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samAdhAna- ... ananta kAl-se bAhya kriyAmen sab mAn baiThA hai, parantu bAharamen- se, koI vibhAvamen-se vah svabhAv nahIn AtA hai. parantu svabhAvamen-se svabhAv AtA hai. isaliye usakA bhedagnAn kare ki vibhAvabhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aisI antaramen bhinna shraddhA-pratIti kare, usakA gnAn kare aur us rUp pariNati kare to pragaT ho.

use karaneke liye usakI lagan, usakI mahimA, sab vahI karanekA hai. us jAtakA vichAr, vAnchan, vah jabatak na ho tabatak shAstrakA abhyAs kare, vAnchan kare, laganI, mahimA kare. gurudevane kahA hai usI mArga par jAnA hai. usakI apUrvatA laganI chAhiye, antaramen usakI mahimA laganI chAhiye. ye sab bAhar kuchh apUrva nahIn hai. ananta kalamen sab kiyA, parantu ek AtmAkA svarUp nahIn jAnA hai. bAharamen use sab apUrvatA lagI, bAharakI apUrvatA vah apUrvatA nahIn hai. antarakI apUrva vastu antaramen hai. bAharamenn kuchh navInatA hai hI nahIn. bAharakI jo mahimA lagatI hai, vah chhUTakar antarakI mahimA honI chAhiye.

..svabhAvamen-se pragaT hotA hai, chAritra apanemen-se pragaT hotA hai, sab apanemen- se hI pragaT hotA hai. suvarNamen-se suuvarNake hI gahane hote hain, holemen-se lohekA hotA hai. vaise svabhAvamen-se hI svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. use bAharamen dev-guru-shAstra nimitta hote hain. parantu upAdAn svayamko taiyAr karanA hai. ananta kAlamen jIvane dharma sunA nahIn hai aur sunAnavAle jinendra dev, guru mile aur yadi apUrvatA lage to antaramen use deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAkA sambandha hai. parantu karanekA svayamko hai. karanA svayam, antaramen svayamko puruShArtha karanA hai.

mumukShu- andar-se use jignAsA jAgRut honI chAhiye.

samAdhAna- andar svayamko laganA chAhiye ki mujhe karanA hI hai. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? aisA svayamko laganA chAhiye to ho. use bAharamen kahIn sukh lage nahIn, shAnti lage nahIn, shAnti andaramen-se kaise pragaT ho? usakI jignAsA jAganI chAhiye.

mahimA karanI, laganI karanI, vichAr karanA, vAnchan karanA, shAstra abhyAs (karanA),

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usakA abhyAs karanA. bhedagnAn kaise ho, usakA abhyAs karanA. pahale bhedagnAnakA abhyAs (karanA). andar ruchi laganI chAhiye. ruchi lage to vah abhyAs kare. svayamko vah karanA hai. usakI ruchi laganI chAhiye. antaramen-se yathArtha pariNati to bAdamen hotI hai, pahale usakA abhyAs kare. vah nahIn ho tabataka.

samAdhAna- .. bhedagnAn karaneke liye utanI laganI, utanI mahimA, shrutakA vAnchan, vichAr sab hotA hai. taiyArI ho to ho. bhedagnAnakI pariNati ho to svAnubhUti ho. taiyArI karanI.

ananta kAlamen bAharakA sab bahut kiyA hai, ek antaramen dRuShTi karake AtmAkA pahichAnanA vah karanA hai. kriyAen kI, shubhabhAv kiye, sab kiyA, devalok milA, sab milA parantu bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA. bhavakA abhAv honekA mArga gurudevane batAyA hai. muktikA mArga antaramen hai. gurudevane koI apUrva mArga batAyA hai. dRuShTi kare to mAlUm paDe aisA hai. gurudevane chAron pahalUon-se samajhAyA hai. AtmAkA dravya-guN-paryAy kyA? vibhAv kyA? pudagal kyA? sab batAyA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnIke binA akele to kuchh samajhamen AtA nahIn.

