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mumukShu- vidhi-upAy batAo? aisA sUkShma vikalpa jo rah jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- vikalpase bhedagnAn karanA. vikalpa so main nahIn hUn, merA svarUp vikalpa nahIn hai. vikalpa bhinna hai aur main bhI bhinna hUn. main svabhAv nirvikalpa tattva hUn, main gnAyak hUn. vikalpase bhedagnAn kare, pahale yathArtha shraddhA-pratIt kare ki main gnAyak hUn. us gnAyakakI dRuDh pratIta. gnAyakako bhItaramense pahachAnakar, gnAyakakA svabhAv pIchhAnakar gnAyakako bhinna kare ki yah gnAyak main hUn, yah vikalpa merA svabhAv nahIn hai. mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, parantu vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. main usase bhinna hUn. us vikalpase pahale bhedagnAn kare ki main gnAyak nirvikalpa tattva hUn. aise vikalpakA bhedagnAn kare. phir gnAyakamen lInatA kare to vikalpa TUTe.

pahale aise vikalpase bhedagnAn kare. vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. vikalpake sAth jo ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, us ekatvabuddhiko toD denA. ye vikalpa main nahIn hUn, main gnAyak hUn, jAnanevAlA hUn. main mere svabhAvakA kartA, gnAnakA kartA main gnAyak hUn, aisA bhedagnAn karanA. vikalpa toDanekA yahI upAy hai ki vikalpa vikalpase TUTatA nahIn. vikalpa toDUn-toDUn, vah bhI vikalpa hotA hai. vikalpase bhedagnAn karanA ki main gnAyak hUn. vikalpa merA svarUp nahIn hai. main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisI gnAyakakI pariNati dRuDh kare. gnAyakakI pariNati dRuDh karanese jo bhedagnAn hotA hai, vah bhedagnAn karanese, gnAyakamen lInatAkI ugratA kare to vikalpa TUTe.

mumukShu- aisA bahut sochatA hUn, gnAyak hI hUn, gnAyak hUn.

samAdhAna- aisA bhItaramense (honA chAhiye). dhokhanese to vah bhAvanArUp hotA hai ki main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn. parantu bhItaramense main gnAyak (hUn). main gnAyak hUn, vikalpa main nahIn hUn, main gnAyak hUn, vikalpa main nahIn hUn, vikalpa svarUp merA nahIn hai. main gnAyak nirvikalpa tattva hUn. main gnAyaka. aise gnAyakakA bal pragaT karanA. vikalpase bhedagnAn karanA.

mumukShu- ... prayAs karatA hUn, pragaT nahIn hotA hai. khUb prayAs karatA hUn, vah nahIn AtA hai. aisA AtA hai ki gnAyakakI khUb mahimA AnI chAhiye, vah nahIn A pAtI.

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samAdhAna- gnAyakakI mahimA nahIn AtI hai. gnAyakamen.. sabakuchh gnAyakamen hai. vikalpamen kuchh mahimA nahIn hai. gnAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. gnAyakamen shAnti laganI chAhiye. main gnAyak hUn, aise bhItaramense gnAyakamen sukh-shAnti gnAyakamen laganI chAhiye. aise gnAyak.. gnAyaka. vikalpase bhedagnAn karanA aur gnAyakakA astitva grahaN karake main gnAyak hUn, aisA bArambAr abhyAs kare to vikalpa TUTatA hai. vikalpakA bhedagnAn kare aur gnAyakakA abhyAs kare, bhItaramense mahimApUrvak gnAyakakA astitva grahaN karake, aisA bArambAr abhyAs kare to vikalpa TUTe.

mumukShu- gnAyakake astitvakA joradAr mahimAkA sankShepamen upAy.. shAstrase svIkAr hokar.. jabatak pariNati na haTe, to gnAyakake astitvako kis vidhise khyAlamen lenge? ... jam jAy, usamen...

samAdhAna- aisA puruShArthase hotA hai. gnAyakake svabhAvakA lakShaN, vah gnAyaka. yah main nahIn hUn, ye vibhAv-AkulatA main nahIn hUn. main nirAkUl tattva gnAyak hUn. bhItamense grahaN karanA chAhiye. sUkShma upayog karake dhIrA hokar bhItaramen-se sUkShma upayog karake, aise dhairyase apanA svabhAv grahaN karanA chAhiye. grahaN karaneke liye usakA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. ek bAr grahaN kiyA ki main gnAyak hUn, aise nahIn. bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanA (ki) main gnAyak hUn. bhItaramen-se dhIrA hokar aise shAntise usako grahaN karanA chAhiye to hotA hai.

