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mumukShu- .. vah to samajhamen AtA hai, parantu dravyako arpit ho jAnA, vah kaise karanA?

samAdhAna- dravyako arpit ho jAnA, dravyako barAbar pahachAne ki main chaitanya shAshvat anAdi gnAyak dravya hUn. gnAyakakA svarUp pahachAne aur gnAyakakI mahimA Aye to use arpit huA jAtA hai.

jaise jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI mahimA Anese vahAn arpaNatA hotI hai. jinendra dev jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain, guru ki jo AtmAkI bArambAr sAdhanA kar rahe hain aur vANI barasAte hain, aisA guru aur shAstra mArga batAtA hai. aisI jo unakI mahimA AtI hai, vaise yadi AtmAkI mahimA Aye to usamen bhI arpit huA jAtA hai.

jinendradev, jinhonne sarvotkRuShTa AtmA, apanI paryAy chaitanyadevakI pUrNatA prApta kI hai. aise jinendra devakI jaise mahimA AtI hai, gurukI, shAstrakI, aise chaitanyako pahachAne to chaitanyakI bhI mahimA AtI hai. gnAyak kaisA hai? ki ananta guNonse bharapUr anupam tattva aur AshcharyakArI tattva hai. vah tattva anAdiananta hai. chAhe jitane bhav kiye to bhI AtmAko kuchh ek ansh bhI, thoDA bhI vibhAvakA andar pravesh nahIn huA hai yA malinatA nahIn huyI hai.

aisA shAshvat AtmA jo koI adabhut AshcharyakArI hai, koI usakA nAsh nahIn kar sakatA. koI use utpanna nahIn kar sakatA. anAdiananta shAshvat aisA anupam AshcharyakArI ananta guNonse bharapUr (hai) ki jo svAnubhUtimen usakI anubhUtimen pakaDamen AtA hai. aur gnAnase usake lakShaN dvArA pahachAnA jAtA hai. AtmA kaisA anupam tattva hai, vah usake gnAnalakShaNase pahachAnamen AtA hai. usakI yadi mahimA Aye ki AtmA hI jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hai, to use bhI arpit huA jAtA hai. bas, is gnAyakadevake sivA mujhe kuchh nahIn chAhiye. is jagatamen jo kuchh hai vah kuchh bhI sArabhUt nahIn hai, tuchchha hai.

yah gnAyakadev hI jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hai. gnAyakadevakI mahimA Aye to usakI bhI arpaNatA ho jAya. mere gnAyakako kaise pahachAnUn? use nirakhatA rahUn, use arpaN ho jAUn, usakI mahimA karun, usakI pUjan karun. mahimA Aye to gnAyakadevako bhI arpaN huA

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jAtA hai. jaise dev-guru-shAstrako arpaN hotA hai, vaise gnAyakadevako arpaN hotA hai.

bhagavAnane gnAyakadevako pragaT kiyA hai, guru gnAyakadevakI svAnubhUtikI svAnubhUti kar rahe hain, sAdhanA kar rahe haiain, shAstra gnAyakadevako batAtA hai. aisA gnAyakadev yadi antaramen svayam lakShaN dvArA pahachAne aur usakI mahimA Aye to usamen bhI arpaNatA ho jAtI hai. aur mArga vahI hai. gnAyakadevakI mahimA Aye binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahIn hotA. gnAyakako pahachAne binA aur use arpaN hue binA, muktikA mArga pragaT nahIn hotA. use pahachAnakar, usakI shraddhA karake usamen lInatA kare to use svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai.

ek gnAyakadevako pahachAne binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahIn hotA. usakI arpaNatA Ave to hI muktikA mArga prArambh hotA hai. isaliye use pahachAnanA. vahI usakA upAy hai. anyase rAg TUTakar virakti Akar antaramen hI arpaNatA A jAy, vah A sake aisA hai. gnAyakadevako pahachAne to arpaNatA hotI hai.

