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mumukShu- .. main gnAyak hUn aur gnAnake bhedamen is prakAr vichAr kare ki main mere dvArA, mujhe jAnatA hUn. pratham bhUmikAmen aise vichAr antar sanmukh honeke liye aise bhed bIchamen Ate hain, aur usake bAd hI use anubhav yA nirNay..

samAdhAna- bIchamen vichAr Aye. gney nimagnatAko chhoD de aur svayam gnAyakakI or jAya. isaliye usamen svaparaprakAshak merA svabhAv nahIn hai, aisA nahIn hai. usakA rAg toDatA hai. gneyakI jo nimagnatA hai, us nimagnatAko toDakar usakA bhedagnAn karatA hai ki merA gnAn bAhar nahIn jAtA hai athavA merA gnAn mujhe chhoDakar gneyamen chhinna- bhinna, khaNDa-khaNDa nahIn ho jAtA hai. main to mere gnAnase, svayam merA astitva merese jIvit hUn, mere astitvase rahanevAlA hUn. isaliye merA gnAn mujhe svayamko apanI or hI mere astitvamen rahanevAlA merA gnAn hai. aise.

mumukShu- jisamen ekatvapanA kiyA hai, us ekatvako..

samAdhAna- hAn, ekatvapaneko toDatA hai. gnAyak hI merA svabhAv hai. toDakar phir bAharakA gnAn ho, shAstramen AtA hai na? ise nikAl do, nikAl do, aisA use nahIn hotA. kyonki usamen ekatvabuddhiko toDanI hai. ekatvabuddhi toDanI hai. ekatvabuddhi toDakar bhedagnAn karatA hai ki main mere gnAnako prakAshit karanevAlA svayam, main svayam jyoti gnAn prakAshamAn hUn. aise apanI or muDatA hai. phir jo sahaj usamen AtA hai usakA gnAn karatA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnakI pariNati rAgake sAth ekamek ho gayI, ... to vah kaise bhinna paDe? usamen shurUAt kaise karanI? bIchamen kyA Aye? usake bAd kyA hotA hai? ....

samAdhAna- kyA? bIchamen kyA Aye..?

mumukShu- bhedagnAn karanekI shurUAt kaise karanI? bAdamen kaise Age baDhanA?

samAdhAna- gnAn hai use pahachAn lenA ki yah gnAn hai aur yah rAg hai. rAg aur gnAnakA lakShaN pahachAn lenA ki yah lakShaN gnAnakA hai, yah lakShaN rAgakA hai. parantu pariNati ek ho rahI hai, use bhinna karaneke liye, yah gnAnalakShaN hai vahI merA svabhAv hai aur vahI mujhe sukharUp hai. jo gnAn hai vahI sukharUp hai, rAg hai vah

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sukharUp nahIn hai, vah to vibhAv hai. aisI apanI pratIt yathArtha ho, usakI mahimA Aye to usamense bhinna honekA svayam prayatna kare. aisA vishvAs AnA chAhiye ki yah lakShaN gnAnakA hI hai aur gnAnalakShaN jo hai vahI main hUn. aur usImen shAnti hai, usImen sukh hai. aur bAhar is rAgamen sukh aur shAnti nahIn hai. aisA yadi use vishvAs Aye, pratIt Aye to vah bhinna paDanekA prayatna karatA hai.

yah sva so main, yah par hai. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aur use usamen sukhakA sukhakA vishvAs AnA chAhiye, use apane svabhAvakA vishvAs AnA chAhiye to bhinna paDe.

mumukShu- vishvAsamen samajhase vishvAs Aye aise?

samAdhAna- samajhapUrvak hI Aye na ki yah gnAn jo hai vahI sukhakA kAraN hai, merA svabhAv ho vahI sukharUp ho. ye rAg koI sukharUp nahIn hai. usakA vedan bhI AkulatArUp hotA hai. aur gnAnakA vichAr kare to usakA vedan AkulatArUhap nahIn hai. (rAg) AkulatArUp hai. aise pahale to vichArase nakkI kare. shurUAtamen to use anubhav yA vedan hotA nahIn. isaliye vichArase hI use nakkI karanekA rahatA hai.