samAdhAna- gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai. usakA mUl Ashay grahaN kar lenA, gurudevane kyA kahA hai, vaha. usake liye satsang aur svayamko jahAn-se samajhamen Aye, gurudev virAjate the vah bAt alag thI, parantu gurudevane jo samajhAyA hai usakA Ashay grahaN karanA. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako grahaN karanA. apane dravya-guN-paryAy, chaitanyake chaitanyamen. paradravyake paradravyamen hai. vah samajhanA.

jo bhagavAnako, guruko pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai. aisA sambandha hai. gurune kyA kiyA? gurudev kyA kahate the? aise yathArthapane jAne to apane svarUpako jAne. aisA sambandha hai. isaliye main kaun hUn? jo svayamko pahichAne vah dev-guruko pahichAne aur dev-guruko pahichAne vah svayamko pahichAnatA hai. isaliye chaitanyakA dravya, chaitanya vastu kyA? usake guN kyA? usakI paryAy kyA? usakI pariNati kaisI (hotI hai)? antaramen kaisA AtmA hai? usakA vichAr kare. jo gurudevane kahA us mArga par, Ashay grahaN karake vah vichAr kare. vah na ho tabatak usakA bArambAr abhyAs kare.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- manuShya jIvanamen ye kuchh navIn karanA hai, ye kuchh navIn nahIn hai. ananta kAl aise hI vyatIt ho gayA, aise bhav ananta hue. usamen is bhavamen panchamakAlamen gurudev mile. is kAlamen aisI vANI sunAnevAle, aisA mArga samajhanevAle milanA durlabh hai. isaliye AtmA hI sarvasva hai, us taraphakA puruShArtha aur khaTak honI chAhiye.

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main gnAyak hUn, main chaitanya hUn, gnAtA hUn aisI bhedagnAnakI pariNatikA abhyAs karanA. mUl vastu yah hai. ekatvabuddhiko toDanA. ekatva toDakar svarUpakA ekatva kare. chaitanyamen ekatva, parase vibhakta hUn, usakA abhyAs karanA. sUkShma rUpase bahut samajhAyA hai, karanekA svayamko ho. ... AtmA hai. bAharamen kuchh anupamatA hai hI nahIn, anupamasvarUp AtmA hai. usImen- se pragaT ho aisA hai.

samAdhAna- .. anuyAyI aur shiShyomen kuchh pharka nahIn hai. gurudevake har gAmvamen shiShya hain. yahAn bhI hai, sab gurudevake shiShya hI hain. (gurudev) alaukik puruSh the, mahApuruSha. gurudev jaisA to koI hai hI nahIn. gurudev to koI adabhut vyakti is panchamakAlamen hue. gurudevakI vANI bahut logonne grahaN kI hai.

... tIrthankaradevako jo samavasaraNakI rachanA hotI hai, bhagavAnakI divyadhvani chhUTe, usakA atishay, unakI vANI, samavasaraNamen kitane hI jIv (hote hain), chaturvidh sangh vANI sunate hain. tIrthankar bhagavAnakA atishay alag hI hotA hai. unake pratAp-se anek munivRund hote hain. to bhI koI muni, tIrthankarakI tulanAmen unake jaisA atishay kisIkA nahIn hotA. usamen aisA kahe ki tIrthankarake bAd kaun? tIrthankar tIrthankar hI hote hain, unake jaisA koI nahIn hotA. tIrthankarake bAd kisakI sthApanA karanI, aisA hotA hI nahIn. tIrthankarake bAd koI hotA hI nahIn. munionkA samUh hotA hai, parantu tIrthankar jaisI vANI kisIkI nahIn hotI.

