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mumukShu- andarase vichAr karane par bahut bAr aisA lagatA hai ki ... phir sAnsArik kAmamen lagane par asta ho jAtA hai..

samAdhAna- svayamkI kachAs hai. andar lagan aisI honI chAhiye ki kahIn chain paDe nahIn. antaramen-se mujhe jo pragaT karanA hai vah hotA nahIn hai. bAhar kahIn sukh na lage. sukh antarake svabhAvamen hai. use khaTak rahanI chAhiye, dRuShTi kahIn thambhe nahIn, kahIn chain paDe nahIn. aisI lagan honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- ... anubhav nahIn huA hai, usakI lagan kaise lage? AtmAke AnandakI lagan lage, Atmik AnandakA anubhav nahIn huA hai. pratyakSha dekhe, sonagaDh dekhA to main kah sakatA hUn ki sonagaDhamen itanI-itanI chIj achchhI hai. sonagaDh dekhA nahIn hai. vaise AtmAkA anubhav nahIn huA hai, anajAnI vastukI lagan kaise lagAnI?

samAdhAna- usakA anubhav nahIn huA hai. usake lakShaNase nakkI kare. kahIn sukh nahIn hai, aisA to use antarase laganA chAhiye ki sukh kahIn nahIn hai. to sukh kahAn hai? sukh antar AtmAmen antaramen honA chAhiye. usakA vichAr karake lakShaNase nakkI kare. mahApuruSh kahate hain, use svayam vichArase nakkI kare ki antaramen hI sukh hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai.

sukh hai hI nahIn, aisA to vishvAs AnA chAhiye. antaramen-se vichAr karake use lage ki antaramen dekhe to sukh kahIn nahIn hai. vah svayam nakkI kar sake aisA hai. sukh andar AtmAmen bharA hai. apane vichArase nakkI ho aisA hai. usake lakShaN parase. anubhav nahIn hai to bhI.

mumukShu- pahale lakShaNase visheSh spaShTatA hogI, anubhavase, pahale to vikalpamen hI nirNay hogA, bAdamen..

samAdhAna- pahale to vikalpase nirNay kare. bAdamen anubhav hotA hai.

mumukShu- nivRutti nahIn lI hai, us sambandhit ApakA koI Adesh? lagan to Ap kahate hI ho.

samAdhAna- sabakI ruchi. nivRuttasvarUp AtmA hai. gurudevane AtmAko bahut batAyA

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hai. jise lagan lagatI hai vah chhUTatA hai. lagan nahIn hai, jise antar AtmAkI lagI nahIn hai, vah nahIn chhUTatA hai. antaramen-se nyArA honA vahI mArga hai-bhedagnAna.

mumukShu- sansArake pralobhan Age sthir nahIn rahA jAtA, us vakta usake sAmane laDaneke liye kaun-sA shastra AjamAnA chAhiye, laganIke alAvA?

samAdhAna- laganake alAvA svayamko antaramen nakkI ho jAnA chAhiye, isamen kahIn sukh hI nahIn hai. apanI ruchi laganI chAhiye, andarase utanA shraddhAkA bal AnA chAhiye. vahI usakA shastra hai. apanI shraddhA aur vaisI virakti aur aisA nishchay andarase amuk lakShaN parase nakkI honA chAhiye ki isamen kahIn sukh nahIn hai, sukh mere AtmAmen hI hai. vahI usakA andar (shastra hai). is tarah vah nyArA rah sakatA hai. svayamkI ruchise hI bhinna rah sakatA hai.

mumukShu- (yogyatA) gnAnaprAptike liye balavAn kAraN hai, to yogyatA kaisI honI chAhiye?

samAdhAna- yogyatA antaramen AtmAkI or lagan honI chAhiye. mujhe AtmAkI kaise prApti hove? aur AtmagnAn kaise hove? AtmAke alAvA kahIn chain na paDe. mujhe AtmasvarUpakI kaise prApti hove? aisI lagan laganI chAhiye. aur bAharase sab virakti ho jAy aur svabhAvamen hI lagan honI chAhiye. aisI pAtratA honI chAhiye.

