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samAdhAna- ... bhagavAnakI paryAy, vah guN kaise ho? bhagavAn .. bechainI hai, AkulatA hai, abhI chhUTA nahIn hai, parantu use antaramense aisA nirNay ho ki mArga hAthamen AyA, isaliye bechainI kam ho jAtI hai. yahI svabhAv hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. aise. yah svabhAv hai aur yah main hUn, aise bhAvabhAsan huA isaliye usakI bechainI kam hotI hai.

mumukShu- aisA AtA hai na ki sharIr chhUT jAy to vikalpa chhUT jAya. aisI jo tIkhI bhUmi hai usamen usakI bechainI kam ho jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- bechainI kam hotI hai. vah kyA kahA? sharIr chhUT jAy, vikalpa..

mumukShu- dravyadRuShTi prakAshamenn AtA hai na ki sharIr chhUT jAy yA vikalpa TUT jAy, aisI sthiti A gayI hai.

samAdhAna- bhAvabhAsan ho to bechainI kam ho jAtI hai.

mumukShu- Apake vachanAmRutamen AtA hai, mArgakI ulajhan Tal jAtI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, mArga milane par ulajhan Tal jAtI hai.

mumukShu- bhAvabhAsanakI kachAs thI vah...

samAdhAna- nirNayamen DagamagA jAy to bhAvabhAsanakI kachAs hai. bhAvabhAsan yathArtha ho to nirNay dRuDharUp rahe. ye jo bhAv mujhe bhAsanamen AyA vah yathArtha hai. to nishchay bhI yathArtha rahe. gnAn aur shraddhAkA aisA sambandha hai. shraddhA yathArtha ho usake sAth gnAn yathArtha ho. shraddhA yathArtha ho usake sAth gnAn yathArtha hotA hai. gnAn yathArtha ho to shraddhA usake sAth dRuDh rahe.

.. jo lakShyamen AyA vah barAbar hI hai. to antarase use shAnti ho ki barAbar yahI bhAv hai. aisA andarase nishchay ho to use bhAvabhAsan yathArtha huA hai. nishchay na ho aur bhAvabhAsan ho, to bhAvabhAsanamen kachAs hai, nishchay ho rahA hai to. antar hI kah de ki yah barAbar hai.

mumukShu- nishchay nahIn hai to bhAvabhAsan nahIn hai, aisA hI huA na?

samAdhAna- hAn, to bhAvabhAsan nahIn hai. andar kachAs hai.

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mumukShu- khyAlamen Aye ki pariNati mArga par jA rahI hai yA nahIn, kaise svarUpakI or jAtI hai, kitane pramANamen jAtI hai, vah sab use khyAlamen A jAtA hai?

samAdhAna- use gnAnamen khyAl A jAtA hai. yathArtha gnAn ho to khyAlamen A jAya. ... dRuShTi aur gnAn sAthamen hI rahate hain. sAthamen kAm karate hain. dRuShTi mukhya ho, parantu gnAn usake sAth yathArthapane rahatA hai. gnAn yathArtha (ho to) usake sAth dRuShTi hotI hI hai. aise dRuShTi aur gnAn sAthameen rahe hain. usake viShayamen pharka hai. gnAn sab bhed karake jAnatA hai. dRuShTikA viShay abhed hai.

jo samyak panth par jAtA hai, usamen dRuShTi mukhya hotI hai aur usake sAth gnAn juDA rahatA hai. .. kAm karatA ho to dRuShTi usamen sAthamen hotI hI hai. pahale abhI nirNay nahIn huA ho to vichArake liye gnAn ho, abhI dRuShTi yathArtha nahIn huI ho to gnAnamen thoDI kachAs hotI hai. jo mukhya prayojanabhUt gnAn hai usamen. abhI use antaramense jo pragaT honA chAhiye usamen. buddhise nakkI kiyA vah ek alag bAt hai.

mumukShu- donon sAthamen hI hote hain, sirpha viShayamen pharka hai.

samAdhAna- sumel hai. sAth-sAth hote hain.

samAdhAna- ... bAhya sanyogako svayam badal nahIn sakatA. svayam apane bhAv... kyA yogya hai, usakA vichAr karake svayam karanA. dUsareko to svayam kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. svayam apanA bhAv kar sakatA hai. yogya kyA hai, usakA prayatna kar le, phir na ho to shAnti (rakhe).

