Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 204.

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samAdhAna- ... jAnanevAlA hai, gnAyak hai. lekin vikalpa hI nahIn hai, vikalpa rahit AtmA hai. vah to Anandase bharA, Anandase bharA hai. usamen ulajhanamen nahIn A jAnA. main to jAnanevAlA gnAyak AtmA AnandasvarUp hUn. koI vikalpa mere svarUpamen nahIn hai. main to siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmA hUn. siddha bhagavAn jaise AtmAke Anandamen virAjate hain, vaisA main shaktirUp chaitanya paramAtmA hUn. koI vikalpa meremen nahIn hai, vikalpa rahit AtmA hUn. jAnanevAlA hUn aur main sukhase bharA (hUn). bAhar kahIn sukh nahIn hai.

ananta kAlamen janma-maraN karate-karate mushkilase manuShyabhav milatA hai. aur us manuShyabhavamen jIv jo karanA chAhe vah kar sakatA hai. puruShArthase bharA hai. use koI nahIn rokatA hai. use karma nahIn rokate, koI nahIn rokatA hai. AtmA AnandasAgarase bharA jAnanevAlA hai. usamen koI vikalpa hI nahIn hai. main vikalpa rahit jAnanevAlA AtmA hUn. main jAnanevAlA hUn.

gurudevane kahA ki tU chaitanya (hai). bhagavAn jaisA terA svarUp shaktise hai. ata ulajhanamen nahIn A jAnA. shAnti rakhakar pariNAm badalate rahanA ki main jAnanevAlA hUn. koI vikalpa merA svarUp nahIn hai. sukh aur mahimA meremen hai. bAhar kahIn sukh aur mahimA nahIn hai. dukhasvarUp hai.

ananta kAlase jIvane janma-maraN kiye hain. usamen-se anek jAtake narkake, nigodake, devalokake ananta (bhav) kiye, sab kiye. usamen kabhI aise guru nahIn mile hain. is pancham kAlamen aise guru mile. aisA manuShyabhav milA. gurudevane kahA, tU shaktise bhagavAn jaisA AtmA hai. main to bhagavAn jaisA hUn. koI vikalpa meremen nahIn hai. main to gnAyak hUn. aise AtmAmen shAnti rakhanI. ulajhanamen nahIn AnA. shAnti rakhanI. main jAnanevAlA hUn. achchhA-achchhA vAnchan karanA, bhagavAnake mandiramen jAnA. bhagavAn jaisA chaitanyasvarUp AtmA hUn, koI vikalpa meremen nahIn hai. shAnti rakhanI.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- use andar AtmA-AtmAkI lagan lage, kahIn chain paDe nahIn. andarase AtmAkI, antaramen-se shAnti na Ave, antaramen-se sukh pragaT na ho, tabatak use kahIn


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chain na paDe. AtmA kaise samajhamen Aye? AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? usIkI dhUn, usakI bAr-bAr lagan laganI chAhiye. vastu kyA hai? tattva kyA hai? AtmAkA svabhAv kyA hai? usakA bArambAr chintavan, manan use antaramen chalatA rahe. antaramen khojanA, grahaN karanA svayamko hai. gurudevane mArga to batA diyA hai. grahaN, svabhAvako kaise grahaN karanA? jo vibhAv ho rahA hai, usamense sUkShma upayog karake antar AtmAko grahaN karanA, vah puruShArtha svayamko karanA hai.

mumukShu- .. usakA ekatva mithyA hai aur gnAnasvabhAv apanA hai, vahI ekatva yathArtha hai, isaprakAr use bArambAr apane samvedanamen prayatna karanA paDatA hogA? kaise hai?

samAdhAna- bArambAr usakA prayatna kare ki ye jo hai vah yathArtha nahIn hai. yah ekatvabuddhi hai vibhAvakI, vah yathArthatA nahIn hai. vah to mithyA hai. kyonki vah par vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai, AkulatArUp hai. usakI ekatvabuddhi TUTe kaise? aur svabhAvamen kaise ekatvatA ho? svabhAvako grahaN kare to svayamkA ekatva pragaT ho. svarUpakA ekatva aur parase vibhakta kaise ho, usakA bArambAr abhyAs kare to pragaT ho.

