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samAdhAna- ... do tattva bhinna hain. chaitanyatattva bhinna hai aur yah jaD tattva bhinna hai. do dravya hI bhinna haiain. dravyako bhinna-bhinna jAne, usakA bhedagnAn kare to ataramen use jo ekatvabuddhi hai, us kAraNase use jo AkulatA hotI hai, vah AkulatA chhUT jAya. AkulatAsvarUp AtmA hai hI nahIn. AkulatA bhinna aur AtmA bhinna hai. AtmA to shAntisvarUp hai. aise usakA bhedagnAn kara.

main bhinna chaitanya gnAyak hUn. shAnti meremen hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai. shAnti, Ananda, gnAn Adi ananta guNonse bharapUr AtmA hai, usakA bhedagnAn kara. gnAyakakI dhUn lagAkar gnAtAdhArAkI ugratA kara. usImen lInatA, usImen prayatna. ananta kAlase jo yah ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye yah bandha aur janma-maraN hai. ekatvabuddhi TUTakar, antaramen bhedagnAn karake chaitanyako bhinna jAnanA, vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. aur vahI ek dhyey rakhane jaisA hai. gnAyak AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye, vahI karane jaisA hai.

us gnAtAmen sab bharA hai. gnAyak sahaj svabhAv hai. vah svabhAv use kahIn bAhar lene nahIn jAnA paDatA. bAharase lene jAtA hai vah apanemen kuchh nahIn AtA. vah to paravastu hai. paravastumen-se kuchh nahIn AtA. paramen shAnti nahIn hai, paramen Ananda nahIn hai, paramen gnAn nahIn hai. jo hai, vah nij svarUpamen hai. us svarUpamen-se pragaT ho aisA hai. parakI kartAbuddhi-mAnon main parako kar sakatA hUn, par merA kar sakatA hai, main usamen pheraphAr kar sakatA hUn, vah sab bhramaNAbuddhi hai. parakA to jaisA honA hotA hai vaise hotA hai. jo vedanA AnI hai vah AtI hai. vastukA svarUp hI aisA hai.

svayam nij svabhAvakA kar sakatA hai. svayam gnAn, Ananda Adi ananta guNonse bharapUr AtmA hai, use pragaT kar sakatA hai. use pragaT karanemen dev-guru-shAstra nimitta hote hain. parantu vah jAgRut, svayam upAdAn taiyAr ho to ho. ananta kAlase jIv AtmAko pahachAnatA nahIn hai. aisemen koI guru athavA dev mile, unakI deshanA mile use svayam grahaN kare aur antaramen-se svayam puruShArtha kare to vah pragaT ho sake aisA hai.

jIvanamen ek gnAyak AtmA vahI grahaN karane jaisA hai. gurudev to vahAn tak kahate the ki anek jAtake jo guNabhed paDate hain, pAnch gnAnake bhed paDe, pAnch bhAvonke bhed

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paDe, ek pAriNAmikabhAvasvarUp main hUn, ek gnAnasvarUp main hUn. bhed par dRuShTi mat kara. un sab bhedonko gauN kara. gnAnamen tU sab jAna. parantu ek akhaNDa chaitanya par dRuShTi kar, usakA gnAn kar aur usamen lInatA kara. chaitanyamen shAnti, Ananda sab bharA hai. aur vahI pragaT karane jaisA hai. vah kaise pragaT ho? tadartha usakA vichAr, vAnchan, usakI lagan, usakA anek jAtakA shrutakA chintavan Adi karake andar yathArtha nishchay karake ki main bhinna hI hUn aur ye sab parapadArtha hain. vibhAvabhAv hote hain vah bhI nij svabhAv nahIn hai. paryAy bhI pratikShaN badalatI hai. shAshvat svarUp AtmA akhaNDa dravya hai us par dRuShTi karane jaisI hai. paryAy, guN gnAnamen jAne. parantu dRuShTi to ek AtmA par karane jaisI hai aur vahI jIvanakA (kartavya), vahI dhyey honA chAhiye. vahI muktikA mArga. gurudevane param upakAr kiyA hai. aur vahI sArabhUt AtmA hai, use grahaN karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! ApakI mudra dekhate hain, ApakI vANI sunate hain tab to aisA lagatA hai, mAnon AtmA hamen prApta ho jAtA ho, aisA..

samAdhAna- puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai. usakI ruchi ho, usakI mahimA ho parantu puruShArtha to usako svayamko karanA hai.

mumukShu- kShetrase itane dUr Aye hain, phir bhI sabhI mumukShuonko isakI mukhyatA to hamen dekhane milatI hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane jo yah mArga batAyA hai, vahI karanA hai.