mumukShu- sUkShma upayog karake.

samAdhAna- hAn, sUkShma upayog karake.

mumukShu- phir bhAvabhAsan (hotA hai)?

samAdhAna- vikalpa TUTakar andar sthir honeke bAda. parantu pahale to astitvako dRuDhatAse grahaN kare, bhedagnAn karake ki main bhinna hI hUn. jaise sphaTik nirmal usake lAl, pIle phUlase bhinna usakA astitva sphaTikakA bhinna hai, ye sab to Uparake hain. vaise jo vibhAvaparyAyen hotI hain, vah nimittakA kAraN hai, usamen upAdAn svayamkA hai ki svayam usamen juDatA hai, nimitta nahIn karavAtA hai, svayam juDatA hai. parantu vah svabhAv merA nahIn hai. merA astitva usase bhinna nahIn hai. trikAl astitva shAshvat anAdiananta hUn, aise apane astitvako grahaN kare.

mumukShu- astitva par hI chalA jAtA hai Akhir tak?

samAdhAna- astitva-gnAyak astitva. main hUn gnAyaka.

mumukShu- lekin phir use dhIre-dhIre jaise abhyAs baDhatA jAy, vaise use shakti bhI visheSh-visheSh AtI jAy?

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samAdhAna- usakA abhyAs honA chAhiye. antaramense ho to use jyAdA bal pragaT ho. use apaneAp hI dRuDhatA A jAy ki mArga yahI hai. apanA astitva grahaN kare. vikalpa, chAhe jaise Unche vikalpa ho, to bhI vikalpa hI hai, merA svabhAv usase bhinna hai. vikalpa sab AkulatArUp hai, merA svabhAv bhinna hai. aise bhedagnAn karake svayamko grahaN kare aur usamen lInatA kare to vah Age jAtA hai. usamen sthir ho, usake astitvako grahaN karake. shubh vichAr to bIchamen Ate hain, parantu merA astitva jo nirAlA astitva hai vah to bhinna hI hai, aise svayamko grahaN kare.

mumukShu- sAmAnyata to aise A hI jAtA hai..

samAdhAna- main hUn, aise sAmAnyarUpe (A jAy), parantu usakA svabhAv grahaN honA chAhiye na. sAmAnyarUpase to main hUn. main hUn to kaun hUn? kis svabhAvase hUn? merA svabhAv kyA hai? aise to vikalpamen apanA astitva anAdise mAnA hai, sharIramen astitva (mAnA hai). sharIr to sthUl hai, usase bhinna. vikalpamen apanA astitva mAnatA hai. to gnAn aur gney ekAkAr ho gaye, usamen apanA astitva mAnatA hai. merI gnAyakatA bhinna hI hai.

kShaN-kShaNamen paryAy hotI hai usamen apanA astitva mAnA hai. parantu merA astitva to shAshvat hai. aise to sAmAnyarUpase to main hUn, aisA grahaN kiyA, lekin usakA svabhAv grahaN honA chAhiye. vah to utanI usakI lagan ho, utanI mahimA lage to, antaramen utanA gaharAImen jAkar puruShArtha kare to grahaN ho.

.. dhIre kare yA jaldI kare, lekin use karanekA ek hI hai. usakI jignAsA, usakI mahimA, tattvake vichAr vahI karanekA hai. vah na ho tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shrutakA chintavan karatA rahe, tattvavichAr (kare). karanekA ek hI hai. dUsare laukik jIv kahAn paDe hote hain. gurudevane yah mArga batAyA hai. kriyAmen paDe hote hain. abhI yAtrAmen, paidal yAtrA karanekA kitanA chalA hai. sabako usImen mahattA lagI hai. paidal yAtrA, paidal yAtrA. yAtrA mAne mAno kyA... parantu antaramen karanekA hai. gurudevane yah batAyA hai.

mumukShu- .. dUsarA-dUsarA karatA rahatA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, dUsarA-dUsarA karatA rahatA hai. svayammen sukh hai, bAhar sukh hai hI nahIn. bAhar to sab AkulatA hai. koI bhI vikalpa lo, sab vikalpa hI hai. sab vikalpa AkulatArUp hai. sab vikalpa AkulatA hai. nirAkul svabhAv AtmAmen hI Ananda bharA hai.