lakShaN pahachAnakar vichAr karanekA, vichArase nakkI karanekA rahatA hai. ... vah lakShaN pUrA akhaNDa dravya hai. vah lakShaN mAtra paryAy tak sImit nahIn, parantu pUrA dravya svatasiddha akhaNDa tattva hUn. aise use nirNay karanekA antaramen rahatA hai. jo dikhatA hai vah mAtra paryAy dikhatI hai, usake khyAlamen AtI hai. parantu us parase pUre dravya par dRuShTi karanI hai.

mumukShu- lakShaNako bhinna karanemen hI takalIph paDatI hai. lakShaNako bhinna karanemen hI dikkat hotI hai. rAg aur gnAn, ye donon..

samAdhAna- donon ekamek dikhate hain.

mumukShu- jAnapanA vah gnAna. aise vichAramen to le sakate hain. parantu usase Age kuchh bhAvabhAsan jaisA ho, aisA kuchh nahIn banatA.

samAdhAna- jAnapanA vah gnAna. lekin jAnapanA mAtra nahIn, jo jANakasvabhAv hI hai, jo jANakasvabhAv hai vah main hUn. aise svayam antaramen gaharAImen dRuShTi kare to jANakasvabhAv hai vah main hUn. ye jaDasvabhAv kuchh jAnatA nahIn. jAnanevAlA svabhAv hai vah main hUn. svabhAv par jAnA rahatA hai. mAtra jAnapanA nahIn. jAnanevAlA hai, us par dRuShTi karanI hai.

mumukShu- aisA vichAr karanepar rAg chhUTakar paragneyase bhinna...

samAdhAna- sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. gnAyak, jAnanevAlA gnAyak hI gnAnarUp pariNamatA hai. apane svabhAvarUp, gnAyak hI gnAnasvabhAvarUp pariNamit huA hai. aisA use lakShyamen Aye, aisI pratIt ho, gnAnamen lakShaNase barAbar pahachAne to rAgase aur gneyonse

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sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. apanA astitva gnAyakarUpamen astitva grahaN ho to usamen dUsarA jo hai vah sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. yah main hUn, isaliye ye main nahIn hUn, usamen sAthamen A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- vikalpAtmak dashAmen jabatak aisI pratIti na ho, tabatak aisA gholan arthAt aise vichAr, yathArtha vichAramen lenA?

samAdhAna- aise vichAr use gholanamen chalate rahe, jabatak use gnAyakakA astitva antaramen-se grahaN na ho, tabatak vichAr chalate rahe ki ye rAg main nahIn hUn. merA svabhAv gney nahIn hai, main to gnAnasvabhAv hUn. aise vichAr chalate rahe. parantu bhinna kab paDe? apanA gnAyakakA astitva grahaN ho to usakA bhedagnAn usamen sahaj A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- gnAyak hI gnAnamen gnAt ho rahA hai, arthAt gnAnakI paryAy jAnanerUp pariNamatI hai. vah jo Apane kahA na ki, usase paragneyase aur rAgase bhinna paDe aur apanA .. astitva usake khyAlamen Ave, usake bAd utpAd-vyayako gauN karake sAmAnyako..

samAdhAna- sAmAnyako lakShyamen le. .. pariNamanevAlA hUn, par svabhAvarUp nahIn. aise lakShyamen liyA. main sAmAnya dhruv anAdiananta gnAyak hUn, usamen sAthamen A jAtA hai. usamen use kAlakI or dRuShTi nahIn karanI paDatI. kAlako khojane nahIn paDatA. parantu ye jo astitva hai, vah astitva trikAl hai, aisI pratIti use usamen sAth A jAtI hai.

sahaj svatasiddha astitva aisA hI hotA hai ki jo trikAl hotA hI hai. sahaj astitva gnAyakakA hai. vah kisIne banAyA huA kRutrim nahIn hai, sahaj astitva hai, anAdiananta hai.

mumukShu- main gnAyak hI hUn, aise to vibhAg karake parase bhinna paDanekA prayatna..