mumukShu- yah bAt hI kahAn thI.

samAdhAna- yah bAt hI kahAn thI. muumukShu- jis sampradAyamen ho, vahAn dharma mAne, isamen dharma mAne, usamen dharma mAne.

samAdhAna- bAharase dharma mAnA thA.

mumukShu- ek bAr Ap kahate the, hamen to jo bhI milA hai, sonagaDhase gurudevase hI prApta huA hai, kahIn aurase hamen nahIn milA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane hI sabako diyA hai. aur gurudevane yahAn sAdhanA kI to yah kShetra... shAstramen AtA hai na? kShetra bhI mangal hai.

mumukShu- yah bhUmi bhI mangal hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, mangal hai. tIrtha hai. vah bhUmi tIrtha kahalAtI hai. gurudev to sarvotkRuShTa the. karanA to vahI hai, gurudevane kahA vaha. ye sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, sab gurudevane batAyA hai. do dravya bhinna hain. vibhAvasvabhAvase bhI bhinna paDanekA gurudevane kahA hai.

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gnAyak AtmA antar gnAn aur Anandase bharA hai, use pahachAno, usamen dRuShTi karo, usamen lInatA karo. jo kahA hai vah karanekA hai. vah na ho tabatak usakA vichAr, vAnchan, manan, usakI lagan sab vahI karanekA hai. bAhar shubhabhAv Aye to dev-guru- shAstrakI mahimA Adi. antaramen dhyey ek AtmAkA ki AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? AtmAkA bhedagnAn kaise ho? vah karanekA hai. AtmA antaramen nirvikalpa tattva hai, use kaise pahachAnA jAy? svAnubhUti kaise pragaT ho? bahut log AphrikAmen bahut hain na?

mumukShu- hAn, hamAre jyAdA ... AphrikAmen hain. pahale hamAre pAse svAdhyAy hol nahIn thA, kuchh nahIn thA. makAnamen baiThakar svAdhyAy karate the, basa. phir yah sab ho gayA. gurudevane sabhI par karuNA barasAkar lAbh de rahe hain. is umramen, 90 sAlakI umramen.

samAdhAna- sab par karuNA barasAyI.

mumukShu- ek mahinA nAIrobImen jayakAr, chAron or bastImen ullAs, ullAs, ullAsa.

samAdhAna- kahAn AphrikA, vahAn gurudev padhAre vah to bahut lAbhakA kAraN huA.

mumukShu- ... bAt karate the. sahaj-sahaj satyamen A gaye, bahut abhinandana. jeThAbhAI kahe to hI ho, na kahe to ...

samAdhAna- hAn. unakA..

mumukShu- jeThAbhAI hain aur unakI hAn hai to hI...

samAdhAna- .. AtmAke liye hai.

mumukShu- ek-ek jagah, ek-ek gharamen...

mumukShu- yah kShetra-bhUmi hai na, apane liye to .. bhUmi hai. gurudevane sabako batAyA hai.

samAdhAna- .. sambandha hotA hai na. mahApuruShonkI bhUmi bhI (aisI hotI hai ki) andar AtmAke vichAronkI sphuraNA ho.

mumukShu- ham log jis deshamen rahate hain, un logonke vichAr, gujarAtIonke vichAr bhI hamAre jaise sAdA, sIdhA, sarala. bahut saral vichAr sabake. ek hI matase, ek hI vichArase jo karanA hai karo. AphrikAmen kahAn yah bAt mile? kahAn mandir banAye? svAdhyAy mandir banAye, .. banAye. lekin samay samayakA kArya karatA hai.

mumukShu- madhyasthatA, saralatA aur jitendriyapanA tattva prApta karanekA uttam pAtra hai. mumukShu- ... sat sAhitya mile, satya vANI mile, tattvagnAnakI bAt mile. parantu kuTumba-parivArakA moh hai na.

samAdhAna- jaisI apanI taiyArI ho vaise ho. jignAsA taiyAr karate rahanA.

mumukShu- ... rahA kare ki har sAl vahAn lAbh leneko jAnA. lekin bahut

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bAr sharIr-prakRitike kAraN (AnA nahIn hotA).

