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mumukShu- ... sat saral hai, sugam hai, satpuruSh milane chAhiye. usamen satpuruShakA...

samAdhAna- is kAlamen aise satpuruSh gurudev mile, mahAbhAgya!

mumukShu- yah mArga batAyA.

samAdhAna- unakI vANI koI adabhut thI.

mumukShu- bhagavAn AtmA, bhagavAn AtmA.. dAdaravAlonne likhA hai na? bhagavAn AtmAkI pukAr hai, ham to pAmar hain. bhagavAn AtmAkI pukAr sunakar padhAranA. ham to koI nahIn hai, pAmar hain.

samAdhAna- .. gurudev mile aur vastukA svarUp (darshAyA ki) tU chaitanya bhagavAn hai. aisA kahanevAle is kAlamen mile, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- kriyAkANDamen chaDh gayA thA, bahinashrI bAr-bAr kahate hain. kriyAkANDamen chaDh gayA thA, usamen bhAvapradhAn, shuddha pariNatipradhAn aur gnAyakapradhAn, vahAn taka.

samAdhAna- sab kriyAmen hI dharma mAnate the, antar par dRuShTi kahAn thI. thoDe upavAs kar le, thoDA dhokh le aur paDh le, aisA kar le to dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate the. gurudevane kahAn antar dRuShTi karavAyI. bAhya kriyA, vah to nahIn, parantu andar shubh pariNAm ho vah bhI terA svabhAv nahIn hai. bIchamen shubh pariNAm Ate to hai, lekin vah terA svabhAv nahIn hai. tU shuddhAtmA hai. antaramen guNake bhed paDe use jAnanA, gnAn sab karanA, paryAyake, guNake bhedakA sab gnAn karanA, dRuShTi ek AtmA par rakhanI, ek abhed AtmA para. jAnanA, guNakA bhed, AtmAmen ananta guN hain, usakA gnAn karanA, paryAyakA gnAn karanA, lekin bhed par rukanA mata. dRuShTi AtmA par karanA. gurudevane kitanI sUkShma bAt karake apUrva rItase sabako batAyA hai.

mumukShu- gurudevane nihAl kar diyA. ... ye bAt samajhAnI aur itanA prakAsh jAgRut kiyA. nahIn to sab sampradAyamen paDe the.

samAdhAna- hAn. sampradAyamen chaDhe the.

mumukShu- kriyAkANDamen dharma mAnA thA.

samAdhAna- kriyAkANDamen dharma (mAnA thA). shubhabhAvakI bhI kisIko mAlUm nahIn

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thA, mAtra kriyA, itanA hI mAlUm thA.

mumukShu- kamajor hai, nahIn to aisA kyon bane?

samAdhAna- panchamakAl hai.

mumukShu- itane log Ate hain, sunate hain, dekhate hain ki gurudevakI vANI athavA gurudevakA tattva kyA thA. phir bhI dUsarI pravRuttimen paD jAte hain.

samAdhAna- gurudevane to ek shuddhAtmA par dRuShTi karaneko kahA hai. ek AtmA andar tU dekh, koI apUrva hai. panchamakAl hai na, sab chalatA hai. bhagavAnakI aur munionkI vANI sunakar kShaN-kShaNamen antarmuhUrtamen samyagdarshan prApta kar le. kShaN-kShaNamen, antarmuhUrtamen. koI munidashA prApta kar le, aisA kAl thA. vah kAl alag thA. yahAn to abhI samyagdarshanakA nAm aur usakI bAt sunane milanA mushkil, bAt sune to prApta karanA durlabh, aisA yah kAl ho gayA hai. mahApuNyake kAraN gurudevase bAt sunane milI, samyagdarshanakI aur svAnubhUtikI. usakI ruchi, anek jIvonko gurudevake pratApase ruchi jAgRut huyI. .. mushkil, gurudevake pratApase ruchi jAgRut huyI.

mumukShu- pahale to is or muDanA mushkil thA. gurudevake pratApase kitane jIv is or muDe.

samAdhAna- kitane muD gaye.

mumukShu- phir bhI apane .. baiThe hain... hai, panchamakAl to anAdi kAlakA hai. visheShatA yah hai, visheShatA isakI hai.

mumukShu- gurudev dekar gaye hain, gurudev kah gaye hain ki mAtAjI virAjate hain, tab tak spaShTIkaraN AtA hai. Apake liye abhI bhI ek maukA hai. apane liye to ... aisA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane sabako jAgRut kiyA hai. pUre hindustAnamen, bhAratamen sabako jAgRut kar diyA.

mumukShu- paradeshamen.

samAdhAna- hAn, desh-videsh, AphrikAmen har jagah, vilAyatamen har jagaha. kitanA prachAr huA. pahale vah Ate the, samayasAr Adi paDhate hain to nInd AtI hai. aisA bolate the. pahale shurUAtamen. aur vah paNDit to aisA kahe ki AtmAkI bAt Aye use ham chhoD dete the. chidAnanda AdikI bAt Aye.

mumukShu- kailAshachandrajI bhAShaNamen bole the.