.. unakI koI sthApanA nahIn hotI. unakI dhvani chhUTe, parantu tIrthankarakA atishay to tIrthankarako hI hotA hai. unake bAd kaun? aisI koI sthApanA nahIn hotI ki tIrthankarake bAd kisako sthApanA. muni Adi hote hain, unakI sthApanA nahIn hotI. kyonki tIrthankar jaisA koI hotA hI nahIn.

mumukShu- gaNadhar to hote hain na.

samAdhAna- tIrthankar jaisA koI hotA hI nahIn. vah sab to chhadmastha hote hain. tIrthankar jaisA koI hotA hI nahIn. unake bAd kaun? aisA kuchh hotA hI nahIn. vah to jinhonne vANI grahaN kI, to aise hI mArga chalatA hai. vANI grahaN kI aur AtmAkI sAdhanA karanevAle bahut jIv hote hain. AtmAkI sAdhanA kare usImen mArga chalatA hai. aise sAdhak jIv bahut hote hain.

mumukShu- siddha hokar unake jaisA ban sakate hain, parantu bAhar atishayamen koI samAnatA nahIn hotI.

samAdhAna- atishayamen samAn ho hI nahIn sakatA. unake bAd unake jaisA koI hotA hI nahIn. sAdhanA karanevAle bahut milenge, parantu unake jaisA koI nahIn milatA.

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mumukShu- gurudevakA hI mArga chal rahA hai.

samAdhAna- munion-se, unakI sAdhanA-se sab chale. parantu unake jaisI vANI kisIkI nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- ... tIrthankarakA thA, to unakI vANImen aisI sAtishayatA thI yA unako sunanevAlommen bhI bahut mArgako pravartAnevAle unake pIchhe (hote hain)?

samAdhAna- unakI vANImen aisA atishay thA. kuchh taiyAr hote hain, AtmAmeen taiyAr ho jAte hain. unakA atishay aisA thA. anek jIv jAgRut ho jAy, AtmAmen. usakA puNyakA mel nahIn hotA. .. parantu bhagavAn jaisI vANIkA atishay aur vaisI jo rachanA hotI hai, vah nahIn hotA. vItarAgI vANI (hotI hai), vANImen vItarAgatA barasatI hai.

mumukShu- kevalagnAn prApta kar le vah alag bAt hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, kevalagnAn prApta kar le, parantu bAharakA sab vaisA hI ho aisA nahIn. usake sAth kisIkA mel nahIn hotA.

AchAryake bAd AchArya, aise sthApanA ho sakatI hai. bhagavAnake sAth kisIkI sthApanA nahIn ho sakatI. gurudev tIrthankar jaise vartamAnakAlamanen hue, vah dravya hI aisA thA.

mumukShu- tIrthankarakA dravya aur vaisA hI yoga.

samAdhAna- tIrthankarakA dravya thA. AchAryake bAd AchArya hote hain, munike bAd muni hote hain. aisA hotA hai. .. vaisA atishay yA vRundakA vRund taiyAr ho, aisA nahIn hotA. gurudev-se sab samUh taiyAr huA, aisA sab nahIn ho sakatA.

samAdhAna- vikalpa rahit jo Ananda Ave, vah Ananda aur vikalpa rahit Ananda, andar rAg chhUTakar jo Ananda Ave, us Anandamen pharka hotA hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- vah to antarmuhUrtakI hI sthiti hotI hai. .. phir to dashA to svayam adhik puruShArtha kare to hotI hai. puruShArtha kare. abhI dravya aur paryAyakA mel samajhanA chAhiye ki dravya aur paryAy kyA hai.

mumukShu- pariNAmI AtmA aur apariNAmI.

samAdhAna- pariNAmI hai. kis apekShA-se pariNAmI hai? kis apekShA-se nahIn hai. vah sab apekShA samajhakar usakA mel karanA chAhiye. vikalpa-se rahit AtmA hai. AtmAmen hai hI nahIn aisA nakkI kiyA, parantu usakI gauNatAmen dekhe to vikalpa hai. parantu vikalpa mUl svarUpamen nahIn hai.

jaise sphaTik maNi hai vah svabhAv-se nirmal hai. nirmal hai, parantu lAl-pIle phUlakA

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sanyog ho to vah lAl dikhatA hai. parantu vah lAl bAhar-se nahIn AyA hai, parantu sphaTik svayam pariNamit huA hai.

