Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 44.

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mumukShu- AtmA kaisA hai?

samAdhAna- AtmA ananta guNase bharA koI apUrva tattva hai, vah anupam tattva hai. jise jagatamen kisIkI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. koI jaD tattva yA koI bAharakA devalok yA chakravartIkA pad yA aur kisIkI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI, aisA chaitanyatattva vah chamatkArI anupam tattva hai. usakA Ananda koI alag hai, usakA gnAn alag hai, vah mahimAvant padArtha hai. shAshvat hai. vah AtmA koI alag hI tattva hai, apUrva tattva hai. jagatase koI alag hai. duniyA jo jagatamen dikhatA hai usase koI alag hI tattva hai. usakI svAnubhUti kare to hI vah pahachAnanemen Aye aisA hai.

pahale vichArase nakkI kare ki AtmA kaisA hai? usakA svabhAv gnAn lakShaNase pahachAnanemen AtA hai. usakA gnAnalakShaN mukhya hai. bAkI ananta guNase bharA agAdh tattva hai. us tattvakI pratIti karake, vichAr karake, andar svAnubhUtimen usakA anubhav ho aisA koI apUrva anupam padArtha hai. usakI mahimA kare to hI vah Age jA sakatA hai.

chakravartIke pad Adi sab bAharake pad usake Age phike hain. ek Atmapad hI shreShTha aur sArabhUt hai. vahI rasamay hai. bAkI sab jagatakI vastu usake pAs nIras aur phikI hai. aisA vah anupam tattva hai. AAcharyadev kahate hain, ham antaramen jAte hain. AtmAke alAvA hamen bAharakA sab tuchchha aur phIkA lagatA hai. ek AtmA hI sarvoparI tattva, Urdhva ek hI tattva sarvasva hai. ham jisakA nirantar anubhav karate hain, vahI tattva sarvase shreShTha hai, aisA anupam tattva hai.

mumukShu- ... kramabaddhamen kaise ghaTit karen? vartamAnakA puruShArtha bhAvike kramabaddhamen us pariNAmarUp to nahIn ho sakatA na ki vahAn-se ... le jAy athavA aise koI sanyog Aye ki jo vartamAnamen is orakA puruShArtha hai, usase viparIt kramabaddha ho, aisA to hotA hI nahIn.

samAdhAna- jis prakArakA puruShArtha hotA hai, usI prakArakA usakA kramabaddha hotA hai. usI prakArakI usakI vartamAn ruchi hai. AtmAkI or jisakI ruchi hai, jise gnAyakakI prIti hai, gnAyak hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. yah sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna.


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bhedagnAn karanekI jisakI bhAvanA hai, vibhAv parase jisakI ruchi chhUT gayI hai, laukik sab kArya parase jisakI ruchi chhUTakar ek AtmA, lokottar jo AtmA alaukik hai, us par jisakI ruchi lagI hai, vahI mujhe chAhiye, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. ek gnAyak, us gnAyakamen hI jise sarvasva lagA hai. aisA bhedagnAn karanekA prayAs karanekI jise ruchi, jignAsA hai, aisA jo vartamAnamen puruShArtha karatA hai, usakA kramabaddha usake anukUl hI hotA hai. usakA kramabaddha viparIt ho hI nahIn sakatA. puruShArtha gnAyakakI orakA kare aur usakA kramabaddha sansArakI orakA ho, aisA ho hI nahIn sakatA.

jisakI ruchi gnAyakakI or hai, usake kramabaddhamen gnAyakakI hI pariNati hotI hai. usase alag kramabaddha ho hI nahIn sakatA. koI aisA vichAr kare ki gnAyakakI to ruchi hai, lekin kramabaddha dUsarA hogA to? aisA ban sakatA nahIn. isaliye gnAyakakI ruchi, gnAyakakA puruShArtha tU kar to terA kramabaddha usI prakAr pariNamit huA rahatA hai. isaliye kramabaddhakI chintA nahIn karanI, svayam puruShArtha karanA. puruShArtha kare usakA bhAvikA kramabaddha gnAyakakI orakA hI hotA hai.