samAdhAna- hAn, kailAshachandrajI paNDitane bhAShaNamen bole. ek koI bhAI the, vah kahate the, samayasAr paDhe to nInd AtI hai. aisA koI kahatA thA. kailAshachandrajI paNDit

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kahate the, chidAnanda AtmA aisA Aye to ham chhoD dete the. yahAn isakI bAt hai, ye to AtmAkI bAt hai.

mumukShu- vah to varNan kiyA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, aisA karake (chhoD dete the).

mumukShu- tiryak prachay aur Urdhva prachay, vah Aye to usakA varNan karate. gnAnaghan Anandakand Aye to chalane de. ye to varNan kiyA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevake pratApase abhI sabako adhyAtmakI itanI ruchi (ho gayI hai). sab vAnchan karane (lage). sab striyAn vAnchan kare. bhagavAnajIbhAIkI aurat bechAre vAnchan kare. utanA vAnchan kare utanI ruchi hai na. .. chale jAte. Tep Adi...

AtmA andar chaitanya svarUp AtmA hai, gnAyak hai. ananta guNase bharA AtmA hai. us AtmAmen Ananda, ananta guN sab AtmAmen bharA hai. vah kaise pahachAnamen Aye aur kaise pragaT ho, usake liye yah sab karanekA hai. yah sharIr bhinna hai. andar vibhAvasvabhAv AtmAkA nahIn hai. antaramen AtmAkI pahachAn kaise ho? bAr-bAr usakA vichAr, vAnchan vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI lagan, mahimA Adi.

shAstramen AtA hai na? sphaTik to svabhAvase nirmal hai, parantu usamen lAl-pIle phUl dikhate hain isaliye malin dikhatA hai. vaise AtmA svabhAvase to nirmal hai. mUl vastumen to kahIn malinatA hotI nahIn. parantu vibhAvako nimitta hai, karmakA nimitta hai. puruShArthakI mandatAse svayam usamen juDatA hai isaliye vibhAv hotA hai, apanA mUl svabhAv to nahIn hai. parantu usakI dRuShTi,.. AtmA nirmal svabhAv hai, us par dRuShTi kare, usakA bhedagnAn kare to vibhAv chhUT jAtA hai. pahale usakA bhedagnAn ho, phir usamen lInatA baDhate-baDhate vah chhUT jAtA hai. upAy to ek hI hai.

shivabhUti muniko jyAdA nahIn AtA thA. bhUl jAte the. mAtuSh aur mAruSha. gurune kahA, kahIn rAg nahIn karanA, dveSh nahIn karanA. bhUl gaye. phir gurune kyA kahA thA? vah bhAI dAl dho rahI thI. gurune kahA, dAl bhinna aur chhilakA bhinna. vah dAl dho rahI hai. aisA gurune kahA thA ki, AtmA bhinna aur ye vibhAv bhinna, mere gurune aisA kahA thA. aisA karake antaramen bhedagnAn karake antaramen itanI ugratA kI, gnAyakakI dhArAkI itanI ugratA karI. aur ugratA karake andar dRuShTi aisI sthApit kar dI, ugratAmen bhedagnAn aur usamen unakI pariNati aisI ugra ho gayI ki, kevalagnAn pragaT kar liyA. utanA puruShArtha antaramen, antarmuhUrtamen utanA puruShArtha kiyA.

shubhabhAv, shubhAshubh donon bhAv AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai, to munipanA munion kisake Ashrayase pAlenge? usamen AtA hai. panch mahAvrat Adi sab shubh kahate ho to panch

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mahAvratake AdhArake binA munipanA kaise pAle? munion apane chaitanyake AdhArase munipanA pAlate haiain. unakI svAnubhUtike AdhArase (pAlate hain). bArambAr apane svAnubhavamen-amRutarasamen lIn hote hain. usake Ashrayase munipanA pAlate hain. usamen unhen shubhabhAv panch mahAvrat to bIchamen Ate hain. parantu usakA Ashray ho to hI munipanA pale, aisA nahIn hai. lekin svAnubhUtikA jo Ananda hai, jo svAnubhUti kShaN-kShaNamen pragaT hotI hai, usake Ashrayase munipanA pAlate hain.

ata pahale shraddhA to barAbar aisI karanI ki donon bhAv hain, usase main bhinna nirvikalpa tattva hUn. bIchamen ye shubhabhAv Ate to hain, lekin vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. dRuShTi to chaitanya par sthApit karake, main to sarvase bhinna chaitanya bhinna hUn. dRuShTi to barAbar aise dRuDh karanI. phir bIchamen shubhabhAv Aye vah dUsarI bAt hai. aise prArambhamen dev-guru-shAstra, vah sab pariNAm to sAthamen hote hain. parantu main chaitanya sarvase bhinna nirAlA hUn. dRuShTi to vah karane jaisI hai.

mumukShu- .. jIvako kyon ... yah hamAre balubhAI kahate hain.

samAdhAna- anAdikA abhyAs hai. bAharakI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. isaliye usamense bhinna honA mushkil paDatA hai. buddhise nakkI karatA hai ki main bhinna hUn. parantu antaramense pariNati bhinna nahIn karatA hai. usase pariNatiko bhinna nahIn karatA hai. isaliye aise hI chalA jAtA hai.