mumukShu- dev-guru-shAstra to sAmane dikhate hain isaliye unakI mahimA AtI hai, parantu Ap kahate ho tab to aisA hI lagatA hai ki ekadam AsAn hai. parantu jab prayogamen to takalIph hotI hai.

samAdhAna- prayatna karanA mushkil paDatA hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstra sAmane dikhe isaliye unakI mahimA Aye, yah dikhatA nahIn. parantu gnAnalakShaNase pahachAnA jAy aisA hai. arUpI hai isaliye dikhatA nahIn. parantu svayam hI hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. dUsarA ho to DhUnDhane jAnA paDe. yah to svayam hI hai. use kahIn khojane jAnA paDe aisA nahIn hai. lekin svayamkA sthUl upayog ho gayA hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai. upayog bAhar jAtA hai use svayam sthUl upayogako sUkShma karake svayamko gnAnalakShaNase pahachAne to svayam hI hai. pakaDamen Aye aisA hai aur usakI anubhUti ho sake aisA hai. ananta jIvonne gnAyakadevako pahachAnakar muktike mArgako prApta hue hain, usakI svAnubhUtiko prApta hue hain. pahachAnA jAy aisA hai, pakaDamen Aye aisA hai. parantu svayam prayatna kare, usakI jignAsA kare, bhAvanA kare, abhyAs kare to vah pakaDamen Aye aisA hai. grahaN hue binA nahIn rahe. svayam hI hai, kyon pakaDamen nahIn Aye? apanI bhUlake kAraN svayam bAhar aTakA hai. usakI ruchi bAhar jAtI hai, isaliye pakaD nahIn sakatA.

mumukShu- jIvakA astitva bolanemen athavA sIkhanemen AtA hai. parantu andarase astitvakA jor kyon nahIn AtA hai?

samAdhAna- bolanemen to astitva-main hUn. parantu antaramen main hUn, vah vikalpa hai. lekin main hUn vah kaun hUn? usakA astitva svayam gaharAImen jAy, use-astitvako khoje

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to astitvasvarUp hI svayam hai. jo hai vah hai, svayam hI vastu hai, dUsarA koI nahIn hai. svayam gaharAImen jAy to apanA astitva grahaN ho sake aisA hai. yah sab sharIrAdi dikhAI detA hai, bAharakI vastuen dikhatI hai, andarake vibhAv pariNAmakA vedan hot hai, rAg-dveShAdikA. aise AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, us jAnanevAlekA astitva grahaN ho sake aisA hai. svayam andar sUkShma hokar pragnAchhainI dvArA, pragnAko-gnAnako tIkShNa karake antaramen astitvako grahaN kare to ho sake aisA hai. parantu vah gaharAImen jAtA nahIn. isaliye apanA astitva grahaN nahIn ho rahA hai.

apanA astitva maujUd hI hai. kahIn nahIn gayA hai, kahIn gum nahIn gayA hai. astitva maujUd hai, parantu svayam grahaN nahIn kar sakatA hai. prayatna kare to grahaN ho sake aisA hai. (puruShArtha) manda hai isaliye grahaN nahIn ho sakatA hai. prayatna svayamko karanA rahatA hai. bArambAr usIkA prayatna karate rahanA, bArambAra. thakanA nahIn, bArambAr usIkA prayatna ho to vah pakaDamen Aye binA, grahaN hue binA nahIn rahatA. thakanA nahIn. dhIrajase AkulatA kiye binA grahaN kare to ho sake aisA hai. apanI bhAvanA ugra ho to puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahIn.

