Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 189.

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mumukShu- patramen AtA hai ki mumukShuke netra mahAtmAko pahachAn lete hain. to samakit to huA nahIn hai, vah kaise pahachAn sake?

samAdhAna- use sat-orakI ruchi lagI hai ki yathArtha vastu kyA hai? AtmAkA karanA hai. AtmAkA svarUp kaun batAye? aisI use antarase bhAvanA huyI hai. to jo satpuruSh AtmAkI bAten karate hon, svAnubhUtikI bAten karate hon, to use antarakI aisI jignAsA jAgRut huyI hai ki usake parIkShA karaneke netra aise ho gaye hain ki ye satpuruSh hain aur svAnubhUtikI bAt karate hain aur muktike mArgakI bAt karate hain. usake gnAnamen aisI nirmalatA amuk prakArakI A jAtI hai ki vah pakaD sakatA hai. use jignAsA, sat orakI antaramense aisI ruchi pragaT huyI hai isaliye vah grahaN kar letA hai. use pragaT nahIn huA hai, parantu jise pragaT huA hai, use pahachAn letA hai. usakI ruchi vaisI hai.

mumukShu- dharma prApta karanemen pariNAm par AdhAr hai?

samAdhAna- antar dRuShTi, antarake pariNAm par AdhAr hai. bAhya kriyA par AdhAr nahIn hai, antar dRuShTi par AdhAr hai. usakI dRuShTi sat-or honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- svabhAvakI ruchi huI hai, parantu vah svabhAvakI ruchi yathArtha nahIn huyI hogI?

samAdhAna- apane AtmAko andar vishvAs A jAy ki ye ruchi huyI hai, ruchi aisI ho ki AtmAke binA mujhe kahIn chain paDe aisA nahIn hai. AtmA mile to hI shAnti hai. aisI yadi antarase yathArtha prakArase aisI bhAvanA aur lagan ho to... AtmAke binA mujhe santoSh nahIn hogA. aisA antaramen ho to usakI ruchi yathArtha hai. usake puruShArthakI gati or gaye binA rahegI nahIn, bhale kAl lage. vah svayam hI pakaD sakatA hai ki mujhe AtmAke binA kahIn chain paDe aisA nahIn hai, AtmAke binA mujhe shAnti ho aisA nahIn hai. antaramense shAnti pragaT na ho, tabatak mujhe kahIn shAnti lage aisA nahIn hai. aisA svayamko antaramense hotA ho to svayamkI ruchiko svayam pakaD sakatA hai.

AtmAkI svabhAv pariNatike binA kahIn santoSh nahIn hogA. aisA antaramense yadi


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hotA ho to usakI ruchi vah svayam hI grahaN aur pakaD sakatA hai ki yah ruchi aisI hai ki AtmA pragaT karake hI chhUTakArA hai. apanI ruchiko svayam pakaD sakatA hai. usamen kAl lage, vah ek alag bAt hai.

gurudevane antar dRuShTikA kaisA mArga batAyA. sab bAharase yAtrA karaneko paidal Ate hain. mAnon usamense kahIn dharma prApta ho jAyagA. lekin vah dharma kahIn dUr rah jAtA hai, aur bAharase sab karatA rahatA hai ki aisA karanese milegA, aisA karanese milegA.

gurudevane antarakI dRuShTimen mArga batAyA (ki) antar pariNati palaT de. paidal chalakar do-do mahinese yAtrA karate hain. (mArga to) dUr hI rah jAtA hai. aise ananta kAlamen jIv aisA hI karatA hai. parvat par jAkar AtAp sahan kare, sardImen ThaNDa sahan kare, to bhI AtmA to dUr hI dUr rah jAtA hai. antar satakI ruchi pragaT hue binA, andar puruShArthakI gati AtmAkI or jAtI nahIn aur bAharase kuchh A jAtA hai, aisA mAn lete hain.

mumukShu- .. sab bhramaNA nikAl dI.

samAdhAna- sab bhramaNA nikAl dI aur mArgako aisA spaShTa kar diyA hai ki kahIn kisIkI bhUl na rahe, utanA spaShTa kar diyA hai.