shrImadamen AtA hai na? kaShAyakI upashAntatA mAtra mokSha abhilASha. mAtra mokShakI abhilASha. mAtra mujhe mokSha yAnI AtmasvabhAvakI prAptikI bhAvanA hove aur kuchh nahIn. jo anantAnubandhI kaShAy jo ananta-ananta rukanevAlA hai bAharamen ekatvabuddhi hotI hai, use aisI kaShAyakI upashAntatA honI chAhiye. aur AtmasvabhAvakI ekadam jignAsA honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- vachanAmRutamen ek bol AtA hai, mAtAjI! bandha samay jIv chetIe, uday samay shA uchAT? usakA bhAv kyA hai? mAtAjI!

samAdhAna- uday samay kyA uchAT? uday to A gayA, to us samay shAnti rakhanI. jo pUrvamen bAndhakar AyA thA, vah uday to A gayA. to us samay shAnti rakhanA ki uday to A gayA. ab gnAtA-dRuShTA hokar shAntise (vedanA). bandha samay chetanA chAhiye. jab bandha hotA hai tab pariNAm kaisA hotA hai, us samay dhyAn rakhanA. aur uday A gayA to ab kyA chintA karanI, ab to shAnti rakhanI, gnAyakatA pragaT karanI. aur bandha jab hotA hai, tab pariNAm jo ekatvabuddhi aur tanmayatA, ekadam chIkanApan hotA hai, us samay dhyAn rakhanA ki main gnAtA hUn, yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. us samay dhyAn rakhanA. bandha ho gayA, uday A gayA, phir kyA chintA (karanI)? ata shAnti rakhanI. gnAyakatA pragaT karanI.

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mumukShu- mAtAjI! pUjya gurudev kahate the, apanI shuddha paryAy bhI paradravya hai, hey hai, to ab dashA to pragaT huyI nahIn hai aur usake paradravya aur hey kaise svIkAr kare?

samAdhAna- paryAy paradravya to apekShAse (kahA hai). paradravya hai aur AtmAkI paryAy hai. usakA ek ansh hai, isaliye paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavamen paradravya hai aisA (nahIn hai). do dravya bhinna hain, chha dravya jaise bhinna-bhinna hain, aise paryAy us tarah bhinna nahIn hai. vah to dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. shuddhAtmAkI paryAy hai. parantu shuddhAtmA trikAl hai, vah ansh hai. isaliye paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. us par dRuShTi karanese bhed hotA hai. aisA bhed vikalpa nahIn karanA aur abhed par dRuShTi karanA, aisA kahate hain. usamen koI karmakI apekShA, apUrNa paryAy, pUrNa paryAy aisI apekShA AtI hai. AtmA to anAdiananta hai. isaliye paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavikamen jaise chha dravya hai, vaisA paradravya nahIn hai.

mumukShu- rAgakI paryAyako to paradravya kahenge.

samAdhAna- parake nimittase hotI hai isaliye paradravya. parantu puruShArthakI mandatAse hotI hai, isaliye vibhAvase hotI hai, apane puruShArthakI mandatAse hotI hai. dRuShTi palaT de to chhUT jAtI hai. karmake nimittase hotI hai isaliye usako paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. usamen to apUrNa, pUrNa paryAy karmakI apekShA AtI hai, apUrNa, pUrNa, karmakA abhAv huA isaliye usako paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. bhed-bhed vikalpa karanese vikalpa mishrit hotA hai isaliye usako paradravya kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavik vah shuddhAtmAke Ashrayase hotI hai aur kShaNik hai. apekShA samajhanI chAhiye.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! vartamAn gnAn paryAy hai. lakShaN dvArA lakShya AtmAkI prasiddhi karanA. vartamAnamen jo matignAnakI paryAy hai, usase lakShya AtmAkI prasiddhi ho jAyagI?

samAdhAna- vartamAn gnAnakI paryAy hai, us lakShaNase lakShya pahachAnanA. dravya par dRuShTi karake dravyamen-se shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu matignAn lakShaN hai, lakShyako pahachAnanA. lakShaNase lakShya chaitanyadravyako grahaN karanA. aisA kahanemen AtA hai.