mumukShu- vartamAn sat hai, aisA kahanemen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- jo vartamAnamen gnAyakakI orakA puruShArtha karatA hai, usakA kramabaddha usI prakArase pariNamit huA rahatA hai. vartamAn sat hai vah to gnAyak svayam sat hI hai. lekin vartamAnamen svayam gnAyakakI or puruShArtha kare to usakA kramabaddha vaisA hI hotA hai. jaisA puruShArtha, vaisA hI usakA kramabaddha hotA hai. jo aisA kahe ki kyA karen, kramabaddhamen jo honevAlA hogA vah hogA. vah bAt jUThI hai. jaisA puruShArtha, vaisA usakA kramabaddha.

kramabaddhako dekhane nahIn jAnA paDatA, kramaddhakI chintA nahIn karanI paDatI ki kramabaddha kaisA hogA? aur kyA hogA? bhaviShyakI chintA nahIn karanI paDatI. kramabaddhako kahIn dekhane nahIn jAnA paDatA. kramabaddhako pUchhane nahIn jAnA paDatA. svayam gnAyakakI or puruShArtha kare to usakA kramabaddha vaisA hI hotA hai. use (vaisA hI) sambandha hotA hai.

... jo AtmAko-shuddhAtmAko pahachAne use shuddha paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. jo AtmAko ashuddha ekatvabuddhi... jise ekatvabuddhikI or ras hai, ekamek mAnatA hai, use ashuddha AtmAkI prApti hotI hai. ashuddha paryAyen hotI hai. jise gnAyakakI or, shuddhAtmAkI or (ruchi hai), use shuddha paryAyen pariNamatI haiain. svayam dhIrajase vichAr karake puruShArtha kare, jignAsAse bhAvanAse jo gnAyakakI or puruShArtha kare to use kramabaddhakI chintA karanekI jarUrat nahIn hai.

kramabaddha (arthAt) bAharamen puNya-pApakA jo uday AnevAlA hai vah AtA hai. use


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vah badal nahIn sakatA. bAharakA puNyakA uday AnevAlA ho to puNyakA Aye, pApakA (ho to pApakA Aye). sharIrakA rog-nirog, dhan, nirdhan vah sab puNya-pApake kAraN AtA hai. usamen svayam pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA. gnAyakakI or ruchi karanI, puruShArtha karanA, vah chaitanyakI pariNatike hAthamen hai. phir kitanA puruShArtha chale vah usakI jaisI pariNatikI gati ho vaisA hotA hai. bAkI kramabaddhakI chintA karanekI AvashyakatA nahIn hai.

jo svayam gnAyakako puruShArthase pahachAne, puruShArthase bhedagnAn kare, main gnAyak hUn, bhedagnAnakI dhArA puruShArthase pragaT ho, Age baDhe puruShArthase, svAnubhUtikI pariNati puruShArthase, lInatA hotI hai puruShArthase, sabakuchh usase hotA hai. kevalagnAn tak puruShArthakI pariNati hotI hai aur us anusAr usakI paryAyen pariNamatI hain. usake puruShArthakI gati, usakA bal jo kAm kare, us prakArakI usakI paryAyenn pariNamatI hain. usake anukUla. ...utanA dhIre hotA hai, jitanI tIvratA utanA jaldI hotA hai. mand-tIvra sab chaitanyakI pariNatike hAthamen hai. .. vah kartAbuddhi chhuDAneke liye hai. main parakA kar sakatA hUn aur merese sab hotA hai, aisI jo usakI buddhi hai, use chhuDAneke liye. parapadArthamen koI pheraphAr svayam kar nahIn sakatA, jaisA honA hotA hai vaisA hotA hai. main dUsarekA achchhA yA bUrA, sharIrake pheraphAr yA bAharakA pheraphAr kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. svayamkI chaitanyakI pariNatimen apane svabhAvakI or puruShArthakI gati ho, usamen gnAn, darshan, chAritra, vIrya jo usake yogya paryAyen pragaT honI hotI hai, vah svata pragaT hotI hai, use main pragaT karun...

sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. svayam svayamkI or puruShArthase jhukA, usamen samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritra Adi paryAyen pragaT hotI hai, vah svayam pariNamatI hai. amuk nirmalatA visheSh svayam pariNamatI hai. svayam apane vikalpase use pariNamit nahIn karatA. puruShArthakI gati svayamkI or ho vah sab svayam pariNamatA hai. isaliye apanI kartRutvabuddhi chhuDAneke liye kramabaddha hai.