mumukShu- tU kroDo mandir banA, terA kuchh kalyAN nahIn hogA. main to chamak gayA thA. kyA bAt hai ye sab! adbhut bAt!

samAdhAna- dRuShTi bAhar hI bAhara. antar chaitanyakI or dRuShTi na jAy tabatak kuchh nahIn milatA hai. gurudevane sabako yathArtha mArga, dRuShTi batA dI hai. chalanA svayamko hai.

mumukShu- yathArtharUpase gurudevakI bhakti to Apake pAs..

samAdhAna- abhI to dIkShA yathArtharUpase kisIko samajhamen nahIn AtI. chhoD diyA isaliye AtmAkA kalyAN ho gayA, aisA mAnate hain. puNya bAndhe, dUsarA kuchh nahIn. pariNAm achchhe ho to puNya bandhe, bAkI kuchh nahIn. jo kiyA vahI chakkara. ghAnchIkA bail jahAn chhoDe to vahInkA vahIn chakkaramen khaDA ho.

mumukShu- pUrA mArga..

samAdhAna- hAn, dRuShTi antaramen kar to antaramense pragaT ho. shuddhAtmAko pahichAne. usamen shuddhAtmAkI paryAy pragaT ho, usamense svAnubhUti, sab usamen hotA hai. bhedagnAn pragaT hotA hai. vahI bhAvanA rakhane jaisI hai, vahI karanekA hai. dhyey to ek hI-gnAyak pragaT ho. vahI karanekA hai. vAnchan, vichAr sabamen lakShya to ek hI, dhyey to ek hI karanA hai.

mumukShu- ananta jIv aise hI puruShArtha karake mokSha padhAre. gurudevane kahA ki


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tU vartamAnamen...

samAdhAna- puruShArtha karanevAle sab sAth hI hain. gurudevane usakA artha kiyA hai. sabane ArAdhanA kI hai, sab ArAdhanA karate hain, ananta jIvonne is mArgakA ArAdhan kiyA hai. AtmA hI ArAdhane (yogya hai). sAdhya bhI vah hai aur sAdhakadashA bhI vahI hai. aisI sAdhAn ananta jIvonne kI hai, karate hain. bhaviShyamen karenge, bhUtakAlamen kI thI.

... gurudevane mArga batAyA hai. .. sthiti to aisI hai. andar AtmAmen sanskAr paDe hon, vah kAmamen Ate hain. jo AtmAke sanskAr hon vah sAthamen Ate hain. sharIrakA to aisA hai, vedanAkI mUrti hai. kab kyA ho jAy mAlUm nahIn. isaliye AtmAke sanskAr DAlane chAhiye. gurudevane jo kahA us mArgako grahaN karanA chAhiye. aise ananta janma- maraN jIvane kitane kiye hain. kisIko chhoDakar svayam gayA, svayamko chhoDakar dUsare chale gaye. aisA ananta kAlamen bahut bAr huA hai. ananta bAr sab huA hai. gurudevane yah mArga batAyA hai vahI grahaN karane jaisA hai.

AtmA shAshvat hai. AtmAko koI janma-maraN nahIn hote. sharIr chhUT jAtA hai, AtmA to shAshvat hai. AtmAko bhinna karake,.. prathamase hI use bhinna kar denA. sharIr chhUTe tab to AtmA chalA jAtA hai. parantu prathamase hI usakA bhedagnAn kar lene jaisA hai. bhinna to paDatA hI hai, to prathamase hI AtmA bhinna hai. ye vibhAv bhinna aur ye sharIr to bhinna hI hai. ye vibhAv svabhAv bhI apanA nahIn hai. usakA bhedagnAn karane jaisA hai.

ananta janma-maraN kiye, kitane hI. ek-ek dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv aise ananta- ananta kiye. AkAshake ek kShetramen kitanI bAr janma-maraN kar chUkA. kitane dravya, is lokamen jitane the sabako grahaN karake chhoDe. aise ananta parAvartan kiye, usamen yah manuShyabhav mile, usamen panchamakAlamen gurudev mile, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. usamen AtmAkA kar lene jaisA hai. ruchi karane jaisA hai, bArambAr usIkA abhyAs karane jaisA hai. bAharakI lagan lagI hai. lagan antarakI lage to ho. bArambAr use phere, bArambAr phere. bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanA. anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye vahAn dauDA jAtA hai. apanI orakA abhyAs dRuDh karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- isamen prayatna karate hain to bhI nahIn hotA hai, usamen binA prayatnase dauDA jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, binA prayatnase jAtA hai, anAdikA abhyAs hai na isaliye. mArga gurudevane batAyA hai. AtmAko bhinna karake andar shraddhA karake, gnAn karake vah pariNati pragaT karane jaisA hai.