mumukShu- trikAlIkA anubhav nahIn hotA. paryAyakA anubhav hotA hai. in logonkA jUThA lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- dravya apekShAse trikAl mukhya hai, vastu apekShAse. vedanakI apekShAse vah mukhya hai. dRuShTi to shAshvat par hI mukhya hai. dRuShTi to shAshvat par, dRuShTi to ek chaitanya par rakhanese hI shuddhaparyAy pragaT hotI hai. dRuShTi to pahalese Akhir tak usakI dRuShTi to shuddhAtmA dravya par (hotI hai). jo shAshvat dravya hai, jo palaTatA nahIn, jisamen pheraphAr hotA nahIn, aise dravya par hI dRuShTi, usakI mukhyatA hai.

phir paryAyako mukhya apekShAse (kahate hain). use vedanamen, anubhavake samay vedanamen svAnubhUti mukhya hotI hai, to bhI usakI dravya par dRuShTi hai vah to sAth hI rahatI hai. to paryAyake vedanakI apekShAse use mukhya kahanemen AyA hai. isaliye usamen dRuShTiko nikAl nahIn denI hai, parantu us vakta use paryAy vedanamen mukhya hai, isaliye vedanakI apekShAse use mukhya kahanemen AyA hai.

vedanamen paryAy AtI hai isaliye. vedanamen dravya nahIn AtA hai. to bhI dRuShTi to dravya par hI rahatI hai. dRuShTi chhUT jAy to muktikA mArga hI chhUT jAya. to mokShakA mArga jo pragaT huA hai, vahI chhUT jAya. dRuShTi to dravya par hamenshA rahanI chAhiye. vedanakI apekShAse paryAyako us vakta mukhya kahanemen AyA hai. vedan apekShAse. anubhUti-vedan, paryAyakI anubhUti hotI hai isaliye.

dravyakA svarUp kaisA hai, AtmAke guN kaise hain, usakI svAnubhUti kaisI hai, vah sab vedanamen AtA hai. us apekShAse vedanako mukhya kahA hai. isaliye usamen dravyakA lakShya chhoDanA, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai.

mumukShu- vah rakhakar hai, dRuShTi aur lakShyako rakhakar hai.

samAdhAna- vah rakhakar hai.

mumukShu- maryAdit bAt hai.

samAdhAna- maryAdit bAt hai. dRuShTi apekShAse dRuShTi mukhya hai aur gnAn use jAnatA hai isaliye gnAnakI apekShAse gnAn mukhya hai, us vakta.

mumukShu- vedan mukhya kahakar (puruShArthako) utthAn karanekA koI prakAr hai?

samAdhAna- utthAn karanekA nahIn hai. use vedanamen paryAy hI AtI hai. vedanamen use dravyakA vedan nahIn hotA. parantu paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. un paryAyonkA vedan hotA hai, usakA gnAn karavAneko aur vedanakA gnAn karaneke liye hai. utthAn to dravyadRuShTise hI utthAn hotA hai.

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mumukShu- mukhya karanA, vah kisake sAth milAn karake mukhya karanA? jo vedanako mukhya kahA, vaise dRuShTi to mukhya hai to usamen to paryAyake sAth milAn karake kahen ki dRuShTi dravya par mukhya hai. to ab, jo vedanako mukhya kahA, to vah kisake sAth milAn karake kahA?

samAdhAna- use mukhya kahA (kyonki), dravya jo hai vah vedanamen nahIn AtA hai. isaliye vedanakI apekShAse use mukhya kahA. dravya vedanamen nahIn AtA hai, isaliye vedanakI apekShAse mukhya hai.

mumukShu- kyonki dravya vedanamen AtA nahIn.

samAdhAna- dravya vedanamen nahIn AtA hai, isaliye vedanakI apekShAse (use mukhya kahA). bAkI dRuShTi to har jagah sAth hI rahatI hai. dravya vedanamen nahIn AtA hai, isaliye vedanakI apekShAse vah mukhya hai. AtmA kab gnAt huA? AtmA kab kahA jAy? ki vedanamen AyA taba. vedanamen AyA tab vAstavik AtmA. aisA kahanemen AtA hai. kevalagnAnarUp pariNamA taba. vAstavik AtmA kab kahalAyA? ki jaisA hai vaisA pragaT huA taba. isaliye vedanakI apekShAse use mukhya kahanemen AyA. us apekShAse dRuShTiko gauN kI. parantu dRuShTi to sAthamen mukhya rahatI hai. vedanakI apekShAse dRuShTiko gauN kI. dRuShTamen to AyA jaisA thA vaisA. parantu vah jaisA hai vaisA kAryarUp pariNamit nahIn huA hai to AtmA jaisA hai vaisA kArya nahIn kiyA hai. to vah kis kAmakA? isaliye jaisA hai vaisA jab pragaT huA, tab vah vAstavik AtmA hai.