(svabhAvase) ekatva aur vibhAvase vibhaktakI vArtA jIvane sunI nahIn hai. gurudevane vah sab svarUp batAyA hai. antarakA svarUp bhI gurudevane pragaT karake sabako batAyA. (bAkI sab) shrut-sunanemen AyI, anubhavamen sab AyA. yah vArtA jIvane sunI nahIn, usakA parichay nahIn kiyA hai, shAstramen AtA hai. to sunaneemen to gurudevake pratApase A gayI. andar vichAramen, antaramen UtAranI svayamko bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShu- .. gnAnamen jise kImat denI chAhiye usakI kImat AtI nahIn aur jisakI kImat dene jaisI nahIn hai, usakI kImat AtI hai, aise kaise gahare viparIt sanskAr DAle honge ki bArambAr aisA khyAl AtA hai ki vAsatvamen to kImatI chIj to shuddhAtmA hai ki jisamen aise ananta guN aise ananta sAmarthyase bhare hain. kShayopashamagnAnamen sab khyAlamen AtA hai. phir bhI kImat paisA ho to paisekI, dUsarI koI chIj ho to vahAn kImat dI jAtI hai aur usakI adhikatA ho jAtI hai. aise kaise gahare sanskAr DAle hain ki jisase vah sAph nahIn ho rahe hain?

samAdhAna- anAdi kAlake vah sanskAr viparIt paDe hain, isaliye bArambAr usakI sphUraNA hotI rahatI hai. aur andar vichAramen nirNayamen aisA Aye ki ye sab to jUThA hai, tuchchha hai, mahimAvant to AtmA hai ki jo ananta guNase bharA anupam hai, vah hai. phir bhI anAdise jo pariNati hai usamen pariNati dauDatI rahatI hai. usamen usakI ekatvabuddhi hai. usamen chalA jAtA hai. parantu prayatna karake, kShaN-kShaNamen puruShArtha karake usase svayam bhinna ho, to vah TUT jAya.


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mumukShu- paryAy ek samayakI, matAjI! dUsare samay to us paryAyakA vyay ho jAtA hai. aur vah gahare sanskAr aise kaise Dal jAte hain ki itanA lambA abhyAs, vichAr karate hain, phir bhI kImat vahAn de dete hain aur isakI kImat abhI bhI nahIn A rahI hai?

samAdhAna- paryAy palaT jAtI hai, parantu AtmA to nitya hai. AtmA nitya hai to vahI sanskAr aise hI sphUrit hote rahate hain. paryAy to kShaN-kShaNamen palaTatI hai. paryAy anitya hai, AtmA nitya hai. usamen jo vibhAvake sanskAr hain, vah sphUrit hote rahate hain.

parantu gnAnasvabhAv aisA hai ki vah gnAnasvabhAv to svayamkA hI hai. vah koI parAyA nahIn hai. yadi svayam pragaT kare to vah sahaj hai. parAyA nahIn hai ki bAhar lene jAnA paDe. kShaNamen pragaT ho aisA hai aur svayamkA hai aur sahaj hai, parantu usamen vah dRuShTi nahIn rakhatA hai. isaliye anAdikA jo vah aise hI sphUratA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- ek bAt kahI na, nirAsh hone jaisA to kuchh hai nahIn. vah bAt bahut achchhI lagatI hai.

samAdhAna- nirAsh hone jaisA hai hI nahIn. svayamkA hI hai, apanA svabhAv hai. antaramen-se hI pragaT ho aisA hai. svayam antaramen dRuShTi rakhe to jo usamen-se hI, jo svabhAv hai usamen-se hI svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.