samAdhAna- gnAyak gnAnarUp pariNamatA hai. usakI vichArakI vidhimen kuchh bhI Aye, parantu use ek gnAyak grahaN karanA hai. vichAr-vidhimen use kram paDe ki ye gney main nahIn hUn. ye rAg main nahIn hUn. phir prashasta bhAvakA guNabhed, usamen vikalpa sAthamen rahate hai. yah gnAn, yah darshan, yah chAritra. athavA merA gnAn hai vah pariNamatA hai, ye pararUp nahIn pariNamatA. aise use guN-guNIkA bhed paDe, vichArakI vidhimen vah Aye, usakA kram paDe, lekin grahaN ekako karanA hai. kisIko dravya-guN-paryAyarUpase Ate hain, kisIko utpAd-vyay-dhruvarUpase Aye, kisIko ye gnAtA-gnAn-gney aisA bhed karake Aye, aise kisI bhI prakArase, koI bhI shabda bhAShAmen ho, parantu use mUl ekako grahaN karanekA hai.

gneyase bhinna karanA, vibhAvase bhinna karanA, aur guNabhed, paryAyake bhed vah bhI vikalpa hai. usamen vAstavik guNabhed yA paryAyabhed mUl vastumen nahIn hai. grahaN ekako karanA hai. kram use vichArakI vidhimen us tarah Age-Age kram paDate hain. pahale sthUl hote-

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hote, sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai. gneyase bhinna paDA, vah sthUla. phir rAgase bhinna paDA, thoDA Age chalA to guNabhed, paryAyabhed, usase upayog sUkShma kiyA. usase sUkShma ek dravyako grahaN karanA vah hai.

mumukShu- pahale dravya-paryAyarUp vastukA yathArtha svarUp savikalpa dashAmen pratItirUp Aye aur phir main gnAyak hUn, aisA pratItimen Ave, aisA koI kram hai?

samAdhAna- use vichArakI vidhimen aisA kram paDatA hai. gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN ho vah alag hai. vAstavamen to vah grahaN karanekA hai. usake vichArakI vidhimen aisA nakkI kare. shAstramen bhI AtA hai na ki pratham sudRuShTi so vichAr kije bhinna. sUkShma sharIr bhinna jAne aur vikalpakI upAdhi bhinna jAne. subuddhikA vilAs bhinna jAne. vah kram AtA hai, lekin grahaN to ekako karanekA hai.

sachchA grahaN kiyA use kahen ki jo ekako grahaN kiyA vaha. upayog dhIre-dhIre sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai, Age jAtA hai taba. gnAyak grahaN ho to sab kram use ekasAth A jAtA hai. sthUl aur sUkShma. ekadam ho jAy, ekadam gnAyak grahaN ho jAy, jaldI ho jAy..

mumukShu- aisA bhI bane?

samAdhAna- hAn.

mumukShu- sIdhA gnAyakako grahaN kare aur dUsarA gnAn yathArtha ho jAya.

samAdhAna- hAn, ... ho jAya. use sAthamen A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- kisIko kam vichAraNA chale.

samAdhAna- kam vichAraNA chale. main kaun hUn? aisA vichAr karate-karate main gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN ho jAya. to usamen use vikalpake bhed, rAgase bhed sab ekasAth A jAtA hai. bhed so main nahIn hUn, parantu main ek akhaNDa dravya hUn.

mumukShu- pUrva sanskArakA kAraN banatA hogA?

samAdhAna- nahIn, pUrva sanskAr nahIn banatA. kisIkI vartamAn taiyArI ho to bane. chauthe kAlamen aisA ban jAtA. ekadam grahaN ho jAya. is panchamakAlamen to durlabh hai. jise antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai, use ekadam grahaN ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- Apako sahaj lagatA hai, aur hamen bahut ulajhan hotI hai. koI bAr vichAr karate samay ulajhanakA anubhav ho, koI bAr aisA lage ki nahIn, ye to sahaj hai. bArambAr vahI prashna kaise pUchhe?