mumukShu- itane ... liye hain, ab to hue binA chhUTakArA hI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane yah mArga batAyA hai, gurudevane vANI barasAyI, apUrva vANI barasAyI, use grahaN hue binA kaise rahe? svayam puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai. grahaN karane jaisA hai. gnAyak, main gnAyak hI hUn, yah sharIr merA nahIn hai. sharIr paradravya hai, rog sab sharIramen Ate hain. gnAyakamen nahIn Ate hain. gnAyak to shAshvat hai. gnAyakakI bhAvanA, jignAsA, gnAyakakI mahimA, main to gnAyak hI hUn, gnAyakakI or raTan rakhanA. usIkA abhyAs, usakA chintavan vahI karane jaisA hai. shubh bhAvanAmen dev-guru-shAstrakA smaraN aur andar gnAyakakA smaraNa. main gnAyak hI hUn, yah sharIr main nahIn hUn. main chaitanyadev gnAyak hUn. vah grahaN karane jaisA hai.

mumukShu- ... kis vidhese andar karanA?

samAdhAna- gnAn prasiddha hai tau AtmA prasiddha hotA hai. parantu gnAn prasiddha hai, use svayam pahachAne. gnAnalakShaN dvArA AtmAko pahachAne to prasiddha ho na. AtmA to prasiddha hI hai, lekin prasiddhimen lAnA vah to svayam puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. gnAn prasiddha lakShaN hai, us lakShaN dvArA lakShyako pahachAne, dravyako pahachAne. usakI pratIt kare, usamen lInatA kare, usakA yathArtha gnAn kare to prasiddhimen Aye. svayam puruShArtha kare nahIn to kaise prasiddha ho? prasiddha hI hai. usakA lakShaN to prasiddha hI hai. lekin prasiddhimen lAnA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

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mumukShu- shAstra yA ApakA mArgadarshan kuchh... ki is vidhise...?

samAdhAna- gurudevane to bahut mArga batAyA hai. puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake, ekadam sUkShmarUpase jaisA thA vaisA mArga spaShTa batA diyA hai. bAhar kahIn bhI aTakanA nahIn, andar ek gnAn lakShaN AtmA gnAyak hai. use pahachAn le. gnAn dvArA pUre gnAyakako pahachAn le. lekin vah karanA to svayamko hai.

antaramense utanA nyArA ho, sab vibhAvonse bhinna hokar andar gnAyakake lakShaNako, ekadam usake lakShaN dvArA pratIt dRuDh kare ki yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn. gnAyakako grahaN kare, gnAyakamen lInatA kare to gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. pariNati bAhar dauDe, use gnAyak kaise prasiddha ho? use andar pahachAnakar moDanA ki yah gnAyak hai. gnAyakakI or pariNatiko moDe to gnAyak prasiddha hotA hai. pariNatikI dauD sab bAhar ho rahI hai, antarakI or pariNati jAtI nahIn hai, to gnAyak kaise prasiddha ho?

svayam prasiddhimen sab vibhAv lAtA hai. sab vibhAv, rAg-dveSh, sankalpa-vikalpakI prasiddhi svayam karatA hai. gnAyakakI prasiddhi andar jAy to svayamko prasiddha hotA hai. vah to prasiddha hI hai. dUsarA nahIn hai ki svayam gupta rahe. svayam hI hai. svayam apaneko bhUl gayA vah AshcharyakI bAt hai. svayam svayamko bhUl jAy, yah kaisI AshcharyakI bAt hai!

mumukShu- baDA andher ho gayA.

samAdhAna- baDA andher ho gayA. dUsareko bhUle vah dUsarI bAt hai, svayam svayamko bhUl gayA, yah to kaisA andher hai! shreShTha anupam aisA svayam, use svayam bhUl gayA.

mumukShu- yah baDI bhUla.

samAdhAna- baDI bhUla.

mumukShu- pAs-pAs hai.

samAdhAna- donon samIp hI hain. bhagavAnako grahaN nahIn karatA hai aur vibhAvako dekhatA rahatA hai. vibhAvako grahaN karatA hai. vibhAvavAlA ho gayA. rAg, dveSh, sankalpa, vikalpavAlA main ho gayA. aisI mAnyatA ho rahI hai. usase nyArA main to bhinna hUn. merA svaghar alag, main svata tattva bhinna hUn. vah bhUl gayA bhagavAnako.