vaise jIv svayam pariNamatA hai. kuchh nahIn hai arthAt mAtra bhrAnti hI hai aur agnAn hai, vah apekShA-se barAbar hai. parantu dUsarI apekShA-se dekhe to use anAdi kAlase vedan hotA hai, rAgakA, dukhakA vedan kisako hotA hai? mujhe dukh-se chhUTanA hai, yah mujhe dukh hotA hai, mujhe AkulatA hotI hai. vah vedan andaramen hotA hai. to vah vedan ek paryAyamen hai, mUl vastumen nahIn hai. vedan paryAyamen hai, vastumen to nahIn hai. parantu vastumen nahIn hai, aisA nakkI kiyA. phir bhI bAhar usake vedanamen amuk khaDA rahatA hai. isaliye vah shraddhA barAbar karake, bhedagnAnakI dhArA aisI hI rahanI chAhiye ki kShaN- kShaNamen, kShaN-kShaNamen jaise vikalpakI dhArA chalatI hai, utanI hI usake sAmane dhArA chalanI chAhiye. ... andarase chalanI chAhiye.

gnAyakadhArA aisI chale to usamen-se svAnubhUti ho. to usakI dashA chAlU ho. svAnubhUti nahIn ho to usakI dashA chAlU nahIn hotI. usakI dhArA chalanI chAhiye. andar-se aisI bhAvanA kare ki main bhinna, meremen kuchh nahIn hai, main to bhagavAn jaisA hUn. andar aisI bhAvanA, vairAgya ho jAya. parantu us jAtakA vedan hokar use svAnubhUti honI chAhiye. aur usakI dhArA andaramen (chalanI chAhiye). bAharamen kuchh bhI kAm kare to kShaN- kShaNamen (chalanI chAhiye). phir bhUl jAy aur yAd kare, bhUl jAy aur yAd kare aise nahIn, parantu use andar dhArA hI chalanI chAhiye. dhArA chale aur svAnubhUti bAr-bAr ho to use vikalpa chhUTakar Ananda Aye. vikalpa chhUTe binA Ananda nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- vikalpa chhUTe nahIn to aisA apUrva Ananda pragaT hI nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- hAn, to apUrva Ananda pragaT hI nahIn ho.

mumukShu- mujhe to dhruv jaisA nishchay hai. bas, ..

samAdhAna- dhruv, achal... dhruv bhI sirpha dhruv nahIn hai, parantu gnAyak dhruv hai. gnAyakatAse bharA huA dhruv hai. aisA dhruvakA nishchay barAbar, phir paryAyamen kyA hai? vah svayam nakkI karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- main kahatI hUn, aisA hI nishchay hai ki AtmA prApta karake rahUngI. pUrNa vItarAg honA, us prakArakA .. kabhI chhUTe nahIn aisA.

samAdhAna- vah to achchhI bAt hai. svayam jyAdA Age baDhanA. jyAdA Age baDhanA bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShu- Age jAnA hai, isIliye kis prakAr... mumukShu- vah kahatI hai, pUrNapane pragaT ho..

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samAdhAna- vah to kevalagnAn huA. muumukShu- aisA hai ki honA hI hai. samAdhAna- honA hai, vah pUrNa kevalagnAn hai aur abhI to dravyadRuShTi kar sakatA hai, gnAyakakI dhArA kar sakatA hai. utanA kar sakatA hai. aur svAnubhUti kar sakatA hai. jyAdA to andar sahaj dashA ho to hotA hai.

mumukShu- Apako khyAl nahIn A sakatA?

samAdhAna- Apake parichay-se (aisA lagatA hai ki) abhI Apako Age baDhanekI jarUrat hai.

mumukShu- hAn, vah barAbara. parantu svAnubhUti huyI hai yA nahIn, aisA khyAlamen Aye ki nahIn?

samAdhAna- ApakA Ap nakkI kar sakate ho. main kaise kahUn?

mumukShu- apane-se Upar koI ho aur apaneko kahe to kitanA pharka paDatA hai.

samAdhAna- ApakA pahalekA jIvan, bAdakA jIvan mujhe kuchh mAlUm nahIn hai. main aise kaise kah sakUn? ye brahmachArI bahane yahAn hameshA parichayamen rahatI hai to main jAn sakatI hUn ki isamen kyA pharka hai. Age baDho, itanA kahUn. Age baDhanemen koI dikkat nahIn hai.

mumukShu- ..