mumukShu- achchhA ho aur dhAraNA kI ho ki hamArI jo ichchhA hai vah ho to achchhA hai. parantu aisA hotA nahIn hai. vah siddhAnta usamen jyAdA prabal hotA hai.

samAdhAna- bAharamen ichchhAnusAr kuchh hotA nahIn. svayam apanA kar sakatA hai. .. yah pAvan bhUmi hai, yahAn gurudev virAjate the. svayam vichAr karake apanA karanA hai. yahAn virAjate the, janmajayanti manAte the, vah prasang alag thA. ye to vichAr aur abhiprAyake matabhed hai. kahAn karanA aur kyA karanA vaha. samAjamen kyA.. do patrikAse lage, jo honA hogA vah hogA. achchhA hogA, aisA mAnanA. gurudevakA pratAp hai, visheSh prabhAvanA hogI, aisA mAn lenA. sulaTA artha lenA.

mumukShu- sabako jaisA lage vaisA.

samAdhAna- jo bhI lage. sab svatantra hain, sabake abhiprAyamen.

mumukShu- kahIn nukasAn honevAlA hI nahIn hai. pUrNa bharA hai.

samAdhAna- svayam labAlab bharA hai. bAharamen dev-guru-shAstramen svayamko kahAn vivek karanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. dev-guru-shAstrake prasangommen vivek kaise karanA, vah

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mumukShuke apane hAthakI bAt hai. bAkI AtmAmen to bAharase kuchh nukasAn nahIn hotA hai. dev-guru-shAstrake prasangommen use vivek Aye binA nahIn rahatA. jise AtmAkI lagI hai, aur dev-guru-shAstrake kaise prasangamen kaise vartan karanA, use vivek Aye binA rahatA hI nahIn. .. ek dravya dUsare dravyako lAbh-nukasAn nahIn karatA hai, parantu usakA vivek use ho jAtA hai, dev-guru-shAstrake prasangommen.

mumukShu- .. patrikA-lekhan to ho gayA hai, ye to mAtra us vakta...

samAdhAna- mangalasvarUp hI hai. dev-guru-shAstrake sab prasang mangalarUp hai. vah sab AtmAke dhyeyapUrvak karane yogya hai. sab mangalarUp hai. AtmAkA svarUp kaise pragaT ho, AtmAkI antaramen nirmalatA aur antarakI mangalikatA kaise pragaT ho? shubhabhAvamen gurudev mangal aur is panchamakAlamen gurudev vartamAnamen padhAre. unakA dravya koI apUrva thA ki sabako tAranemen mahAsamartha nimitta thA. gurudev mangal aur sab mangal hI hai. dev-guru-shAstra mangal aur AtmA mangal hai, usakI prAptike karaneke dhyeyase vah sa kArya mangalarUp hai. gurudevakA prabhAvanA uday mahA kalyANakArI hai.

samAdhAna- ... AtmA bhinna hai, ye chaitanyatattva bhinna hai. ye sharIr bhI bhanna hai aur bhItaramen vikalpa hotA hai vah bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. AtmA chaitanya tattva hai, usamen gnAn, Ananda, sab usamen bharA hai. bAharamen kuchh nahIn hai. antaramen dRuShTi karanese pragaT hotA hai. antaramen jAkar bhedagnAn karake usamen lIn honese svAnubhUti hotI hai. aise bAhar mAtra kriyAse nahIn hotA. antar dRuShTi karanese muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. bAharase nahIn hotA hai. jo svabhAv hai us svabhAvamense pragaT hotA hai. bAharase nahIn hotA hai. jisakA jo svabhAv hai usamense vah (pragaT hotA hai). gnAnasvabhAv AtmAmense pragaT hotA hai. darshan, chAritra sab AtmAmense hotA hai. bAharase nahIn hotA hai. aise jo vastukA svabhAv hai usamense vah pragaT hotA hai. jo chaitanyakA svabhAv hai usamen dRuShTi karanese pragaT hotA hai. svAnubhUti karanA vah muktikA mArga hai.

bhedagnAn karanese svAnubhUti (hotI hai). gurudevane vahI kahate the. mArga ek hI hotA hai janma-maraN TAlanekA. vibhAv svabhAv apanA nahIn hai. shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai, puNyabandha hotA hai, svarga milatA hai. parantu shubhabhAv bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. jaisA siddha bhagavAnakA svarUp hai vaisA AtmAkA hai. nirvikalpa tattva hai. shubhabhAv bIchamen AtA hai, parantu vah to puNyabandha hotA hai. vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. isaliye usase bhI bhinna AtmAko pahachAno, aisA gurudev kahate the. ye puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. aisI shraddhA karanA, aisA gnAn karanA. aisA karanese svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. muktikA mArga ek hI hotA hai, dUsarA nahIn hotA hai.