... ananta kAl usamen gayA. "nij nayananI ALase re, nirakhyA nahIn harine jarI'. svayam hI hai, apane netrakI Alasake kAraN svayam Ankh kholakar dekhatA nahIn, bhagavAnako nirakhatA nahIn. usamen ananta kAl chalA gayA. svayam so rahA hai, jAgatA nahIn. gurudevane jAgRut karaneko lalakArake jagAte the. jAganA apane hAthakI bAt hai. tU paramAtmA, tU bhagavAn, tU jAga.

samAdhAna- ... guru mil gaye.

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mumukShu- 91vIn janma jayanti malADamen sImandhar bhagavAnane mujhe..

samAdhAna- bhagavAnake pAs the, vahAnse yahAn bharatakShetramen kaise Aye?

mumukShu- hamen to mAtAjI! bAharase to .. itanA puNya lekar Aye hain.

samAdhAna- unhonne kitanI vANI barasAyI hai. kuchh bAkI nahIn rakhA hai. yah to Apako prashna utpanna hote hain, isaliye javAb detI hUn.

mumukShu- Ap koI-koI bAr itanA sundar bolate ho, udAsInatAmen ras AnA chAhiye, gnAtA-dRuShTA rahanemen ras AnA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- .. Ananda AnA chAhiye. nivRuttasvarUp AtmA hai. jo usakA svabhAv hai, usI jAtikA svayamko ras honA chAhiye. to AtmA us rUp pariNaman kare, to usakI pariNati vaisI hotI hai. phir bAharake kAryamen bhale amuk prakArase andar juDe, parantu andarase usakI ekatvabuddhi TUT jAya. antaramense aisI pariNati, nivRuttamay pariNati aisI (ho ki) antaramen use vahI ruche.

mumukShu- pravRuttimense ras bilakUl uD jAnA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- andarase uD jAya. bIchamen shubhabhAv Aye vah alag bAt hai, lekin antaramense Ananda, AtmAkA jo nivRuttamay svabhAv hai, usamen Ananda AnA chAhiye. svabhAv pariNatimen Ananda AnA chAhiye. gnAtA rahanemen ras AnA chAhiye. sab jagah kartA honemen ras chhUT jAya. gnAtA rahanemen ras Aye. main to jAnanevAlA gnAyak, udAsIn gnAyak hUn. par padArthakA main kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. usake kuchh bhI pheraphAr nahIn kar sakatA, main to jAnanevAlA hUn. phir bhI rAgake kAraN amuk kAryamen juDe. juDe to bhI usakI maryAdA hotI hai. ekatvabuddhi nahIn ho jAtI ki vah svayamko bhUlakar usamen juDe. aisA nahIn hotA. gnAyakatA, udAsInatAke kAraN maryAdA A jAtI hai.

jIvako kartAbuddhikA utanA ekatva ho gayA hai ki apanI gnAyakatA bhUl gayA hai. aur kartAbuddhikI utanI ekatvatA ho gayI hai. kartRutvamen utanA ras A gayA hai. AchArya bhagavAnane pUrA kartA-karma adhikAr alag likhA hai. gurudev kartA-karma-kriyA par bahut kahate the. kartAbuddhikA ras use ekatvabuddhise AtA hai. ... yahAn karanemen shUnyatA lage. aisA use ho jAya. vah jIvan kaisA? ki shAnt pariNaman, us jAtikI shraddhA karanI bhI mushkil lage. phir kAryamen rakhanA ek or rahA.

mumukShu- shraddhA hI mukhya hai. koI pahachAne nahIn.

samAdhAna- hAn, koI pahachAne nahIn. isamen ek or baiTh jAnA, aisA artha nahIn hai. lekin use aisA ho jAtA hai ki aisI shraddhA karanI kaThin lagatI hai. use svayamko aisA ho jAtA hai. kuchh na kare to shUnya ho jAyenge. aisA ho jAtA hai.