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.. pragaT ho, svAnubhUti karate hain. .. chaitanya par kare to hI paryAy pragaT ho. paryAy pragaT hotI hai, chaitanya par dRuShTi akhaNDa shAshvat AtmA hai, us par dRuShTi kare, chaitanyako pahachAne to hI paryAy pragaT ho. parantu jaisA chaitanyakA svarUp hai, vah chaitanya prakAshamen kab Aye? chaitanya jaisA hai vaisA gnAt ho, vedanamen kab Aye? ki use paryAy pragaT ho, vah paryAy vedanamen Aye, tabhI chaitanya jaisA hai vaisA gnAt hotA hai aur vah svAnubhUtimen AtA hai. isaliye paryAy hai vah AtmA hai, aisA apekShAse (kahate hain). AtmA jaisA hai vaisA kArya kare. usake guN jaisA svayam hai vaisA kArya kare, svayam jaisA hai vaisA pragaT ho, isaliye vah paryAy AtmA hai.

evambhUt nayavAlA aisA kahe ki jo kevalagnAnasvarUp AtmA pariName tab hI kevalagnAnI kahanemen Aye. pragaTarUpase pariName taba. evambhUt nayakI dRuShTise aisA kahanemen Aye. aur naigamanayase aisA kahe ki shaktirUpase jo AtmAmen kevalagnAn hai, use kevalagnAn kahanemen AtA hai. aisI sab apekShAen hotI haiain. tIrthankar honevAle ho to tIrthankar hain aisA kahanemen Aye. aur jo evambhUt dRuShTise (aisA kahe ki), tIrthankarakI paryAy jab pragaT ho, samavasaraNamen virAjate ho tab tIrthankar kahanemen Aye. aisI sab apekShA hotI hai.

AtmA sachchA kab kahalAye? ki AtmA apanI svAnubhUti kare, usake AnandakI svAnubhUti kare tab vah paryAy svarUp pariName tab paryAyako AtmA kahen. aise usakI apekShA alag hotI hai. abhI to svAnubhUtikA ansh hai to use.. evambhUt dRuShTivAlA jaisA hai vaisA kahe. kevalagnAn svarUp pariName AtmA, svAnubhUtirUp pUrNa pariName tab vah nishchay svarUpamen AyA, tab vah kevalagnAnI kahA jAya. aise paryAyakI apekShAse...

AtmAmen ananta guN hain. gnAn, darshan, chAritra (Adi). parantu gnAn, darshan, chAritrarUp AtmA pariNat huA, tab vah sachchA gnAn, darshan, chAritrarUp kahanemen Aye. .. aisA kArya to kiyA nahIn hai. kArya nahIn kiyA hai to vah AtmA kis jAtakA? kAryarUp pariName tab vah AtmA hai. aise. AtmA nahIn hai aisA nahIn, dravya svarUpase AtmA anAdiananta hai. us kAryarUp AtmA, svAnubhUtirUp AtmA pariNamA tab AtmA kahe.

dRuShTAnta AtA hai, rAjAkA kumvar ho to use rAjA-rAjA (kahe). parantu kArya karatA nahIn to rAjA kaise kahe? kAryarUp pariName, rAjArUp pariName tab vah sachchA rAjA kahalAye. aise shaktirUp AtmA hai, vah shaktirUp nahIn, parantu vah kAryarUp pariName tab vah AtmA hai. aise.