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mumuukShu- shuddha bhAv pragaT karanA. samAdhAna- sachchA gnAn karanA, sachchI shraddhA karanI, yathArtha. aisI lagan lage. sachchA gnAn karanA usake liye, tattvakA vichAr karanA. main bhinna hUn, ye svabhAv merA nahIn hai. aisI sachchI shraddhA karanA, sachchA gnAn karanA aur shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanA. usake liye vah karanA.

... svabhAnubhUti hotI hai. samyagdarshan hove phir munidashA bhI chhaThave-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hue kShaN-kShaNamen svAnubhUti hotI hai. muniko bhI svAnubhUti bArambAr-bArambAr svAnubhUti hotI hai. sachche muni bhI tab hote hain, jab svAnubhUti yathArtha bArambAr hotI hai tab hotI hai. usamen hI kevalagnAn hotA hai. visheSh-visheSh pragaT honese, svAnubhUti honese munidashA, kevalagnAn, sab usamen hotA hai. samyagdarshan sab isamen hotA hai. samyagdarshanase lekar munidashA, kevalagnAn sab svAnubhUtimen hotA hai.

mumukShu- gnAn to ho gayA, AtmA alag hai..

samAdhAna- sachchA bhedagnAn hotA hai, usamen Age kyA karanA vah usamen A jAtA hai. bhedagnAn huA, sharIr bhinna AtmA bhinna. usamen jo vikalpa hotA hai na? AkulatA- vikalpa usase bhI bhedagnAn karanA. sharIr to sthUl hai. bhItaramen jo vikalpa hotA hai usakA bhI bhedagnAn hotA hai. vikalpa bhI main nahIn hai, vikalpa merA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhI bhedagnAn honA, kShaN-kShaNamen jo vikalpa hote hain, usase bhedagnAn honA. usamen main gnAyak hUn aur gnAtAdhArAkI ugratA hotI hai. bhedagnAn aise bolanese nahIn hotA hai. bhedagnAn, vikalpase bhI bhedagnAn karanA. vikalpase bhedagnAn karake isamen gnAyak jo hai, main gnAyak hUn, usamen lInatA karanA, sthiratA karanA, usamen bArambAr-bArambAr bAharase upayog haTAkar AtmAmen lIn honA, bArambar Atmadarshan honA, vah karanekA hai. bhedagnAn karanese (hotA hai). jisako AtmAkA svarUp bArambAr-bArambAr Atmadarshan hotA hai. usamen A jAtA hai, bhedagnAnamen sab A jAtA hai. upayog AtmAmen lIn hotA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnalakShaN, anya dravya anya dravyake bhAv aur avasthAmen ho rahe vikArI pariNAm, usase pRuthak ho, lakShaNakA astitva vah usake gnAnamen spaShTa khyAlamen to AnA chAhiye na? gnAnamen bhinnarUpase pakaDamen to AnA chAhiye na. aur us parase aisA trikAl gnAnamUrti paripUrNa main hUn, aise andaramen ahambhAv kare to, abhI to bahut bAr aisA lagatA hai ki rAg aur gnAn mishrarUpase khyAlamen (Ate hain), spaShTarUpase ye svachchhatAmAtra so gnAn, chaitanya svachchhatAmAtra so gnAn aur yah rAg, vRuttikA .. rAg, vah bhI bahut spaShTarUpase dekhe to upayogakI sUkShmatA na ho to vah AbhAsamen khyAl nahIn AtA hai. dhAraNAse to bol le ki AtmAkA jAnapanA hai vah AtmAkA gnAn hai, vah AtmAkA

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lakShaN hai. parantu phir ahambhAv vAstavik ho sake ki main yahI hUn aur yah nahIn hUn. aisA honA kaThin lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- pariNati vibhAv-or hai. paradravya, paradravyake bhAv, vibhAvabhAv usake sAth jo gnAn hai, use upayog sthUl ho gayA hai. aur upayogakI or chaitanyako sUkShmarUpase grahaN karanA vah use buddhise grahaN kare, lekin us tarah TikAnA ki yah astitva hI main hUn, chaitanyakA astitva gnAnalakShaN so main hUn, aisA trikAl shAshvat main hUn ki yah gnAnalakShaN astitva sadAke liye svatasiddha hai. use grahaN karake TikAnA vah use or antarakI pariNati svakI or amuk prakArase pariNati muDe to dRuDh rahe, nahIn to buddhimen grahaN ho. parantu pariNati to usakI vikalpake sAth ekamek ho rahI hai. ekamek ho rahI hai isaliye use gnAnako bhinna karanA duShkar paDatA hai.

