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mumukShu- sab prakArase ruchi chhUTakar, Apane kahA ki sab prakArase ruchi chhUTI nahIn. sab prakArase ruchi nahIn chhUTI hai, usamen kyA samajhanA?

samAdhAna- andar shubharAgamen ruchi rah gayI hai. shubhabhAvamen gaharAImen use ruchi hai.

mumukShu- bolatA to aisA hai ki shubharAg vikAr hai, doSh hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, vah sab bole. lekin antaramen usakI pariNatimen akelA andar nivRuttamay AtmA hI sukharUp hai, AtmAmen hI sab hai, aisA bole, lekin antaramen shubharAg itanA to hotA hai na, chAhe jaise bhI use gaharAImen rah jAtA hai. kyA rah jAtA hai? shAstramen AtA hai ki vah kevalagnAnI jAne. parantu gaharAImen use ruchi rah jAtI hai. par padArthakI or gaharAImen ruchi rah jAtI hai.

mumukShu- pravRuttikI ruchi rah jAya.

samAdhAna- andar pravRuttikI gaharI ruchi hai. parAshrayavAlI andar ruchi hai. parakI ora. shubharAgamen kuchh ThIk hai, shubharAg mainne bahut kiyA isaliye mainne bahut kiyA hai, mainne bahut dharma kiyA hai, sab tyAg kiyA hai, dev-gurukI bhakti aur yah sab bahut kiyA hai, sab shAstronkA abhyAs kiyA hai. dravya-guN-paryAy main to sab jAnatA hUn. yah sab ThIk hai, aisA antaramen mainne bahut kar liyA hai, antaramen santuShTa ho gayA hai aur bAharakI ruchi andar paDI hai. antaramen santoSh A gayA hai. is vikalpase bhI merA svarUp bhinna hai. Uchchatam vikalpase bhI main bhinna hUn, andaramen jo isakI ruchi honI chAhiye, vah ruchi antaramense use hotI nahIn.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! bahut kaThin kAm hai.

samAdhAna- apanA svabhAv hai isaliye AsAn hai. aur anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye kaThin hai. chhUTatA hai use ek kShaNamen chhUT jAtA hai, antarmuhUrtamen chhUT jAtA hai aur jise nahIn chhUTatA hai use lAkhon kroDo bhav paryant kriyAen karatA rahe to bhI chhUTatA nahIn. agnAnI jo karma lAkh-kroD bhavamen kShay karatA hai, vah gnAnI ek shvAsamAtramen kShay karatA hai. svayamkA svabhAv hai isaliye sahaj hai, saral hai aur sugam hai. lekin bAharamakI ruchi lage to use chhoDanA mushkil hai. AtmAkA svabhAv hI nahIn hai, paramen

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rukanA vah AtmAkA svabhAv hI nahIn. par or jAnA, usamen use sukh hI nahIn lage. vah usakA svabhAv hI nahIn hai. jise yathArtha AtmArthItA ho use bAharamen, antaramen gaharAImen AtmAke alAvA kahIn sukh lage hI nahIn, kyonki vah usakA svabhAv hI nahIn. sachche AtmArthIko andar sab dukh aur AkulatA hI lagatI hai. sachche AtmArthIko. kyonki vah usakA svabhAv nahIn hai, isaliye use usamen aTakanA posAtA nahIn. parantu jise gaharAImen utanA AtmAkA prayojan nahIn hai to vah usamen ruk jAtA hai. kahIn- kahIn aTak jAtA hai.

usane mokSha kise mAn liyA hai? mainne sab chhoD diyA hai. munikI jo kriyAen hain, vah sab main pAlatA hUn. chhakAyakI rakShA, panch mahAvrat pAlatA hUn, barAbar shAstrakA abhyAs karatA hUn aur barAbar jaisA hai vaisA pAlatA hUn. usakI sab Avashyak kriyAen karatA hUn. merA mokSha honevAlA hI hai. mokSha yahIn hai. main antarase bhinna ho jAun, yah sab kriyAke vikalpase bhinna ho jAUn, aisI ruchi antaramen hotI nahIn. mokShake liye hI karatA hai. mokShakA svarUp yahIn hai, aisA antaramen use gaharAImen yah laganA chAhiye. main mokShasvarUp hI hUn aur vibhAv pariNatimen rukA hUn, isaliye bandhan hai. isaliye mujhe vibhAvase chhUTanA hai. antaramen use AnA chAhiye, to sachchA mokSha ho. ... ashubh pariNAm gauN hokar, ashubh pariNAmase mokSha hogA. shubhamen aTakA hai.

mumukShu- ashubhase mokSha hogA.

samAdhAna- ashubhase mokSha hogA.

mumukShu- antaramen bhinna hUn aur bhinna honA hai, donon bAt use...

samAdhAna- antaramen laganA chAhiye, main bhinna hI hUn. dravya merA bhinna hI hai, vibhAvamen aTakA hai vahAnse chhUTanA hai. aisA antaramen laganA chAhiye. lekin jo ekase nahIn chhUTA shubhase, vah vAstavikarUpase ashubhase nahIn chhUTA hai.

mumukShu- sab palaT jAyegA.

samAdhAna- palaT jAyegA. ... (mAlUm) paDe, svayamko mAlUm paDe lekin use andar khojanekI vRutti, khojanekI lagI ho to (mAlUm) paDe na. santuShTa ho gayA ho to kahAnse paDe? santuShTa ho gayA ho use kahAnse mile? mainne to sab kar liyA hai, aise santoSh A gayA ho to kahAnse DhUnDhe. jise santoSh nahIn hai, shAstramen yah sab AtA hai ki munipanA pAlA to bhI dravyalingI muni ananta bAr graiveyak upajAyo, to bhI mokSha nahIn huA, vah kyA hogA? is prakAr svayamko vichAr karanekA, svayamko apanI pariNatiko khojanekI paDI ho to svayam DhUnDh sakatA hai. parantu svayamko apanI paDI nahIn, santoSh A gayA ho to kahAnse DhUnDhe? (santoSh) ho hI gayA hai.