gurudev kahate the, chhoTIpIpar ghisate-ghisate usamen-se pragaT hotA hai. aise svayamke svabhAvakA abhyAs karane-se usamen-se hI svayam pragaT hotA hai. usImen sab bharA hai, usImen-se pragaT hotA hai. ye sanskAr to vibhAvake hain. vah to jab TUT jAte hain, tab aise TUT jAte hain ki phirase utpanna nahIn hote. jo apanA svabhAv to shAshvat hai, (isaliye) jo pragaT huA so pragaT huA, sAdi ananta-ananta samAdhi sukhamen (rahatA hai). pragaT huA so pragaT huA, phir badalatA nahIn. aur vah svabhAv to ananta kAl paryant pariNamatA hI rahatA hai. vah sanskAr, vah svabhAv to aisA hai. aur ye sanskAr TUT jAy, nAsh ho jAy to phir usakA udabhav nahIn hotA. kyonki vah to vibhAv hai. parantu vah toDatA nahIn hai tabatak utpanna hote rahate hain. TUT jAy to phir utpanna hI nahIn hote.

mumukShu- shurUAtamen vishvAs nahIn AtA hai.

samAdhAna- vishvAs nahIn AtA hai. apanI or dRuShTi gayI to samyagdarshan hotA hai. aur use yadi mUlamen-se nAsh ho to phirase ekatvabuddhike sanskAr puna utpanna nahIn hote. bhinna huA so huA, phir bhinnakI or hI usakI pariNati chalI. phir TUT


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gayA so TUT gayA, nAsh ho gayA. phirase vah ekatvabuddhike sanskAr use utpanna hI nahIn hote. svabhAvakI ekatvatA pragaT huyI so pragaT huyI, sAdiananta (rahatI hai).

usake bAd svarUpakI ramaNatA-vItarAg dashA adhUrI hai, vah vItarAg dashA pragaT huyI to rAgakA ankur utpanna hI nahIn hotA hai. is tarah vah sanskAr nAsh ho jAte hain. phir apane svabhAvamen-se svabhAv hI pragaT hotA rahatA hai. kyonki svabhAv hai usakA nAsh to kabhI hotA nahIn.

ananta kAl gayA, itane vibhAv hue, ananta kAl paryant vibhAv aise hI karatA AyA to bhI jo svabhAv hai usakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. aur phir vah jab pragaT hotA hai, phir ananta kAl paryant pragaT hotA hI rahatA hai. vibhAvakA nAsh ho, phir usakA ankur utpanna hI nahIn hotA.

parantu vah svayam puruShArtha karake use toDatA nahIn hai, isaliye vah sanskAr ananta kAlake hain, vah bAr-bAr utpanna hote rahate hain. yadi usakA nAsh ho jAy to phir utpanna hI nahIn hote. kyonki vah vibhAv hai. apanA nahIn hai, nikal jAtA hai.

sphaTik maNi svabhAvase shuddha hai, usamen nirmal paryAy hI pragaT hotI hai. jo lAl, pIle phUl hain, vah to anya nimittase (pratibimb uThA hai), bhale pariNaman apanA hai, parantu vah to nikal jAneke bAd hote hI nahIn.

aise chaitanyamen malinatA TUT jAy, phir AtI hI nahIn. lekin vah sanskAr svayam toDatA nahIn hai, isaliye utpanna hote rahate hain. svayam anAdi kAlase bhinna hI hai, tInon kAla. parantu us bhinnakI pariNati pragaT huyI aur svAnubhUtikI dashAkI or muDA, bhedagnAnakI dashA pragaT huyI, aur yadi use dRuDh ho gayI evan ekatvabuddhike sanskAr nAsh hue, to puna utpanna hI nahIn hote. aisA vastukA (svarUp hai).