.. dRuShTi hI nahIn rakhanI. dravya par dRuShTi kare to hI kArya pragaT ho. to paryAy vah AtmA, kahAnse AyA? .. AtmA par dRuShTi karanese hI AtmA pragaT ho. shAshvat AtmA par dRuShTi karanese hI kArya pragaT hotA hai. parantu us kAryarUp AtmA pariNamA


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nahIn to use AtmA kaise kahe? kArya kare to AtmA. isaliye kAryarUp pariNamA vah AtmA hai, aisA kahate hain. kAryarUp pariNamA tab sachchA AtmA hai. AnandarUp pariName vah AtmA. AtmAkI dRuShTi kare to hI pariName. dhruvakI dRuShTi kare to hI kArya hotA hai. gnAyak par dRuShTi kare to hI kArya hotA hai.

... bAtamen pUrA vastukA svarUp A jAtA hai. paryAyamen AtmA khojane jAy to aise nahIn milatA. AtmAko dravyamen khoje to hI milatA hai. usakA yathArtha svarUp jab vedan ho tab mAlUm paDe. sachche AtmAkA svarUpa. .. kare to hI AtmA grahaN ho. gnAn karanekA hai. .. use samajhAte hain.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- dravya-guNase samAna.

mumukShu- dravya-guNamen samAnatA hai, aise lenA hai.

samAdhAna- dravya-guNase samAn hai. AtmAkA svarUp dravya-guN-paryAy.. bhagavAnane to pragaT paryAy kI hai. ye to pragaT nahIn hai. pragaTatAmen samAn nahIn hai. shaktirUpase samAn hai. pragaTatAmen vedanamen samAn nahIn hai. shaktimen samAn hai. pAriNAmikabhAvase samAn hai. dravya aur guNarUpase samAn hai. paryAyakI pragaTatArUpase samAn nahIn hai. parantu dravya par dRuShTi karake Age jAnA hai. dravya par dRuShTi kara. bhagavAnakA AtmA vaisA hI terA AtmA hai. isaliye jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI tU hai. isaliye dravya par dRuShTi kar to sAdhanAkI paryAy usImenn pragaT hogI. shuddhAtmAkI paryAya.

dravya apekShAse samAn hI hai. usamen kuchh pharka nahIn hai. dravya tU svayam hI hai. dravyamen kuchh pheraphAr nahIn huA hai. isaliye dravyako pahachAn le aur dRuShTiko dravya par sthApit kar de. to jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA tU pragaTamen bhI ho sakegA. isaliye mUl vastu jaisI bhagavAnakI hai aisI hI terI hai. tere pAs sab paDA hai. isaliye tU usamen dRuShTiko sthApit kar de, to bhagavAn jaisA pragaTaramen ho jAyagA. shaktirUpase to tU bhagavAn jaisA hI hai. shaktimen jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI tU hai. isaliye tU tere par dRuShTi kara.

mumukShu- .. samAn hai, us apekShAse nishchayase samAn hai.

samAdhAna- us apekShAse samAn hai. kahIn bAhar lene jAnA paDe aisA nahIn hai. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI tU hai. teremense hI pragaT ho aisA hai. jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA, vaisA hI terA AtmA hai. isaliye tU usamen sAdhanA kar, usamen dRuShTi sthApit kar to pragaT ho, vedanamen Aye.

(jo bhagavAnako jAne vah) svayamko jAne, svayamko jAne vah bhagavAnako jAnatA hai. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI tU hai. sarva prakArase pragaTatAmen samAn ho to sAdhanA


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karanI kahAn rahatI hai. anek prakArase AchAryadev kahate hain. bhinnarUpase upAsit hotA huA gnAyak hai. tU bhagavAn AtmAko jAn to aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. yahAn mUl vastu batAnI hai, terA gnAyak bhinna hai. vastu batA rahe hain-gnAyakako. usamen to (aisA hai ki), kaise gnAt ho? tU apaneAp andar dRuShTi kara. aise gnAt na ho to tU bhagavAnako dekha. bhagavAn jaise hain vaisA hI tU hai. jaisA terA nimitta hai, vaisA hI tU hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. bhagavAnako yathArtha jAne to tujhe gnAt ho jAyagA, tU tujhe gnAt ho jAyagA to bhagavAnako pahachAn legA. upAdAn-nimittakA aisA sambandha hai. aisA vahAn nimitta-naimittik sambandha batAte hain.

