye sab shAstramen AtA hai. use kisane sulajhAyA? gurudevane sab sulajhAyA.

sabakI sthUl bAhya dRuShTi thI. antar dRuShTi karanekA gurudevane kahA. sachchA munipanA batAyA, bhagavAnakA svarUp batAyA, samyagdarshanakA batAyA, pUrA muktikA mArga batAyA. munipanA kaun samajhatA thA? kevalagnAn antaramen bhagavAnako pragaT hotA hai aur bhagavAn vItarAg dashArUp AtmAmen (pariNamit hue). bhagavAnakA svarUp kaun pahachAnatA thA? sab aisA mAnate the ki siddha ho unhen janma nahIn hai, maraN nahIn hai. siddha shilAmen virAjate the. aisA sab sthUl samajhate the.

... sab AtmA samAn hain. AtmA dravyase sab samAn hain, paryAyamen bhed hai. upAdAnase sab hotA hai, nimittase hotA nahIn. nimitta bIchamen hotA hai. ye sab gurudevane spaShTa kiyA. pratyek dravya svatantra hai. koI kisIkA kar nahIn sakatA. guArudevane svatantratA batAyI. .. mArga batAyA. tU AtmA hai, tU AtmAko dekha.

... bahut abhyAs karavAyA hai. antarakA abhyAs bAkI rah gayA hai. dev-guru-


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shAstrakA tU jaise smaraN karatA hai, unhen hRudayamen (rakhatA hai), vaise gnAyakako tU hRudayamen rakhanA. usakA sAnnidhya to rakhanA. usakA antaramen abhyAs ho to jyAdA achchhI bAt hai. use hRudayamen to rakhanA. dev-guru-shAstrakI jaise mahimA rakhatA hai, vaise gnAyakako tU hRudayamen rakhanA. to hotA hai. shAstra mere (hRudayamen hai), vaise gnAyak bhI mere hRudayamen Ao. antaramen to abhI (dUsarI bAt hai), ye to dhokhanerUp hai.

jinendra dev bhagavAn.. guru kahate hain na? terA AtmA bhI bhagavAn hai. dev-guru- shAstra bhagavAn, vaise gnAyak bhI bhagavAn hai. svayam bhagavAn hai. chaturtha kAl hameshA hotA hai, is bharatakShetramen hI aisA hotA hai. panchamakAl AtA hai. vahAn hameshA tIrthankar evan muni Adi vicharate haiain. is panchamakAlamen hI aisA hotA hai, is bharatakShetramen.

.. anek nayonke pahalUse jAnanA hai. nayapakSha pahale AtA hai, lekin phir chhUT jAtA hai. AtmA baddha hai aur AtmA abaddha hai, AtmA ek hai aur AtmA anek hai, vah sab vikalpa Ate hain. svabhAvase ek hai aur guNase anek hai. jAnanemen nayapakSha (AtA hai). lekin phir atikrAnt ho jAtA hai. dRuShTi ek bhI nayapakShakA svIkAr nahIn karatI. vah to abhed hai. lekin vikalpa chhUTe tab sab nayapakSha chhUT jAte hain. tU tujhe pahachAna. .. itanA spaShTa kar-karake gurudevane mArga spaShTa kar diyA hai.

... har jagah AtmA hI mukhya hai. prashasta kAyAmen ... chalatA hI rahatA hai. sabamen AtmA. AtmAkA Ashraya. sab prashasta kAyAmen AtmA ... sanyamamen, niyamamen merA AtmA. AtmAmen hI basanA hai. merA AtmA hI samIp hai. ... Ashray le to aisA ho jAy ki kaise Ashray lUn? yah Ashray chhUTatA nahIn aur vah Ashray hotA nahIn. anAdise vibhAvakA Ashray ho gayA hai. AtmAkA Ashray lenA use atyant duShkar ho gayA hai. svayam svayamse dUr ho gayA ho, aisA use bhram ho gayA hai. svayam hone par bhI.