samAdhAna- Age baDhanemen to koI dikkat nahIn hai. dravya-paryAyakA mel karanA, usamen koI dikkat nahIn hai. dravyamen nahIn hai, paryAyamen hai. paryAy kaise (pragaT ho), usamen svayam visheSh Age baDhe. usakA ... gnAyakakI dhArA kaise chAlU ho? bArambAr vah karate rahanA. gnAyakakI dhArA chale. ... gaI to vApas kaise AyI? Akhir tak puruShArtha to karanA hI rahatA hai. puruShArtha chhUT jAy to vahI dashA hotI hai. puruShArtha to Akhir tak karanA rahatA hai. isaliye puruShArtha karate rahanA.

Apako lage ki mujhe hai. parantu main kaise kah sakUn? Apako puruShArtha karate rahanA. ho gayA ho to achchhI bAt hai, nahIn huA ho to puruShArtha karanA. ... main kaise kah sakUn?

mumukShu- main kisIko pUchhatI nahIn. Ap par mujhe shraddhA hai.

samAdhAna- mAno ki ho gayA hai, to achchhI bAt hai. nahIn huA ho to puruShArtha jyAdA karanA. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karake svAnubhUti (pragaT karanI). ab vah upasham chalA gayA to phir-se pragaT karanA to rahatA hI hai. abhI pUrNatAmen to der hai. abhI to samyagdarshanakI dashAko hI chAlU rakhanekI jarUrat hai. samyagdarshanakI dashA hI chAlU rakhanI

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mushkil hai. ho jAy phir use chAlU rakhanI mushkil hai.

... dikhatA nahIn, paryAyamen dekhe to dikhatA hai. un dononkA mel karake us prakArakA puruShArtha karanA. us tarah puruShArthakI dhArA pragaT karanI. mArga nikAlanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. .. puruShArtha-se hotA hai.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- paripUrNa hUn. parantu vibhAv anAdikA hai, usakA barAbar gnAn karake Age jAy to kahIn bhUl nahIn paDatI. usakA yathArtha gnAn karanA hai. svayam jAnatA hai ki ye vibhAv hai. vibhAvakA gnAn rahanA chAhiye ki ye ek vikalpakI dhArA bhale hI mujhamen nahIn hai, parantu ye sab vikalpa khaDe hain. gharakA, bAharakA, sab vikalpa khaDe hain. vikalpa hai, .. usamen-se vikalpa utpanna hote hain. isaliye vikalpa to hai, vibhAv to khaDA hai. isaliye usakA use gnAn vartatA hai. ... isaliye gnAyakakI ugratA ho to vah chhUTe.

pahale to shraddhA aur pratItamen Aye. svAnubhUti to ho, parantu usake bAd to kitanI ugratA ho tab mUlamense chhUTatA hai. kevalagnAn, munidashA vah to antarmuhUrtakA upayog ki jo ek samayakA upayog ho to ekadam ho. abhI to vah svAnubhUti tak pahunchatA hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karanI hai.

mumukShu- meremen rAgakA uday hI nahIn hotA hai, gnAnakA uday hotA hai. samAdhAna- gnAnakA uday hotA hai, barAbar hai. rAgakA uday hai hI nahIn vah dravyadRuShTi-se barAbar hai. paryAyamen hai usakA gnAn karanA. usakI mahimA Aye vah barAbar hai ki rAgakA uday nahIn hai, gnAnakA uday ho rahA hai. usakI mahimA Aye, us jAtakI bhAvanA Aye, us jAtakA vairAgya ho, parantu usakA gnAn to honA chAhiye. to puruShArtha Age baDhe. nahIn to puruShArtha Age nahIn baDhe. mujhamen kuchh hai hI nahIn, aisI mahimA karatA rahe, puruShArtha Age nahIn baDhatA. aisA gnAn kare to puruShArtha Age nahIn baDhatA. abhI itanA bAkI hai, use gnAnamen na rakhe to puruShArtha Age nahIn baDh sakatA. ... meremen kuchh nahIn hai, main to gnAyak hUn. kuchh hai hI nahIn to puruShArtha kaise Age baDhe?