vedanamen AyA vahI vAstavik AtmA. vahAn Anshik anubhav huA, vahAn RujusUtranay kahate hain, vahAn pUrNa huA to evambhUtanayakI apekShAse kahate hain. bAkI sAdhanAmen ... dRuShTi dravya par hai to bhI kaise svarUp ramaNatA prApta karun, vItarAgatA prApta karun, AtmAkI svAnubhUtikI visheShatA prApta karun, aisI sab bhAvanA use hotI hai. sAdhakadashAmen AtI hai. parantu usake sAth dRuShTi honI chAhiye. dRuShTi binA sirpha bhAvanA kare to bhAvanAkA jor, dRuShTi binA usakA jor Age nahIn chalatA. dRuShTi sAthamen ho to hI bhAvanAkA bal (rahatA hai). dRuShTike sAth bhAvanA. aisI paryAy pragaT honekI bhAvanA ho. kaise chAritradashA prApta ho, kaise kevalagnAn prApta ho, svAnubhUtikI visheShatA kaise ho, aisI sab bhAvanA, paryAy pragaT karanekI bhAvanA hotI hai. parantu dRuShTiko sAthamen rakhakar AtI hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTi binAkI bhAvanA to rUkhI bhAvanA ho gayI.

samAdhAna- hAn, vah bhAvanA jor nahIn kar sakatI. jor nahI kar sakatI. antim bolamen liyA na? vAstavik AtmA kab? ki paryAy pragaT huyI vah AtmA. antim bolamen vah hai na. alingagrahaNamen vah AtA hai.

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mumukShu- dravyase nahIn Alingit aisI shuddha paryAy vah AtmA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, aisI shuddha paryAy vah AtmA hai, aisA kahA hai. kyonki jaisA hai vaisA, guN-paryAy jaise hain vaise anubhavamen Aye, isaliye vah vAstavik AtmA hai. dRuShTi to usane labdharUpamen sthApI hai, parantu pragaT upayogAtmakarUp nahIn hai. isaliye jo upayogAtmakarUp pariNamA vah AtmA hai.

mumukShu- .. usakI visheShatA..

samAdhAna- hAn, usakI visheShatA us prakArase. visheShatA to hai. dRuShTi to huyI, parantu dRuShTiko kArya prApta karaneke sAth bhAvanA rahatI hai. dRuShTise kare, dRuShTimen sAthamen sAdhanAkA bal Aye vahI sachchI dRuShTi hai. sAdhanAkA bal sAthamenn na Aye to sachchI dRuShTi hI nahIn hai.

dRuShTikA hetu kyA hai? ki vah shuddhAtmA prApta kaise ho? vah hetu hai. AtmAko pahachAnanekA hetu kyA? ye vibhAvaparyAy chhUTakar shuddhAtmAkI paryAyen prApta hon, aisA usakA hetu hai. dravya par dRuShTi karanekA.

mumukShu- prayojanakI mukhyatA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, prayojanakI mukhyatA vahI hai ki dravya par dRuShTi sthApakar usakA kArya vah AnA chAhiye ki svAnubhUti prApta ho. usakA kArya vah AnA chAhiye. dRuShTi dRuShTirUpase usakA kuchh kArya na Aye, to vah dRuShTi hI nahIn hai. use dRuShTike sAth kArya AnA chAhiye. use nishchay huA usake sAth Anshik vyavahAr to use prApta honA chAhiye, paryAyako, shuddhAtmAkI paryAy prApta honI chAhiye. phir usake puruShArtha anusAr (hotA hai). koI bAr vah vyavahAr paryAyako mukhya karake (kahate hain). jo pragaT huA vah AtmA. dRuShTiko gauN karate hain us vakta. usakA viShay mukhya hai. kArya apekShAse ise mukhya kahe. jaisA dRuShTimen, jo usakA dhyey thA vah kArya AyA, isaliye us kAryako mukhya kahA.

mumukShu- bahut sundara.

samAdhAna- munidashAkI prApti ho, chAritradashA, gnAn-darshan-chAritrakI ekatA ho, vah pragaT huA. tab bhI dRuShTi to hai, parantu vah pUjanik... pragaTatAmen pUjanikatAmen tab Aye ki jab use pragaT chAritrakA pariNaman hotA hai taba.

mumukShu- AcharaN..

samAdhAna- AcharaN pradhAnatA. AcharaNamen Ave to use kArya AyA. dRuShTi to hai, parantu kArya AyA. (dansaN mUlo) dhammo. samyagdarshan mUl hai. vahAn chAritra khalU dhammo AyA. chAritra vah dharma hai. AcharaNakI apekShAse. dRuShTikA kArya Aye.