Ananda svarUp AtmAkA, gnAyak svarUp AtmAkA pragaT na ho, tabatak dev- guru-shAstrane jo pragaT kiyA, usakI jisane sAdhanA kI usakI mahimA Aye ki ye svarUp jisane pragaT kiyA, vah karanA hai. usakA use Adar Aye. karanekA svayamko

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hI hai. grahaN to svayamko hI karanA hai.

mumukShu- pUrA samay usake liye denA paDe.

samAdhAna- samay denA paDe aur usIke pIchhe laganA paDe to hotA hai.

mumukShu- ananta kAl svayamne kyon dhyAn nahIn rakhA? usamen phir mAtAjI! aisA lagatA hai ki...

samAdhAna- bAhar hI bAhar bhaTakA hai. svayamkI vastuko svayamne pahachAnA nahIn, puruShArthakI mandatA karatA hai.

mumukShu- jab dravyalingI sAdhu huA hogA, tab bhAvalingI munionke samUhamen gayA hogA, kadAchita.

samAdhAna- banA ho.

mumukShu- vah jab hotA hai, tab bahut dukh ho jAtA hai ki ye..?

samAdhAna- svayamko apUrvatA nahIn lagI ho.

mumukShu- nukasAn.. nukasAn.. nukasAnIkA hI dhandhA kiyA.

samAdhAna- bhAvalingIkI mahimA svayamko nahIn AyI ho. isaliye mainne bahut kiyA hai, aise santoSh mAnA. .. na karatA ho, bAkI andarase kuchh-kuchh svayamko ThIk lage vah karatA ho.

mumukShu-..

samAdhAna- svayamko grahaN nahIn karatA hai. vairAgya to usane kiyA hai, aisA to usamen hai. vah koI kapaTI manuShya hai, aisA to nahIn kah sakate. saralatA Adi amuk to hotA hai. vishAlabuddhi. vishAlabuddhikA artha tattva pakaDanekI shakti kitanI hai, vah dekhanA hai. bAkI to amuk vairAgya dhAraN kiyA ho, sab chhoD diyA ho, amuk prakAr to hotA hai. amuk sAdhAraN to hotA hai. saralatA Adi to hotA hai. amuk madhyasthatA, koI mAthApachchImen paDatA nahIn.

vishAlabuddhi arthAt tattva grahaN karanekI shakti honI chAhiye na. sab bol (- guN) andar na ho, koI-koI to hote hain. amuk prakArakI bhUmikA.. parantu jis jAtikA honA chAhiye us jAtakA honA chAhiye na. amuk bhUmikA to vairAgya dhAraN kiyA ho to kuchh to aisA hotA hai. antaramen-se jo honA chAhiye vah nahIn huA ho. svayamko tattva grahaN karanekI shakti, vishAlabuddhi, saralatA, tattva grahaN kare aisI shakti, aisI bhinnatA, antaramen tattva grahaN ho, aisI shakti honI chAhiye. aisA bAharase to jIv anek bAr karatA hai.

mumukShu- vah to hamen kaise mAlUm paDe?

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samAdhAna- kyA mAlUm paDe? vah to usakI yogyatA. vah to svayam hI jAne, dUsarA kaun jAn sake?

mumukShu- gurudev bhI nahIn hai ki gurudevako kuchh pUchhen? ...

samAdhAna- .. kuchh pUchhanA hotA nahIn, isaliye use svayamko lage vairAgya A gayA.

mumukShu- hamen khyAl Ave ki ye mahArAjasAhab arthAt kAnajI mahArAjane aisI sab bAten kI hai?

samAdhAna- gnAn kar, lekin dRuShTi ek AtmA par kara. gurudevane ekadam sUkShma bAt karI. aur chAron orase sUkShma karake batA diyA hai. yuktise, dalIlase batAkar sabako (saral kar diyA).

mumukShu- AtmAko aise hathelImen de diyA hai.

samAdhAna- hathelImen dikhA diyA hai.

mumukShu- ek prashna, dUsare log-abhyAsI log, dUsare jo sAmAnya.. ham log aisA kahate hain ki chaturtha guNasthAnamen jo anubhav hotA hai, vah pratyakSha anubhav hotA hai. ham log pratyakShavat bhI kahate hain. ye log abhI aisI bAt karate hain, digambar santon, ki chauthe guNasthAnamen anubhav hai hI nahIn. jabaki ye sab to khANiyA charchAmen bhI..