svayam gnAyak hai. usamen puruShArtha chhuDAneke liye kramabaddha nahIn hai. puruShArtha karaneke liye hai aur usamen kartAbuddhi toDaneke liye, gnAyak honeke liye hai. tU gnAyak hai, dekhatA raha. terA karanese kuchh hotA nahIn. tU gnAyak hai. gnAtA honeke liye hai. .. aisA kahate the, gnAyak ho jA. bas, aisA hI hai. gnAtA honA hai.

muumukShu- AchAryadevane shirShakamen vahI likhA hai, akartA honeke liye bAt hai. samAdhAna- akartA honeke liye hai. (puruShArthakI) puShTi karaneke liye, puruShArthako mandar karaneke liye nahIn. jaisA honA hogA vaisA hogA, tU samajhA hI nahIn, aisA kahe. jise gnAyak pragaT huA use hI kramabaddha hai, aisA kahate the. gnAyak pragaT ho, use hI kramabaddha hai, dUsareko nahIn hai, aisA kahate the. jo gnAtA huA, use kramabaddha hai.


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dUsareko nahIn hai, aisA hI kahate the.

mumukShu- nirNay karatA hai ki main to jAnanevAlA hUn, jAnanamAtra hUn, aur kuchh bhI main nahIn, vikalpa bhI main nahIn hUn.

samAdhAna- vikalpa main nahIn hUn, aisA nirNay karanA. nirNay kare lekin gnAyak sahaj rahanA. vikalpase nirNay huA ki main vikalpa bhI nahIn hUn. nirNay huA lekin nirNayarUp pariNaman honA chAhiye. nirNay hotA hai.

mumukShu- unakA aisA kahanA ki vah to yathArtha paristhiti hai.

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn, main gnAyak-jAnanevAlA hUn, main gnAtA hUn. jo-jo vikalpa Aye (usI samay) main to jAnanevAlA hUn, main jAnanevAlA hUn. bArambAr bhItarase bhAvanAse jignAsAse sharIr main nahIn hUn, vikalpa main nahIn hUn, shubhAshubh jo-jo vikalpa Ave, sab main nahIn hUn, main to jAnanevAlA hUn. bArambAr usakA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. vah .. hai. bArambAr bhItarase main gnAyak hUn, main jAnanevAlA hUn. gnAyak koI apUrva hai, main vastu hUn, main gnAyak hUn. bArambAr-bArambAr isakA abhyAs kare. raTanarUp nahIn, parantu bhItarase mahimArUpase main gnAyak hUn. main gnAyakadev hUn. gnAyakakI mahimApUrvak main gnAyak hI hUn. usakI mahimA honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- gneyonkI mahimA chhUT jAyegI aur isakI mahimA AyegI.

samAdhAna- hAn, basa. bAharakI sanyogakI mahimA chhUT jAy aur AtmAkI mahimA- gnAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. AtmArthI jIvako to aisA hI hotA hai na. AtmAkA prayojan ho vahAn usakA vyavahAr bhI vaisA hotA hai.

mumukShu- sukhadhAm anant susant chahI, din-rAt rahe tad dhyAn mahI, usakA artha kyA hai?

samAdhAna- sukhadhAm anant susant chahI. jo sukhakA dhAm hai, jo anant sukhakA dhAm hai, aisA jo apanA svarUpa. sukhadhAm anant susant chahI. sant jise chAhate hain, sant us rUp ho rahe hain. jo anant sukhakA dhAm hai. sukhadhAm anant susant chahI, din rAt rahe tad dhyAn mahIn. din aur rAt jisake dhyAnamen rahate hain, aise sant jo din aur rAt, anant sukhakA dhAm hai, usake dhyAnamen din aur rAt rahate hain. aisA jo sukhakA dhAm, AtmAkA svarUp sukhadhAm hai.

AtmA kaisA hai? sukhakA dhAm hai, anant sukhakA dhAm hai. usamen din rAt rahe. sasant usamen din-rAt, munion kShaN-kShaNamen usamen bArambAr-bArambAr din rAt rahe tad dhyAn mahIn, prashAnti anant sudhAmay je. prashAnti-esI prashAnti-visheSh shAnti usamen baras rahI hai. prashAnti anant sudhAmay je. anant sudhAmay, anant amRut svarUp hai. sudhAmay je praNamun


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pad te varate jayate. vah pad naman karane yogya hai, pradhAn hai aur jayate-vah jay svarUp hai. aisA hI vah sukhakA dhAm hai.