matignAn khaNDa hai, adhUrA gnAnase pUrA gnAn hotA hai, aisA nahIn. dravyake Ashrayase pUrA gnAn hotA hai. pUrI paryAy, shuddha paryAy dravyake Ashrayase shuddha paryAy hotI hai. aise matignAn to bIchamen AtA hai. matignAnake lakShaNase AtmAko pahachAnanA.

mumukShu- kal jo Tepamen AtA hai, gurudev kah rahe the ki kharekhar to paradravyako jAnatA hI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- paradravyako jAnatA nahIn hai arthAt apanA gnAnasvabhAvako (jAnatA hai).

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isaliye parako jAnanekA svabhAv nahIn hai, usakA svaparaprakAshak svabhAv hI nahIn hai aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. jAnatA nahIn hai arthAt us or upayog nahIn karatA hai, usamen pariNati ekatvatA nahIn karatI hai. aur is or upayog apane svabhAvamen pariNati lIn ho jAy to sahaj jAnanemen AtA hai. isaliye parako jAnatA nahIn hai. nishchayadRuShTise apane gnAnako jAnatA hai, paradravyako nahIn jAnatA hai. usamen parakA gnAn nahIn hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai. parako jAnanekA svabhAv hai AtmAkA. parakA gnAn AtmAmen nahIn AtA hai, parako bilakUl jAnatA hI nahIn hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. upayog us or nahIn karatA hai.

matignAnase kevalagnAn hotA hai, vah to sAdhak paryAy jo svAnubhUti hotI hai, vah matignAn-shrutagnAnamen hotI hai. sAdhakaparyAyase pUrI paryAy (hotI hai), aisA kahanemen AtA hai. matignAn, shrutagnAn kevalagnAnako lAtA hai, aisA bhI kahanemen AtA hai. isaliye matignAn, shrutagnAn jo svAnubhUtikI paryAy pragaT huyI usase pUrI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, aisA bhI kahanemen AtA hai. dravyadRuShTise pUrNatA hotI hai aur matignAn svAnubhUtikA ek ansh pragaT huA to usase pUrNatA hotI hai. sAdhak paryAy baDhate-baDhate, usakI vRuddhi hote-hote pUrNatA hotI hai, aisA kahanemen AtA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! jaise shraddhA aur chAritraguNakI paryAyamen vidhavidh pariNaman chal rahA hai anAdise, to vaise gnAnakI paryAyamen bhI viparIt pariNaman ho gayA hai?

samAdhAna- shraddhA aur chAritramen viparItatA hotI hai, aise gnAnamen viparItatA, gnAn viparIt nahIn hotA hai. gnAnamen jAnanemen viparItatA hotI hai. aise. shraddhAke kAraNase usamen viparItatA kahanemen AtI hai. jAnanA to jAnanA hai, parantu shraddhA viparIt hai isaliye gnAn bhI viparIt kahanemen AtA hai. shraddhAkI viparItatAke kAraN gnAn bhI viparIt kahanemen AtA hai. shraddhA yadi samyak ho jAy to gnAn bhI samyak ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- vachanAmRutamen ek bol AtA hai ki chaitanyake pariNAmake sAth kudarat bandhI huyI hai, aisA vastukA svabhAv hai. kaise hai mAtAjI?

samAdhAna- jo chaitanyakA pariNAm hai, jo bhAvanA hotI hai ki mujhe AtmAkA svabhAv pragaT karanA hai, to aisI pariNati hotI hI hai. jisakI jo bhAvanA hotI hai, vaise kudarat pariNamatI hI hai. yadi pariName nahIn to dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. jo dravyakI bhAvanA hotI hai, us rUp pariNaman hotA hai. apanA aur dUsarekA. svayam upAdAn- nimittakA aisA sambandha hai.

jaisI bhAvanA hotI hai vaise kudarat pariNamatI hai. nahIn to dravyakA nAsh hotA hai. aisA vastukA svabhAv hI hai. is tarah gnAn, darshan, chAritra jaisI bhAvanA ho vaise pariNamatI