samAdhAna- aisI nirAshA honekA koI kAraN nahIn hai. bhAvanA ho, isaliye vah vichAr chalate rahe. bhAvanA ho isaliye prashna bhI Ate rahe. jabatak antaramen svayamko jignAsA

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ho aur kaise prayatna karanA, isaliye prashna Ate rahe.

mumukShu- bhAvanAke prakaraNase hI anajAne hain. kitanA sundar prakaraN khul gayA hai.

samAdhAna- tabatak vah sab AtA hI rahe, vichAr, prayatna sab chalatA hI rahe. us din bolA gayA hogA, isaliye usamen sab A gayA. gurudevake pratApase...

mumukShu- pravachanamen bolA gayA?

samAdhAna- vAnchanamen bol gayA ho, kisIne prashna pUchhA ho, usamen bolA gayA ho.

mumukShu- rAgake atirikta dUsarA aisA kyA hai ki .. hone nahIn detA? rAg to spaShTa samajhamen AtA hai. dUsarI koI dashAmen granthibhedakI koI nirmalatA nahIn hai, usake pahale to rAgakI pradhAnatA to hai hI, aisA kaun-sA dUsarA tattva bhAvanAmen hai ki jo bhAvanAko saphal karatA hai?

samAdhAna- bhAvanAke sAth rAg juDA hotA hai. parantu pariNati apanI or joradAr (hotI hai ki) ek AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh mujhe nahIn chAhiye. vah bhAvanA andarase jor (karatI hai). pariNati, aisI yogyatA antaramense jIvakI pragaT hotI hai. apane puruShArtha, ruchi us orakI jAgRut hotI hai ki mujhe ye kuchh nahIn chAhiye. usakI ruchi kahIn TikatI nahIn. ruchi ek AtmAkI or hI jAtI hai ki andar AtmAmense koI apUrvatA, antaramense apUrva shAnti yA apUrva Ananda A jAya. AtmAmense kuchh antaramen- se pragaT ho. aisI apanI ruchi AtmAkI or jAtI hai. rAg hai, parantu rAgake sAth apanI bhAvanAkI aisI pariNati joradAr hotI hai.

mumukShu- AtmA chAhiye, aise?

samAdhAna- AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. antaramen-se AtmAkI koI apUrvatA prApta ho, ki jisake binA use kahIn shAnti nahIn hotI. use prApta hue binA rahe hI nahIn. antaramen-se aisI bhAvanA jAgRut huyI ho to.

mumukShu- khAs pAtratAmen... bahut sundar viShay AyA hai.

samAdhAna- apanI antaramen-se aisI pAtratA ho ki svayamko AtmA prApta hokar hI chhUTakArA ho. aisI pariNati apanI or, ruchikI pariNati aise muDatI hai. pariNati hI svayamko jorase khInchakar AtmAkI or lAtI hai. ruchi hI svayamkI (aisI ho jAtI hai ki) use bAhar kahIn shAnti nahIn hotI. usakI pariNati hI joradAr svayamko pragaT hue binA rahatI hI nahIn.

.. usamen A gayA hai na ki to jagatako shUnya honA paDe. apanI pariNati hI svayamko pragaT hue binA rahe hI nahIn. aisA kudaratakA svabhAv hai. pariNati hI svayamkI

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or lAtI hI hai. jagatako shUnya (honA paDe arthAt) apanA svabhAv kArya kiye binA rahe hI nahIn. jagatako shUnya (honA paDe). to vastu hI na rahe, yadi svayam apanI pariNati pragaT na kare to.

mumukShu- rAg hai, phir bhI rAg to vahAn dekhatA nahIn. samAdhAna- rAg dekhatA nahIn. rAg sAthamen Aye lekin rAg dekhatA nahIn. rAg rahit vastu muje chAhiye. aisI bhAvanA hai. apanI pariNati antaramen-se svayam hI pragaT kiye binA rahe nahIn. jagatako shUnya honA paDe. dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. lekin dravyakA nAsh to hotA hI nahIn. svayam apanI pariNati pragaT kiye binA nahIn rahatA.