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mumukShu- ab mujhe koI nahIn pUchhegA.

samAdhAna- hAn. koI kimat rahe nahIn, koI ginatI nahIn rahegI, aisA use ho jAtA hai. .. chhoD denekI bAt nahIn hai, parantu andarakI shraddhA, antaramense palaTanekI bAt hai.

mumukShu- .. rakhate hain to kitanA achchhA lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- paramAtmA hUn, gurudev Tepamen bolate hain. trilokanAth paramAtmA vItarAg sarvagnadevakI dhvanimen yah AyA hai ki tU paramAtmA hai. sau indrakI upasthitike samavasaraNamen lAkhon-kroDo devonkI hAjarImen bhagavAnane kahA hai ki tU paramAtmA hai. lekin bhagavAn! Ap paramAtmA ho, itanA to nakkI karane do. tU paramAtmA hai, aisA nakkI kiye binA yah paramAtmA bhagavAn tujhe nakkI honge. nishchay nakkI kiye binA vyavahAr nakkI hogA nahIn. gurudev aise lalakArake bolate hain.

mumukShu- mAnon OM dhvani barasI.

samAdhAna- hAn. .. samavasaraNamen bhagavAnane aisA kahA hai, aisA AkAshamense kahate ho (aisA lagatA hai). yahAn virAjate the. sonagaDhake andar kaN-kaNamen gurudevakI smRuti hai.

gnAyakako pahachAnanA vahI pratham hai. use pahachAnaneke liye jignAsA, vichAr, vAnchan (karanA). dhyey to sarvapratham gnAyakako hI pahachAnanA. mArga ek hI hai. gnAyakakI ruchi karanI, gnAyakakI mahimA karanI, gnAyakakA gnAn karanA. gnAyak kyA hai, usake vichAr karanA. usake dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai, usakA svarUp kyA hai? lekin vah samajhaneke liye vichAr, shAstra aur gurudevane kyA kahA hai, un sabakA vichAr karanA. dhyey ek hI-gnAyakako grahaN karanA.

grahaN ho, grahaN karaneke hetuse dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab gnAyak kaise grahaN ho, usake liye hai. jIvanamen dev-guru-shAstrakA raTan rahe vahI sarvotkRuShTa hai na. bAkI sansAr to chalatA hI rahatA hai. sansAr to hai hI, parantu gRuhasthAshramamen andar AtmAkI ruchi rahe, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA rahe, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI mahimA rahe aur AtmAkI ruchi rahe, vahI manuShyajIvanakA kartavya to ek hI hai. gnAyak AtmAkI mahimA, usakI ruchi aur vah nahIn ho vahAn shubhabhAvamen jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra hRudayamen rahe, vahI manuShyajIvanakA kartavya hai.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- gnAyakake alAvA sab para. vibhAvabhAv apanI paryAyamen hote hain, parantu usakA svabhAv bhinna hai. isaliye vikalpa bhI (par). sab usamen le lenA. dravyakarma, bhAvakarma aur nokarma Adi saba.

mumukShu- ek samayakI paryAy bhI paramen AtI hai?

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samAdhAna- mukhyarUpase yah sharIr, dravyakarma aur bhAvakarma, shubhAshubh vikalpa. guN aur paryAy to jo shuddha paryAy aur guN, koI apekShAse use par kahanemen AtA hai. vAstavik rUpase aise paramen nahIn Ate hain. guN apane chaitanyake sAth ekamek hain. aur paryAy, chaitanyakI pariNati pariNamit hokar paryAy hotI hai, shuddha paryAya. use dravyadRuShTike joramen par kahanemen AtA hai. usake bhed paDe, vikalpake bhedamen aTakanA nahIn. parantu vah vAstavamen apane vedanase bhinna nahIn hai. vah alag hai, usamen vivek karanA paDatA hai.