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hai. aise bAharamen bhI nimitta bhI svayam pariNamatA hai, upAdAn bhI pariNamatA hai. aisA kudarat-aisA svabhAv hai. parantu yathArtha honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- ek bol aur AtA hai, mAtAjI! ki jAgatA jIv vidyamAn hai, kahAn jAy? jAgatA jIv mAne kaisA?

samAdhAna- AtmA to jAgRut hI hai. vah sadAke liye shAshvat jAgRut hI hai. gnAnasvarUp jAgRut hI hai. usakA nAsh nahIn huA hai. nahIn jAnatA hai aisA jaD nahIn ho gayA hai. jAgatA jIv jAgRut hI hai, vidyamAn hai. svayam lakShya kare to pragaT ho aisA hai. jAgRut hI hai. jAgatA jIv vidyamAn hI hai, shAshvat vidyamAn hai. us par dRuShTi karake jAne to avashya pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- .. puruShArtha karanekI yukti sUjh jAy to mArgakI ulajhan Tal jAya.

samAdhAna- bhItaramen gnAyakasvabhAv AtmAkA gnAnalakShaN pahachAn le ki yah lakShaN merA hai, yah lakShaN vibhAv lakShaN hai, yah svabhAv lakShaN hai. svabhAv lakShaNako pahachAnakarake pariNati usamen dRuDh kare, dRuDh pratIt kare, usakA gnAn dRuDh kare, usamen lInatA kare. aise puruShArthakI kal sUjh jAy aisI kalA sUjh jAya. bhItaramen jAnekA rAstA use hAthamen A jAy to ulajhan Tal jAya. aise.

svabhAvake lakShaNako pahachAn le. bhItaramen gaharAImen jAkar, gahare jAkar lakShaNako grahaN kar le aur bhItaramen pariNati dRuDh kare to usakI ulajhan Tal jAya. kalA sUjh jAtI hai. parantu dhIrA hokar AtmAko grahaN karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- rAjachandrajIke vachanAmRutamen AtA hai ki gnAnI guruko pahachAne to apanI AtmAkI pahachAn ho hI ho. to gnAnI guru kaise pahachAne?

samAdhAna- gnAnI guru pahachAnamen A jAte hain. jisako sat svarUpakI jignAsA lagatI hai ki mujhe sat kaise pragaT ho? to use gnAnI, ye sat gnAnI hai, aisA usako pahachAnamen A jAtA hai. gnAnI hai, AtmA nyArA koI apUrva kAm kar rahA hai, unakI vANI apUrva hai, ye apUrva hai. use pIchhAn le to mArga hAthamen A jAtA hai. gnAnIko pIchhAn letA hai.

jisako satakI jignAsA pragaT hotI hai, vah gnAnIko pahachAn letA hai. usakA netra aisA nirmal ho jAtA hai, vah gnAnIko pahachAn letA hai. aur jo gnAnIko pIchhAn le vah apane AtmAko pIchhAn letA hai.

mumukShu- sharIr, rAgase ekatvabuddhi varta rahI hai, to ye ekatvabuddhi kaise toDe?

samAdhAna- ekatvabuddhi bhedagnAnase TUT jAtI hai. bhedagnAn kare to ekatvabuddhi TUT jAya. bhedagnAn karanese ekatvabuddhi TUT jAtI hai.

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mumukShu- samyagdarshanakA viShayabhUt AtmA kaisA hai?