jo svabhAv hai vah to sahaj hai. antaramen-se phir svabhAv svabhAvakI gatimen aise hI sahajarUp pariNamatA hai. aur vah sahaj hai. (vibhAv) duShkar hai. lekin vibhAv hai vah sahaj ho gayA hai aur svabhAv mAnon duShkar ho, aisA use ho gayA hai. parantu svabhAv to sahaj hai, svayamkA hai. pragaT honeke bAd phir usamen-se sahaj pragaT hotA hI rahatA hai. vah to nAsh ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- ek bAr pragaT huA so huA, phir nAsh nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- hAn, pragaT huA so huA, phir nAsh nahIn hotA. us or usakI gati chalI so chalI. vibhAv nAsh ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- arthAt vibhAvake sanskAramen jor hai hI nahIn, svabhAvamen hI jor hai.

samAdhAna- usamen jor hI nahIn hai, svabhAvamen jor hai. ananta kAl gayA to


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bhI svabhAv jyonkA tyon hai. svabhAvake sanskAr to gaye hI nahIn, svabhAv to svabhAvarUp hI hai. parantu vibhAvamen svayam juDA hai, isaliye usake sanskAr utpanna hote rahate hain. yadi use toD de to phir-se Ate hI nahIn. toD de to svabhAv svabhAvarUp pariNamatA hai.

mumukShu- kShayopashamakA abhAv huA to kShAyik hI hotA hai.

samAdhAna- kShAyik hI hotA hai. apanA hai, kahIn lene nahIn jAnA hai, isaliye sulabh hai.

mumukShu- shAstramen ek or aisI bAt Aye ki jis prakArase puruShArtha kar athavA terI paryAy karanemen tU svatantra hai. aur dUsarI or aisA Aye ki pratyek paryAy usake svakAlamen hotI hai, dononkA mel kaise hai? shAstramen aisA AtA hai ki pratyek paryAy usake svakAlamen hotI hai.

samAdhAna- usake svakAlamen hotI hai?

mumukShu- jI hAn. aur dUsarI or aisA Aye ki tU svatantra hai. kisI bhI prakArakI paryAy pragaT karanI vah tere adhIn hai yAnI tU svatantra hai. jaisA puruShArtha tU kar, vaisA tU kar sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- terI pariNati tere hAthakI bAt hai. jis or tere puruShArthakI gati hai, us or terI paryAy pariNamegI, aur us orakA kAl hai, aisA samajh lenA. jaisI tere puruShArthakI gati hai, us orakA svakAl samajh lenA. svakAlamen ho arthAt svakAlamen puruShArthakI Dor sAthamen hotI hai. jis or tere vIryakI gati-puruShArthakI gati, us orakA terA kAl hai. vibhAvakI or terI Dor hai to us orakA kAl hai. yadi terA puruShArtha svabhAvakI or gayA to us orakA kAl hai.

mumukShu- svabhAvakI dRuShTi ho to us orakA kAl hai. nirmal paryAy pragaT honekA kAl hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, vah kAl hai.

mumukShu- aur paryAyadRuShTi ho to vibhAvaparyAy pragaT honekA kAl hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, vibhAvaparyAy pragaT honekA kAl hai.

mumukShu- use aur jo puruShArtha tU karanA chAhe vah kar sakatA hai. usamen is tarah lenA?

samAdhAna- hAn, is prakAr lenA. usamen puruShArthakA sambandha sabake sAth lenA hai. paryAyake sAtha. usakI puruShArthakI dishA kis or hai (us par nirbhar karatA hai). tU gnAyak-or gayA to gnAyak-orakI hI sab paryAy pragaT hogI. aur terI dRuShTi paryAy- or hai to us-orakI sab paryAyen pragaT hogI.


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mumukShu- svatantrarUpase tU kartA hai, arthAt koI paradravya karavAtA nahIn hai, aise lenA?

samAdhAna- paradravya tujhe karavAtA nahIn, tU svayam svatantra paryAy kar rahA hai. svatantratA (hai). svatantratA arthAt koI dUsarA dravya tujhe nahIn karavAtA hai. kyonki tU anyakA nahIn karatA aur tuje koI anya nahIn karatA hai. is tarah terI svatantratA hai. parantu paryAy aisI svatantra nahIn hai ki paryAy aisI svatantra ho ki dravyake Ashray binA paryAy pariName, aisI paryAy hotI nahIn. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy pariNamatI hai. dravyake Ashray binA paryAy svatantra pariName to-to vah svayam ek dravya ho jAtI hai. isaliye usakI svatantratA usake pariNaman tak simIt hai ki vah paryAy kaise pariName. aise svatantra hai. lekin use dravyakA Ashray to hotA hai.