... tU bhagavAn AtmA, tU bhagavAn AtmA bArambAr kahate the. parantu vah andaramen dRuDh karanA, pratIt bhale hI svayamko Ave, parantu andarase bhinna karanA AtmAkI pariNati bhinna karake, vah svayamko karanA hai. yah dravya chaitanya hai, ye usake guN hain, ye usakI paryAy hai. kahate hain na, jo bhagavAn AtmAko jAne,.... jo jinavarako jAne vah svayamko jAnatA hai. aise nakkI kare ki main yahI hUn. aisA dRuDh nishchay karake usakA puruShArtha kare ki jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA hai, vaisA hI merA AtmA hai. aisA nakkI karake puruShArtha kare to ho. nakkI karake, buddhimen nakkI kiyA, parantu puruShArtha to karanA paDatA hai. usakI pariNatiko bhinna karanA bAkI rahatA hai. ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai.

nij chaitanyamen dRuShTiko sthApit karanA bAkI rahatA hai. puna, ek bAr karake chhoD de, aisA nahIn. kShaN-kShaNamen use yAd karatA rahe, use mahimAse yAd karatA rahe. use shuShka ho jAy, aise nahIn. use antarase mahimA AnI chAhiye. yah chaitanya hI mahimAvant hai. aise.

mumukShu- yah milA hai vah apUrva hai. sunanevAle hain, parantu sunanevAle sunate hain, lekin antar pariNaman nahIn karate hain. bAhar nikalate hI, shoragulamen lag jAte hain.

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mumukShu- jise jisakI ruchi ho vahAn kitanA puruShArtha karatA hai. karatA hai ki nahIn? sansAramen. yahAn isakA puruShArtha (karanA). ruchikI kShati hai.

samAdhAna- .. to sab muDe haiain. ruchi to ek AtmAkA karane jaisA hai, yah sab bAharamen dharma nahIn hai. sarva shubhAshubh bhAvase AtmA bhinna hai. us dRuShTi aur us ruchikI or to muDe hain. ab svayamko puruShArtha karanA hai. svayamko karanA hai. phir koI kahAn ruke, koI kahAn ruke. lekin karanekA to yah ek hI hai. gurudevane mArga to batAyA hai.

mumukShu- thoDA kuchh kAm kare to phans jAy ki mainne Aj bahut baDA kAm kiyA. kartAbuddhi paDI hai na.

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn, bhUl jAtA hai. main to jAnanevAlA hUn. bAharakA jo bananevAlA ho vaisA banatA hai, main to mAtra nimitta banatA hUn. mere rAgake kAraN, rAgake kAraN, merA jo rAg hotA hai, agnAnaavasthAmen rAgakA kartA hai. bAharakA to kar sakatA nahIn. rAg vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. lekin us rAgakA agnAn avasthAmen kartA hai. parantu main kuchh kar nahIn sakatA, main to gnAyak hUn. vah bhUl jAtA hai. gnAtA honeke bAd alpa asthiratA Ave, use rAg AtA hai. parantu vah bAharakA to kuchh kar nahIn sakatA. bAharake pheraphAr karanA vah to usake hAthakI bAt hI nahIn hai. mAtra bhAv karatA hai. bhAv kare.

mumukShu- kuchh yAd nahIn AtA. vahAn jAy to shoragulamen yahAn jAnA hai, vahAn jAnA hai. bAhar nikale ki bhUl gaye. sahaj pariNAm jo yahAn ho, aise vahAn...

samAdhAna- yahAn darshan ho, vahAn sab bhUl jAte hain. ye bhUmimen aisA hai. gurudevane bahut vaShA tak vANI barasAyI, yahAn virAjate the. yahAn (Akar) pariNAm badal jAya. ghar bhUl jAy aur ye sab yAd Aye.

mumukShu- yah bhUmi bhI mangal hai.

samAdhAna- AtA hai na, dravya mangal, kShetra mangal, kAl mangal aur bhAv mangala. mahApuruShakA dravya-gurudevakA dravya mangal, ve jahAn virAje vah kShetra mangal, unhonne jo kAl andarase pragaT kiyA vah kAl mangal, unakA bhAv mangala. andar jo shuddha pragaT kI vah bhAv mangala. sab mangal hI hai.

mahAvIr bhagavAn mokShamen gaye vah kAl mangal kahanemen AtA hai na? mahAvIr bhagavAnakA janma-din thA, chait shuklA-13. us 13ko mangal kAl kahanemen AtA hai na. unakA jahAn janma huA vah kShetra mangala.

mumukShu- ye kahIn sunane nahIn milatA. kahIn nahIn. kahIn sunane nahIn milatA.

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mumukShu- gurudev bAr-bAr kahate the na, yah bAt kahIn aur jagah nahIn hai. koI sampradAyamen yah bAt nahIn hai. gurudevane sabakI dishA to badal dI. ruchikI dishA sabakI badal dI.