use yah gnAn so main aur yah main nahIn hUn. vaisA hI main hUn, yahI main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, aisI pariNati hameshA pragaT karanI usake liye puruShArtha ho to hotA hai. nahIn to usakA jo anAdikA veg hai, us vegamen vah chalA jAtA hai. buddhimen grahaN kiyA ki yah gnAn so main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn, use buddhimen bhUl jAy to bArambAr grahaN karatA rahe. parantu pariNati to vikalpake sAth ekamek ho rahI hai. us pariNatiko vah bhinna nahIn karatA hai, tabatak use yathArtha prakArase bhedagnAn nahIn hotA hai. bhedagnAnakI pariNati nahIn hotI hai. buddhise grahaN karatA hai. parantu bhedagnAnakI pariNati yadi ho to hI usakA bhedagnAn yathArtha hai. to usane apanA astitva yathArtha grahaN kiyA hai. nahIn to vah buddhimen grahaN karatA hai, parantu pariNati to usake sAth ekamek-ekamek hotI hI rahatI hai. jo anAdikA pravAh hai usImen chalA jAtA hai.

rAg aur gnAn, rAg aur gnAn ekasAth-ekasAth aise hI chalatA hI hai. parantu jis samay rAg aur gnAn sAthamen hai, usI kShaN yah main nahIn hUn, yah main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, aisI pariNati karaneke liye use us jAtakA sUkShma upayog aur vaise use andarase grahaN honA chAhiye. vah use ekabAr grahaN ho aise nahIn, bArambAr vah grahaN karatA hI rahe, to use sahajatA ho to andarase kuchh yathArtha bhedagnAn honekA avasar Aye. parantu ekabAr buddhimen bArambAr karatA rahe, parantu pariNati bhinna na paDe tabatak yathArtha bhedagnAn nahIn hotA. pariNati to sAth hI sAth chalatI rahatI hai. buddhimen grahaN kare parantu pariNati to aise hI kAm karatI rahatI hai. rAg aur gnAn, rAg aur gnAn sAth-sAth, sAth-sAth hotA hI rahatA hai.

jis samay rAg aur gnAn sAthamen hote hain, usI kShaN yah main gnAn hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, yah gnAn so main hUn, aur yah main nahIn hUn. is prakAr pratikShaN usakI

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pariNati bhinna karatA huA apane astitvako bArambAr grahaN kare aur usamen aise dRuDhatA kare to use sahaj honekA prasang Aye. bArambAr use is tarah grahaN kare to ho.

mumukShu- pariNati ekamek ho rahI hai, us vakta gnAn bhinna paDe to yah rAg bhinna hai, yah main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn, vah yathArthapane sachchA abhyAs ho.

samAdhAna- sachchA ho ki yah gnAn so main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn.

mumukShu- is abhyAsamen thoDI dikkat hotI hai. utanI sUkShmatA hai.. kyonki avyakta hai, upayog to vyakta hai aur astirUp hai. aur vah aise astirUp hai ki rAgase bhinna hai. isaliye jis prakArase hai us prakArase grahaN karanekA prayatna athavA to upayog sUkShmatA ho to hue binA rahe nahIn. phir bhI abhI bhI nahIn ho rahA hai, isaliye utanI ruchikI kachAs, upayogakI sUkShmatAkI kachAs, abhyAsakI kachAs athavA chaTapaTI utanI kam hai?

samAdhAna- chaTapaTI kam hai, sUkShmatA kam hai, prayatna kam hai, sab sAthamen hai. yathArtha lagan lage to yathArtha andarase puruShArtha hue binA rahe nahIn, bhinna hue binA rahe nahIn. andar sab sAthamen hai, sab kachAs sAthamen hai.

mumukShu- abhyAsase bhinna to paD sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- paD sakatA hai.