mumukShu- is bAtakI hI abhI takarAr chalatI hai.

samAdhAna- .. is tarah svayam pariNaman karake, svayam apane dravyamen-se svatantrarUpase pariNaman karake kArya lAve, isaliye vah paryAy svatantra (hai). parantu use dravyakA Ashray hai. dravyake Ashray binAkI paryAy nahIn hai.

mumukShu- usamen to do bAt AyI na ki, ShaTakArak, dravyake ShaTakArak dravyamen hai, isaliye paryAyako aur dravyako abhed karake ShaTakArak (kahe), kartA dravya, karaN dravya sab dravya. aur use rakhakar paryAyake ShaTakArak lene hon to is tarah lenA ki pariNaman us samayakA..

samAdhAna- vah pariNaman dravyake Ashrayase hai, us tarah usake ShaTakArak lene. paryAy svatantra hai. usakA karaN, sampradAn, apAdAn, saba. usakI svatantrA bhI dravyake Ashrayayukta hai. akelI paryAy, binA dravyAshray nirAdhAr nahIn hotI hai.

mumukShu- spaShTIkaraN karUn ki paryAy svatantrapane hotI hai, arthAt koI anya dravya usakI paryAyako karatA nahIn, utanA hI usakA artha hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, utanA artha hai.

mumukShu- aur svatantrapane hotI hai arthAt jaisI dRuShTi ho, svabhAvakI or dRuShTikA jhukAv ho to usakI paryAyamen nirmalatA sahajarUpase hotI rahatI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, vah sahaj pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- svakAlamen jo honevAlI hai vah hotI rahatI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAnakI gnAnarUp, darshanakI darshanarUp, chAritrakI chAritrarUp, vah svatantra usakI hotI rahatI hai.

mumukShu- paryAyadRuShTi ho to is tarah (hotI hai).


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samAdhAna- hAn, paryAyadRuShTi ho to is tarah (hotI hai). svabhAv-or dRuShTi gayI to sab nirmal paryAyen svatantra hotI hain. (dravyakA) Ashray rahatA hai. svatantratA hai, vah ek sat hai, parantu use dravyake AshrayakI apekShA hai.

mumukShu- use rakhakar bAt hai.

samAdhAna- vah bAt rakhakar (bAt) hai. aur vah shAstramen bhI AtA hai. koI jagah paryAy svatantra hai aisA Aye aur koI jagah dravyakA Ashray hai, aisA bhI AtA hai, donon bAt AtI hain.

mumukShu- vahAn dravyakA Ashray arthAt yahAn jaise svabhAvakA Ashray hai vaise nahIn. dravyakA Ashray mAne dravyakA svayamkA pariNaman hai, use dravyakA Ashray hai, yah kahanA hai?

samAdhAna- dravyakA jaisA pariNaman hai, jis or usakI pariNati (jhukatI hai), jaisI apanI dRuShTi hai vaisI usakI paryAy hai. .. svabhAv-or dRuShTi gayI to svabhAv paryAy (hotI hai). sab guNakI svatantra paryAy (hotI hai). gnAnakI gnAn, darshanakI darshan, chAritrakI chAritra, aise svatantra paryAyen hotI hain. ek dravyake Ashrayase hai.

mumukShu- un sabakA AdhArabhUt dravya ek hI hai.

samAdhAna- AdhArabhUt dravya hai.

mumukShu- aisA vastukA svarUp hai, to svatantrapane tU kar sakatA hai, vah donon bAt kaise? paryAyake usake svakAlamen hotI hai. aur dUsarI or aisA kahanA hai ki tU svatantrapane paryAyakA kartA hai.