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakA viShayabhUt? AtmA anAdiananta shAshvat hai. us par dRuShTi kare. ananta guNase bharapUr AtmA shAshvat hai. guN par dRuShTi nahIn hai, koI bhed par dRuShTi nahIn hai. abhed AtmA par dRuShTi karanA. ek chaitanyatattva par, abhed par dRuShTi karanA. vah samyagdarshanakA viShayabhUt AtmA hai. parase vibhakta kar svabhAvamen ekatvabuddhi karake, guNakA bhed nahIn, paryAyakA bhed nahIn ek chaitanya gnAyak astitva par usakI dRuShTi karanA, vah samyagdarshanakA viShayabhUt AtmA hai.

mumukShu- .. kabhI to aisA lagatA hai ki ye paraprakAshak hai hI nahIn. kabhI aisA lagatA hai ki svaparaprakAshak hai. usamen Ap spaShTa khulAsA...

samAdhAna- gurudev to apekShAse sab bolate the. paraprakAsh nahIn hai, to vah nishchayakI apekShAse kahate hain. gnAn gnAnako jAnatA hai, gnAn parako nahIn jAnatA hai. usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki jAnanekA svabhAv nahIn hai. svabhAvakA nAsh nahIn hotA hai. gurudev to aisA kahate hain, svamen jab upayog jAtA hai, AtmAmen pariNati hotI hai to gnAn gnAnako jAnatA hai. paramen jAtA hI nahIn hai. isaliye gnAn gnAnako hI jAnatA hai. gnAnakI pariNati gnAnamen hotI hai. isaliye parako nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA isakA artha hai.

parantu gnAnakA svaparaprakAshak svabhAv hai, us svabhAvakA nAsh nahIn hotA. gnAn usakA nAm hai ki jo anantako jAne. isaliye jAnanekI maryAdA nahIn hotI hai. gnAn usakA nAm kahanemen AtA hai ki jo pUrNa jAne. itanA jAne aur itanA nahIn jAne, aisA gnAnakA svabhAv nahIn hai. gnAn to pUrNa jAnatA hai. isaliye gnAnamen parako jAnanekA AtA nahIn hai aisA nahIn hai. gnAnakA svabhAv sab gneyako jAnatA hai. ananta kAl gayA, ananta dravya pariNaman karate hain. ananta dravyake guN, ananta guNakI paryAy, ananta chaitanya dravya, usake ananta guN, usakI ananta paryAy sab gnAnamen A jAtA hai. gnAnakI paryAyamen sab A jAtA hai. kevalagnAn sabako jAnatA hai.

isaliye paraprakAshak nahIn hai usakA artha apanA gnAnakA upayog paramen nahIn jAtA hai, gnAn gnAnamen pariNaman karatA hai. isaliye parako nahIn jAnatA hai. gnAn gnAnamen hai, apanA svabhAv apanemen rahatA hai, paramen nahIn jAtA hai. isaliye gnAn gnAnarUp pariNaman karatA hai, isaliye parako nahIn jAnatA hai. usakA aisA svabhAv nahIn hai ki gnAn parako jAnatA hI nahIn hai, jAnanekA svabhAv hI nahIn hai. jAnanekA svabhAv hai AtmAkA, svaparaprakAshak hai, parako jAnatA hai, nahIn jAnatA hai aisA nahIn.

gurudev donon bAt karate hai. donon bAtamen mel karanA chAhiye. nahIn jAnatA hai aisA kahate hain to koI apekShAse kahate hain. nahIn jAnatA hai, bilakUl nahIn jAnatA hai aisA

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usakA artha nahIn hai. jAnanekA usakA svabhAv hI nahIn hai, aisA nahIn hai. jAnatA hai. gnAn anantako nahIn jAne to us gnAnakI mahimA (kyA)? gnAn anantako jAnatA hai. sabako jAnatA hai. gnAnamen kuchh gupta nahIn rahatA hai. sab gneyonko jAnatA hai, ananta gneyonko jAnatA hai, gnAn to. isaliye svaparaprakAshak gnAnakA svabhAv hai. usakA upayog paramen nahIn jAtA hai, apanemen pariNaman karatA hai.

mumukShu- svaparaprakAshak shakti to ek hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, svaparaprakAshak shakti ek hai.

mumukShu- ek hI hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, ek hI hai. svarUpamen pariNaman karatA hai. svako jAnatA hai, parako jAnatA hai. sab ekasAth jAnatA hai. usamen kram nahIn paDatA hai. sva aur par dononko ekasAth jAnatA hai. aisA gnAnakA svabhAv hai. ekasAth jAnatA hai. jAnanekA svabhAvakA nAsh nahIn hotA hai.