mumukShu- gnAn upayog, gnAnamen khyAlamen to pakaDamen AtA hai ki yah gnAnaupayog aur yah vRutti bhinna hai, yah rAg bhinna hai aur yah main bhinna hUn, aisA abhyAs kare to bhinna to paD sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- bhinna paD sakatA hai. abhyAs bArambAr kare to bhinna paD sakatA hai. parantu vah bArambAr abhyAs karatA nahIn hai. buddhise nakkI karake chhoD detA hai. bArambAr abhyAs karanemen use shram paDatA hai, use mehanat paDatI hai, bArambAr vaisI utanI tIkhI ruchi nahIn hai ki yah merI jarUrat hI hai, aisA tIkhA nahIn hai isaliye vah prayatna kam karatA hai, nahIn karatA hai. usake liye sUkShmatA karake kShaN-kShaNamen main yah bhinna hI hUn, aisA prayatna to ho sakatA hai, parantu vah karatA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- AdhA ghaNTA, ek ghaNTA lagAtAr baiThakar isIko gnAnako bhinna gnAnamen leneke liye ekAd ghaNTA baiThA, phir bhI us gnAnako jaise gnAnamen bhinna lenA hai us prakArase gnAnamen bhinnarUpase nahIn AtA hai. aur pahalese main bhinna hUn, aisA Upar-Uparase chalA jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- thoDI der use vichAramen Ave, phir jo bhI ho vichArommen amuk prakArakI sthUlatA ho jAtI hai isaliye chalA jAtA hai. aisA hotA hai.

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mumukShu- koI bAr to aisA lagatA hai ki aise hI kAl vyatIt ho jAyagA.

samAdhAna- aise sthUl ho jAy to bhI bArambAr usakA abhyAs karatA rahe to ho sakatA hai. thoDI der kare, utanemen upayog sthUl ho jAy, Tik sake nahIn. thoDA vichAr karane utanemen.

mumukShu- nahIn to aisI sthiti hai ki bAharamen jo kuchh kAm hai utanA vikalpa Aye, ghar baiThanemen to dUsarA koI vichAr nahIn hai, kuchh nahIn hai, isaliye dhUn bhI yah rahatI hai. phir bhI jitanA chAhiye us jAtakA, abhI bhI aisA lagatA hai ki gnAn gnAnamen bhinna paDe to kuchh garamI A jAy ki yah main hUn aur yah bhinna hai. to vah abhyAs jyAdA karanekA..

samAdhAna- jyAdA karanekI use andaramen garamI Aye. vichAr karanese upayog phirase sthUl ho jAya. sthUl ho jAy isaliye use bAr-bAr sUkShma karaneke liye bArambAr dRuShTi karanI paDe. thak jAy, prayatna kam ho jAy, bArambAr kare...

mumukShu- ek ghaNTA, do ghaNTA chalA.. phir

samAdhAna- thakAn, bAharase thakAn nahIn, antaramense. Age chale nahIn isaliye dUsare vichAr A jAya. bhale jAnaneke vichAr Aye, parantu grahaN karanemen use upayog sUkShma karanA paDe, utanA dhIrA hokar grahaN karanA paDe to hotA hai. aisI mehanat to use pratham bhUmikAmen chalatI hI rahe. kyonki jab tak grahaN nahIn huA hai, shrImad kahate hain na, pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. isaliye pahale use jignAsAkI bhUmikAmen mehanat chalatI rahe. jabatak grahaN nahIn ho jAtA tabataka.

mumukShu- gnAn bhinna paD jAy, gnAn gnAnamen abhyAs-prayatna kare to ..

samAdhAna- prayatnase bhinna paD sakatA hai. svayam hI hai, apanA svabhAv hai. isaliye bhinna to paD sakatA hai. ananta mokShamen gaye, bhedagnAn karake hI gaye hain. bhedagnAnake abhyAsase. bhedagnAnake abhyAsamen dravya par dRuShTi, bhedagnAn Adi sab usamen samA jAtA hai. dravya par dRuShTi kare isaliye usamen bhedagnAn A jAtA hai. yah main chaitanya hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn. aise dRuShTi aur gnAn donon sAthamen A jAte hain. main yah chaitanya hUn, merA astitva svatasiddha yah main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn. donon usamen sAthamen A jAte hain. abhyAs karanese ho sakatA hai. ekadam ho jAy vah kisIko hI hotA hai. bahubhAg abhyAs karanese hotA hai.

chhoTIpIpar ghisate-ghisate gurudev kahate the ki charaparAI pragaT hotI hai. chhAchh aur makkhan sab ikaTThA ho to manthan karate-karate makkhan bAhar AtA hai. chhAchhako bilone par makkhan andarase bhinna paD jAtA hai.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!