.. AtmA samayasAr.. AtmA hI usakA prayojan hai. AtmAko sAdhe. .. svarUp AtmA, gnAyakabhAvarUp AtmA. sanyam, tap, niyam sab AtmA svayam hI hai. AtmA svabhAvarUp hai. shubh vikalpa Aye vah alag, vah to puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. ... khoj lenA, kahInse bhI AtmAko khoj lenA. .. AtmArthI ho vah AtmAkA prayojan sAdhe. AtmAko khoj le. AtmAkA prayojan aur Atmavastuko khoje. vah usakA kArya hai.

pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. .. prasangommen jo lAbh milA, vah sab bhAgyashAlI hai. aise gurudev mile aur unakA itanA sAnnidhya, vANI evan ye sab milA. is panchamakAlamen ye sab milanA bahut mushkil thA. mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki garudev padhAre. ... pratApase sabako mile. sabako mile hain. unakA jitanA karen utanA kam hai. unakI jitanI sevA karen aur jitanA lAbh mile, sab kam hai. usamen AtA hai, "arpaNatA pUrI nav amane


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AvaDe, ...' chAhe jitanA kiyA, lekin sab kam hI hai.

samAdhAna- gnAyak so gnAyak hai, AtA hai na. pramatta bhI nahIn aur apramatta bhI nahIn hai. usamen kyA pUchhanA hai, ki AtmA gnAyak hI hai?

mumukShu- kisI bhI avasthAke binA ... ekarUp hai, aisA batAnA hai?

samAdhAna- koI bhI avasthAmen gnAyak so gnAyak hI hai. sAdhak avasthAkI koI bhI paryAy ho, pramatta dashA yA apramatta dashA, AchAryadev kahate hain, chhaThThave-sAtaven guNasthAnamen munirAj kahate hain. chhaThThavA-sAtavAn guNasthAn, apramatta avasthA yA pramatta avasthA, koI bhI dashAmen AtmA to gnAyak so gnAyak hI hai. jo AtmA anAdiananta jo gnAyak, gnAyakarUp gnAt huA vah to gnAyak hI hai. donon dashAmen gnAyak hai. use apramatta dashA, sAdhak dashAkI vRuddhi ho, apramatta dashA ho yA pramatta dashA ho, avasthA koI bhI baDhatI jAy, to bhI usamen gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai.

mumukShu- shubhabhAvamen thakAn lage to andar jAnA ho sakatA hai. shubhabhAvamen bhI thakAn lage. AchArya bhagavAn kahate hain, "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hI shrutA', isamen kaise (mel hai)?

samAdhAna- AchAryadevakI vah apekShA alag hai aur vah apekShA alag hai. "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hI shrutA' arthAt utanI prItise bAt bhI sunI hai arthAt jise utanI antaramen ruchi hai, AtmAkI or itanI prIti hai ki mujhe AtmA kaise samajhamen Aye? isaliye use AtmA bhI apUrva lage. ye AtmA kaisA apUrva hogA! aisI AtmAkI orakI ruchi pragaT ho to us or usakI pariNati jAtI hai. yathArtha ruchirUp kAraN pragaT ho to kArya hotA hai. aisA AchAryadev kahate hain. yathArtha kAraN ho, yathArtha prIti ho antarase, sunanekI prIti aisI antarase lage ki andar AtmAkI or chalA jAy, aisI prIti lage.

isaliye use yathArtha ruchi ho to yathArtha kArya AtA hai. parantu jo shubhabhAvamen aTakA hai ki shubhabhAvase mujhe dharma hotA hai, shubhake sAth jisakI ekatvabuddhi hai to AtmA to shuddhAtmA to shuddhAtma svarUp hI hai. shubhabhAv usakA svabhAv nahIn hai. isaliye shubhabhAvamen yadi ekatvabuddhi ho jAy to vah Age nahIn chal sakatA. aur shubhAshubh donon bhAvommen use thakAn laganI chAhiye, use AkulatA laganI chAhiye, dukh laganA chAhiye. kyonki vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aisI use yathArtha pratIt ho, aisA use andarase dukh lage, thakAn lage to hI vah Age jAtA hai.

parantu bIchamen yah ruchi Aye, us ruchimen vah shubhabhAvamen grahaN nahIn karatA hai, parantu AtmAkI apUrvatAko grahaN karatA hai. shubhabhAv to bIchamen Ate hain. jab tak


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kevalagnAn nahIn hotA, tab tak use bIchamen shubhabhAv (Ate hain), jab tak usakI vah dashA hai tab tak Ate hain. munionko bhI shubhabhAv to Ate hain, parantu heyabuddhise Ate haiain ki vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. isaliye usase bhedagnAn-bhinna-nyAre rahate hain. samyagdRuShTi bhI usase nyArA rahatA hai. usakA bhedagnAn vartatA hai ki shubhabhAv apanA svabhAv nahI nhai. aisI pratIt na ho tab tak Age nahIn baDhatA. usamen thakAn nahIn lage to Age nahIn baDhatA.