vah samyagdarshanamen pragaT hotA hai, munionko pragaT hotA hai. din aur rAt jisake dhyAnamen muni bas rahe hain. us anant sukhake dhAmamen. dUsarA sukhakA dhAm bAhar kahIn nahIn hai. AtmAmen sukhakA dhAm hai. anant sukhakA dhAm hai. anant Ananda bharA hai, anupam Ananda bharA hai. usamen shAnti, usamen shAnti baras rahI hai. prashAnti anant sudhAmaya. anant sudhA. jagatamen kahIn amRut nahIn hai, AtmAmen hI amRut hai. anant sudhAsvarUp hai. aise padako main namaskAr karatA hUn. vah pradhAn svarUp hai, jay svarUp hai, aise AtmAke svarUpako main naman karatA hUn. jo jay svarUp vartatA hai athavA jo pradhAn hai.

AtmAkI mahimA AyI hai to kahate hain ki din-rAt jisamen muni basate hain, aise padako main namaskAr karatA hUn. aise padako chAhate hain. jagatamen koI pad iShTa nahIn hai. devalokakA pad yA chakravartIkA pad, koI pad vah pad nahIn hai. is AtmAkA pad hI sarvotkRuShTa hai. sukhadhAm anant, anant sukhakA dhAm hai. AtmAmen anant shAnti pragaT hotI hai. prashAnti. is sansAramen dukh dAvAnalamen jalatA huA, jisamen shAntikA ek ansh nahIn hai aur AtmAmen anant shAnti (bharI hai). bArambAr usImen bas jAy, kab vah pragaT ho, munidashA, kevalagnAn, vah pad, us padakI hI bArambAr bhAvanA karate hain. vah pad pragaT huA hai, phir bhI bArambAr usamen basanekI, din rAt usamen hI basanekI bhAvanA bhAte hain.

kevalagnAn bhI nahIn chAhiye. kevalagnAnakI paryAy par bhI jisakI dRuShTi nahIn hai. mujhe ek kevalagnAn chAhiye, aisA bhI nahIn hai. jo kevalagnAn lokAlok jAne, vah lokAlok jAnanekI jise paDI nahIn hai. lokAlok jAnanemen Aye to ThIk, aisA jAnanekI nahIn paDI hai. kevalagnAn yAnI lokAlokako (jAne), aisA artha (hai, lekin) lokAlokako jAnanekI nahIn paDI hai, parantu merA sukhakA dhAm jo AtmA hai, vah mujhe pragaT hoo. pUrNa pragaT ho jAo aur usamen main pUrNarUpase bas jAUn. vah merA Atmapad chAhiye. lekin kevalagnAnakI paryAy, ek guN, ek paryAy mujhe nahIn chAhiye parantu pUrNa AtmA chAhiye. kevalagnAn lokAlokako jAnanekI paDI nahIn hai, jAnanekI nahIn paDI hai, AtmAmen basanekI paDI hai.

jainakA kevalagnAn nahIn chAhiye. arthAt kevalagnAn par dRuShTi nahIn hai, AtmAkI sAdhanA karanevAleko kevalagnAn par dRuShTi nahIn hai. AtmAkA pUrNa vItarAgapad, us par dRuShTi hai. mujhe vItarAgI pad prApta hoo. ek AtmA prashAnt-shAntimay jo AtmA, AtmAkA vItarAgI


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pad prApta ho. usamen kevalagnAn lok jAnanemen Aye yA nahIn, usakI koI darakAr nahIn hai. lokAlok jAnanemen Aye yA nahIn jAnanemen Aye, usakA kuchh nahIn hai. mujhe ek vItarAgI pad pUrNa Atmapad prApta hoo. aisI usakI bhAvanA hai. kevalagnAnakI darakAr nahIn hai. vItarAg dashA pragaT chAhiye. AtmadashA, AtmAmen hI basanekI jise darakAr hai. main AtmAmen bas jAUn. yah vibhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai, vibhAv merA rahanekA sthAn nahIn hai, rahanekA merA ghar bhI nahIn hai, merA rahanekA sthAn AtmAmen hai. yah to par hai. merA apanA svaghar AtmA hai. mere svarUpamen main bas jAUn, mujhase svarUp chAhiye. kevalagnAn nahIn chAhiye. kevalagnAn par usakI dRuShTi nahIn hai. (vItarAg) svarUp AtmA chAhiye. shAntasamudra aisA AtmA Anandase bharA hai. shAntimay AtmA pragaT ho, usakI pariNati pragaT ho.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!
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