samAdhAna- (chauthe guNasthAnase) svAnubhUti shurU hotI hai. sAtavenkI to kahAn bAt karanI? sAtavemmen to antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen hotI hai. chhaThaven-sAtaven munionko to antarmuhUrta- antarmuhUrtamen hotI hai. ... mAlUm hI nahIn hotA. bAhya kriyAen aur tyAgamen, kriyA aur tyAgamen mAnanevAle hote hain. tyAg kar diyA aur shAstra paDh liye, isaliye kriyA aur shAstra paDh liye isaliye sab A gayA. andaramen anubhUtiko kuchh samajhate nahIn.

... kahate hain usakA vishvAs nahIn hai. vartamAn jo satpuruSh gurudev jaise hue, unakA vishvAs nahIn hai. AchArya jo shAstramen kah gaye, samayasAramen Adimen, use gaharAIse paDhate nahIn.

samayasAramen jagah-jagah AtA hai, gaharAIse paDhate nahIn. svAnubhUtikI bAt samayasAramen kundakundAchArya aur amRutachandrAchArya, dononne likhI hai. (rahasya) khole, samayasArake rahasya bhI gurudevane khole hain. samayasAr koI samajhatA nahIn thA. usake rahasya bhI gurudevane khole hain.

mumukShu- abhI to jo log..

samAdhAna- ham kuchh jAnate hain, kuchh jAnate hain usamen rah gaye. .. gurudevane kahA, yah sharIr bhinna hai, AtmA bhinna hai. andar chaitanyatattva ananta

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shaktise bharapUr hai. usamen ananta gnAn bharA hai, ananta Ananda bharA hai. ananta-ananta shaktiyonse bharA AtmA hai. us par dRuShTi jAy to usamen jo ananta shaktiyAn hain, vah pragaT hotI hain. vah apanA svabhAv hI hai. sahaj gnAnase bharA AtmA hai. us par dRuShTi karake usamen lInatA kare to usamense sab pragaT hotA hai. .. grahaN karanA vah vAstavik hai. usImen ananta shaktiyAn bharI hain. Ananda kahIn bAharase pragaT nahIn hotA, apanemen- hI pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- ... din-pratidin vardhamAn hotI jAtI hai, vaise bAhya gnAn bhI din- pratidin .. hogI na?

samAdhAna- bAhya gnAn.. andarakI gnAyakakI ugratA. gnAyakakI nirmalatA, gnAyakakI dhArA, antaramen-se nirmal svAnubhUtikI dhArA, gnAyakakI nirmal dhArA,... bAharakA gnAn yAnI...

mumukShu- bAharakA gnAn to kShayopashamik gnAn hai.

samAdhAna- vah to kShayopashamagnAn hai. bAharakA mati aur shrut, vah bhI usakA upayog bAhar Aye to vah bhI nirmal hotA hai. bAhar upayog ho to vah bhI nirmal ho, antaramen upayog ho to antarakI nirmalatA hotI hai. bahut jyAdA jAne aisA nahIn, parantu nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai.

mumukShu- .. doShit ho jAy aisA nahIn? samAdhAna- upayog bAhar jAy to gnAn doShit nahIn hotA. usamen rAg Ave to dikkat hai. usamen ekatvabuddhi ho usakI dikkat hai. doShit nahIn hotA, gnAnakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. gnAn sab jAn sakatA hai. gnAnamen aisI maryAdA bAndhanekI koI AvashyakatA nahIn hai ki gnAn itanA jAne aur itanA gnAn nahIn jAnatA. gnAn to ananta mahimAse bharapUr hai. jAnanA usakA nAm ki jo sab jAne. gnAnamen aisI maryAdA na hotI ki itanA jAne aur itanA na jAne. gnAn ananta shaktise bharA hai. sab jAnanekI gnAnamen shakti hai. lekin usakA upayog bAhar jAy, usamen rAg Ave, vah rAgakA doSh hai. usamen gnAnakA doSh nahIn hai. rAg toDaneko kahA jAtA hai. tU vItarAgatA pragaT kar, terI dishA badala. sahaj gnAn antaramen hai, vah antaramense sab pragaT hotA hai. usamen tU lInatA kara.