yahAn gnAyakako bhinna karake batAte hain. paradravyase bhinnarUpase upAsit karanemen AtA huA main gnAyak bhinna hUn. donon apekShAse samajhanI. nishchay aur vyavahArakA kyA sambandha hai, gurudevane batAyA hai. gnAyak AtmAko bhinna upAsane par AtmA pragaT hotA hai. usakA nimitta dev-guru-shAstra hai. jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA, vaisA apanA AtmA hai.

muumukShu- bhagavAn yahAn hai nahIn aur bhagavAnako jAnanA, aisA AchArya bhagavAn kahate hain. hamen kaise jAnanA?

samAdhAna- bhagavAnako pahachAna. bhagavAnane kyA pragaT kiyA hai? vichAr kara. guru to sAkShAt virAjate the. sab svarUp batAyA hai. gurune aisA hI kahA hai ki tU tere AtmAko pahachAna. bhagavAnakA AtmA jaisA hai, vaisA terA AtmA hai. aisA kahakar, tere AtmAko pahachAn, aisA kahanA hai. bAhya dRuShTi mat rakhanA, antar dRuShTi kara. jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA hai, aisA hI tU hai. antaramen dRuShTi kar, aisA hI terA gnAyak hai.

vah gnAyak shuddha gnAyak hai. usamen kisI bhI prakArake vibhAvane pravesh nahIn kiyA hai. koI paradravyakA pravesh nahIn hai, kShaNikamAtra nahIn hai. parantu vah akhaNDa anAdiananta hai, aise gnAyakako tU pahachAn le. jisamen guNake bhed, paryAyake bhed par dRuShTi nahIn karanA. use gnAnamen jAn le, parantu akele gnAyakako grahaN kar le, aisA tU gnAyak hai.

lekin vah gnAt kab ho? ki antaramen utanI lag lagI ho. bhale buddhise jAnakar bhI antaramen use grahaN karanemen utanI lagan ho to vah grahaN hotA hai. use tU bhedagnAn karake grahaN kara. grahaN hotA hai, bAdamen vedanamen AtA hai.

mumukShu- grahaN yAnI man dvArA jAn le, vah grahaN?

samAdhAna- pahale buddhise nakkI kiyA, parantu man dvArA jAnakar, vah man yAnI antar sUkShma usakA svabhAv pahachAnakar grahaN kar le. man to bIchamen nimitta A jAtA hai. parantu antaramense tU svabhAvako pahachAnakar use grahaN kar le. bhed karake grahaN kar le. ye vibhAv vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. main andar bhinna gnAyak hUn. antar dRuShTi karake


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pahachAn le. vikalpa to usake bAdamen chhUTate hain. pahale use yathArtha pratIt karatA hai, yathArtha bhedagnAn karake. phir usamen lInatA kare, bhedagnAn kare, ugratA kare to usake vikalpa chhUT jAte hain.

muumukShu- anubhav hone pUrva pratIt ho jAtI hai? samAdhAna- anubhav pUrva use pratIt hotI hai. vah us gAthAmen AtA hai, mati- shrut dvArA nishchay karatA hai. matignAn aur shrutagnAn dvArA nishchay kare ki yahI gnAnasvabhAv hai. gnAnasvabhAvako nakkI karake phir jo upayog bAhar jAtA hai, use antaramen lIn karake upayogako antaramen sthir kare to vikalpa TUT jAte hain. 144 gAthA. buddhise nakkI karatA hai, parantu vAstavamen to antaramen hI karanekA hai. antaramen gaharAImen jAkar svabhAvako grahaN karanA hai. pahale, yahI gnAnasvabhAv hUn, aisA nakkI karake, phir par prasiddhike kAraN jo upayog bAhar jAtA hai use tU antaramen lA. antaramen upayogako sthir kar, mati- shrutagnAnakI buddhiko antaramen sthApit kar, to tere vikalpa TUT jAyenge. pahale yathArtha pratIt karatA hai. alaukik mArga antaramen hai. alaukik AtmA, usakA mArga alaukika. aur dev-guru-shAstra batAte hain vah alaukika. unhonne jo pragaT kiyA hai, (vah alaukik hai).

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!