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mumukShu- chAritra hai vah dRuShTikA kArya hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, dRuShTikA kArya vah AnA chAhiye.

mumukShu- gajab bAten hain ye saba.

samAdhAna- hAn. aisA hai. .. kAl lage, parantu dRuShTikA kArya vah AnA chAhiye. to hI yathArtha dRuShTi hai. to hI usakA samyagdarshan, svAnubhUti (yathArtha hai). usakA kArya AnA hI chAhiye. rAjA rAjAke kAryarUp pariName to rAjA, aise. vaise AtmA AtmAke kAryarUp pariName vah AtmA.

mumukShu- ek or aisA kahe ki, paradravyamen, parabhAvan, heyan iti. aur dUsarI or aisA kahe isaliye...

samAdhAna- vah sab sandhi hai.

mumukShu- paryAyako utanI gauN karavAyI! kShAyikabhAv Adi chAron bhAv parabhAv, hey?

samAdhAna- dRuShTimen sab nikAl diye. kShAyikabhAv bhI. kevalagnAn bhI ek paryAyakA bhed hai. ek dravya par dRuShTi karanI. udayabhAv, upasham, kShayopasham aur kShAyika. ek pAriNAmikabhAv par dRuShTi kara. dRuShTimen utanA jor hai ki koI apekShA.. jisamen apUrNa- pUrNa paryAyakI bhI apekShA nahIn hai. aisA anAdiananta dravya jo shAshvat kRutakRutya dravya hai, dRuShTi vaisI hai.

(phir bhI, paryAyamen) jo shuddhatA, ashuddhatA hai usakA khyAl hai. shuddhatA prApta karanI hai. paryAyamen gnAnamen sab khyAl hai. dRuShTi, aisA akhaNDa, main pUrNa dravya hUn, aisI dRuShTi hai. kevalagnAnakI paryAy par bhI dRuShTi nahIn hai. kyonki vah bAdamen pragaT hotI hai. yah anAdiananta dravya jo shaktirUp hai, vahI main (hUn). dRuShTi aisI joradAr hai. koI paryAyamen aTakatA nahIn, parantu vedanamen sab AtA hai ki ye paryAy mujhe pragaT huyI, yA vah huyI, usamen dRuShTi kahIn nahIn aTakatI. sab jo apUrNa paryAy nikal jAy, shuddha paryAy pragaT ho usamen pUrNa shuddha paryAy pragaT ho, un sabakA vedan hotA hai. us vedanarUp pariNamA vah vAstavik AtmA hai. apanA mUl svarUp thA, vah usane pragaT kiyA.

... ek dravya par dRuShTi karake, phir vah dRuShTi karake karanA kyA? sAdhanA karaneke liye vah dRuShTi hai. dravya par dRuShTi karake, phir main shuddhAtmA anAdiananta hUn. ye vibhAv (main nahIn hUn). apUrNa, pUrNa paryAy jitanA bhI main nahIn hUn, main to pUrNa shuddhAtmA hUn. dRuShTi karake phir kArya to shuddha paryAyako pragaT karanekA kArya lAnA hai. kArya na Aye to dRuShTi nahIn hai.

mumukShu- (kArya na Aye to) usakA koI artha nahIn hai.

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samAdhAna- usakA koI artha nahIn hai. mumukShu- kArya Aye to hI vah sachchI dRuShTi hai. samAdhAna- kArya Aye to hI sachchI dRuShTi hai. antarase shAnti pragaT ho. mumukShu- phir bhI lakShya kArya par nahIn hotA. samAdhAna- lakShya kArya par nahIn hai ki ye paryAy pragaT huyI aur vah paryAy pragaT huyI, usamenn dRuShTi rukatI nahIn. usakA vedan hotA hai, parantu main pUrNa bharA huA, pUrNa bharA hUn. ek-ek paryAy pragaT ho, pUrNa paryAy pragaT ho to, usase bhI ananta mere dravyamen bharA hai. kevalagnAnakI paryAy kShaN-kShaNamen pariNamatI rahatI hai. ek vartamAn samayakI paryAy pragaT ho, to yah mujhe pragaT huyI, aise usamen rukatA nahIn. usase anantagunA dravyamen bharA hai. dravya par, dRuShTi to dravya par hai. kevalagnAnakI paryAy ek samayakI hai, usase anantagunI shakti dravyamen bharI hai. kyonki vah to kShaN-kShaNamen, kShaN-kShaNamen pariNamatA rahatA hai, dravya to.