parantu "tatprati prItichitten' arthAt tU shubhabhAv kar, aisA artha nahIn hai. use apUrvatA lagatI hai. us bAtakI apUrvatAke sAth AtmavastukI apUrvatA lagatI hai. arthAt apUrvatA laganese vah svayamkI or jAtA hai. shubhabhAvase vah Age baDhatA hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. parantu use apUrvatA (lagatI hai). shubhabhAv to sAth-sAth Ate hain, parantu vah AdaraNIy nahIn hai, lekin use shubhabhAv sAthamen Ate hain. parantu usakI pariNati to apUrvatAkI or jAtI hai. aisI apUrvatA lagatI hai isaliye Age jAtA hai. antarase aisI yathArtha ruchi jAgRut hotI hai. shubhabhAvase Age baDhA aisA usakA artha nahIn hai, apUrvatAse Age jAtA hai.

(shubhabhAv) bahut bAr kiye, lekin usamen sarvasva mAn liyA, isaliye vahAn ruk gayA hai. AchArya aisA kahate hain ki shubhabhAv terA svabhAv nahIn hai. lekin terA AtmA koI apUrva hai, use pahichAna. ata apUrvatA lage to Age baDhatA hai. UnchI dashA pragaT ho, apUrvakaraN Aye ki kevalagnAn (pragaT ho), koI bhI UnchI-UnchI dashA pragaT ho to bhI gnAyak to gnAyak hI hai. vah sab paryAyen, shuddhikI paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. isaliye gnAyak anAdiananta hai, us par dRuShTi kara. kahanekA tAtparya yah hai. gnAyak gnAyakarUp hI rahatA hai. gnAyakakI dRuShTikI Dor gnAyakakI or hI hai, to usamen shuddhikI paryAyen pragaT hotI jAtI hai. (shuddhi) baDhatI jAy to bhI usakI dRuShTi to gnAyak par hI hai.

mumukShu- shuddhabhAv adhikAramen bhI vahI bAt kahI hai? ki jivAdi sAt tattva hey hai, AtmA grAhya hai?

samAdhAna- sab bhAv hey hain, ek AtmA grAhya hai. bAkI sab bhAv-kShayopashamabhAv, upashamabhAv, udayabhAv, kShAyikabhAva. ek pAriNAmikabhAv hI grahaN karane yogya hai. bAkI sab hey hai. bIchamen Ate hain. upashamabhAvakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, kShAyikabhAv to AtmAkI shuddha nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai, kShayopashamabhAv adhUrI paryAy hai, sab paryAy par dRuShTi karake anAdiananta pAriNAmikabhAv hai, use grahaN kare. AtmAko grahatA hai. pAriNAmikabhAv arthAt pUrA AtmA, akhaNDa AtmA anAdiananta hai use grahaN kara. vah sab bhAv to bIchamen paryAyen hain.


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anAdiananta jo AtmA hai, use grahaN kara. vah sab to pragaT hotI hai. upashamabhAv, kShAyikabhAvako grahaN nahIn karake ek pAriNAmikabhAvako grahaN kara. to tattvakA mUl asalI svarUp usane grahaN kiyA hai. vah to UparakA hai, asal svarUp nahIn hai, vah to pragaT hotA hai. anAdiananta svarUp pAriNAmikabhAv hai, use grahaN karanA. use grahaN karanese usakA mUl chaitanyatattvakA asalI mUl usane grahaN kiyA. asalI svabhAv grahaN kiyA. asalI svabhAv grahaN kare to usamense nirmalatA pragaT hotI hai. asalI svabhAv yadi grahaN na kare to usamense nirmalatA pragaT nahIn hotI. (niyamasAramen) pAriNAmikabhAvako bahut hI gAyA hai.

mumukShu- .. 320 gAthAmen kahA hai. samAdhAna- paramapAriNAmik? anAdiananta paramapAriNAmik kahanemen AtA hai. .. apekShA lAgU nahIn paDatI. nirapekSha bhAv hai, anAdiananta. upashamabhAv, karmake kShayakI apekShA, upashamakI apekShA, upashamabhAvakI yA karmake kShayakI aur udayakI apekShA, koI apekShA nahIn hai. jo nirapekSha bhAv hai, anAdiananta hai, vah paramapAriNAmikabhAv hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!