samAdhAna- paryAyakA svatantrapane tU kartA hai aur vah svakAlamen hotI hai. usamen dravyakA Ashray aur usakI svatantratA, donon batAte hain. usakI svatantratA koI apekShAse svatantratA bhI hai aur koI apekShAse use dravyakA Ashray bhI hai. aise donon bAt batAte hain. usamen kis prakAr usakI apekShA samajhanI vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. koI apekShAse paryAyako svatantra bhI kahanemen AtI hai ki paryAyakA svakAl svatantra hai. aur use dravyakA Ashray bhI hai. donon apekShAonkA mel karanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. nishchay vastu svabhAv hai aur vyavahAr hai. nishchay-vyahArakI sandhi kaise karanI, vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

mumukShu- apane hAthakI bAt..

samAdhAna- svayamko mel karanA hai.

mumukShu- agnAnI kaise mel kare.

samAdhAna- usakA mel svayamko karanA hai. svakAl aur puruShArtha dononkA svayamko mel karanA hai. kyonki donon sAmane-sAmane virodh AtA hai. ek or puruShArtha aur


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ek or kAla. jis samay jo honA hogA vah hogA. to koI aisA kahe ki puruShArtha jab honA hogA tab hogA, aisA usakA artha ho jAya. usakA mel karanA. ek or puruShArtha khaDA rakhanA aur ek svakAlako khaDA rakhanA, usakA mel svayamko karanA rahatA hai. puruShArtha rakhakar (bAt hai). jise puruShArtha karanA ho use aisA hI hotA hai ki main jab puruShArtha karungA tab hotA hai. jo honevAlA hogA vah hogA, aisA lene-se AtmArthIko vah koI lAbhakA kAraN nahIn hotA.

main puruShArtha karun, aisI hI kAlalabdhi hotI hai. main puruShArtha karun, aisI hI kAlalabdhi hotI hai. aur jise AtmAkA nahIn karanA hai, use aisA ho ki jaise honA hogA vah hogA. aisA hai. AtmArthIko aisA hI hotA hai ki main puruShArtha karun, aisA hI kAl hai. aisA kAl ho hI kyun? main puruShArtha karun, aisA hI merA kAl ho. AtmArthIko hitakI or aisA hI Aye ki puruShArthapUrvakakI merI kAlalabdhi aisI hai ki mere puruShArthakI gati hI aisI ho, aisA hI merA kAl hai. dUsarA kAl ho hI nahIn.

mumukShu- mukhyatA puruShArthakI rakhe.

samAdhAna- hAn. AtmArthIonko puruShArthakI mukhyatA rakhakar kAlalabdhi lenI. akelI kAlalabdhi lene-se use AtmAkA hit honekA koI kAraN nahIn rahatA. akelA kAl kab lenA? kartAbuddhi chhoDanemen. main parapadArthako kar sakatA nahIn. jaise honA hogA, hogA. main usakA gnAtA hUn. gnAyakatAkI dhArAke liye, jaise bananA hogA vaisA banatA hai. aise svayam kartAbuddhi toDakar kahatA hai, main gnAyak hUn.

parantu jahAn Atma-hitakI bAt Aye, mere puruShArthase hotA hai. mere puruShArthakI kachAsake kAraN main rukatA hUn. mere puruShArthakA kAraN hai. isaliye kAl vaisA hI hai. main puruShArtha karun to kAl bhI palaT jAya. puruShArtha, kAlakA aisA artha usake hitakI or AtA hai.

mumukShu- AtmArthI puruShArthako mukhya rakhakar dekhatA hai.

samAdhAna- puruShArthako mukhya rakhakar kAlako grahaN karatA hai, kAlako..

mumukShu- kAlakA mel karatA hai.

samAdhAna- kAlakA mel karatA hai.

mumukShu- puruShArthakA upachAr kAl par Aye, parantu kAlakA upachAr puruShArtha par nahIn AtA.

samAdhAna- nahIn. kAlakA upachAr puruShArtha par nahIn AtA. vah hitakA kAraN nahIn hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!