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bahut log bhes lekar nahIn kahate hain? apane to samyagdarshan hotA hI hai. samyagdarshan nahIn hai? jain dharmako mAnate hain, itanA tyAg liyA to samyagdarshan hai hI, aisA bahut log mAn lete hain.

mumukShu- ... main samyagdRuShTiko vandan karatA hUn. munirAj vaise to samyagdRuShTiko vandan kare nahIn, parantu samyagdarshanakI mahimA batAyI...

samAdhAna- samyagdRuShTiko vandan karatA hUn arthAt vandan karatA hUn, aisI bhAvanA kare, parantu vandan-namaskAr nahIn hotA. aisA vyavahAr nahIn karate. jisane kAraN tattva jAnA, AtmAko jAnA, us kAraN par dRuShTi rakhanese jisamen kArya AtA hai, aisA kAraN tattva jisane grahaN kiyA, jisane bhedagnAn aur svAnubhUti pragaT kI, use main vandan karatA hUn. jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa ho to AtmA chaitanya dravya hai, use jisane lakShyamen liyA use vandan karatA hUn. aisA kahakar svayamko mahimA AtI hai. bAkI use namaskArakA vyavahAr muni nahIn karate.

mumukShu- samyagdarshanakI mahimA darshAte hain.

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakI mahimA darshAte hain. mokShamArga jo pragaT hotA hai, usake anshase lekar pUrNatA paryant sab Adar karane yogya hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hain. chaitanyatattva mahimAvant hai, usakA ek ansh bhI pragaT ho, anshase lekar munidashA paryant sab Adarane yogya, sab mahimAvant, sab namaskAr karane yogya hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hain.

Namo arihantANan Adi AtA hai na? panch parameShThI namaskAra. usamen sab AchArya, upAdhyAy, munirAj jo baDe muni hote hain, chhoTe muni sab A jAte hain, un sabako main namaskAr karatA hUn. aise navakAr bole usamen sab A jAtA hai. lekin namaskArakA vyavahAr nahIn karate. Namo loe savva sAhUNan, sab muniko namaskAr karatA hUn. navakAr bole isaliye usamen sab muni A jAte hain. lekin baDe muni hon, ve chhoTe muniko namaskArako vyavahAr nahIn karate.

mumukShu- hamen adhikase adhik kitane bhavamen samyagdarshan prApta ho sakatA hai? yA vartamAn bhavamen bhI ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- kitane bhavamen ho sakatA hai? vartamAn bhavamen bhI ho sakatA hai, puruShArtha kare to is bhavamen bhI ho sakatA hai. aur dUsare bhavamen bhI ho sakatA hai. jab puruShArtha kare tab ho sakatA hai. use kahIn kAl nahIn lAgU paDatA. jo puruShArtha kare, apanI yogyatA taiyAr kare aur chaitanyatattvako grahaN kare to is bhavamen bhI kar sakatA hai aur dUsare bhavamen bhI kar sakatA hai. jab taiyArI kare tab ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- samayakI maryAdA nahIn hai?

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samAdhAna- samayakI maryAdA nahIn hai. gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA, use svayam grahaN karake puruShArtha kare, ek gnAyak tattva hI grahaN karane jaisA hai. usakI pariNati abhI bhI pragaT kar sakate hain aur bhaviShyamen bhI kar sakate hain. abhI karate-karate utanA puruShArtha nahIn chale to bArambAr usakA abhyAs kare, bArambAr jignAsA kare, bhAvanA kare ki gnAyak hI AdaraNIy hai, gurudevane kahA vahI mArga Adarane yogya hai. chaitanyakA dravya- guN-paryAy kyA hai, use pahachAnanekA prayatna kare. yah vibhAv kyA hai? svabhAv kyA hai? sabako pahachAnanekA prayatna kare. ek chaitanya hI AdaraNIy hai, dUsarA kuchh AdaraNIy nahIn hai. aisI bArambAr bhAvanA kare. aisA karate-karate usamen gahare sanskAr paDe to dUsare bhavamen bhI kar sakatA hai. use kAlakI maryAdA nahIn hai. apanI mandatAke kAraN aTakatA hai. svayam puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. aisA anajAnA mArga milanA mushkil, gurudevane batAyA. vah mArga koI apUrva mArga hai. usakI mahimA Aye, AtmAkA svarUp koI apUrva hai, anupam hai, vah kaise prApta ho, gaharI ruchi kare to ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- bAharake viShayamen itane ekamek ho jAte hain ki isamen ruchi sthir honemen bahut .. lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- der lagatI hai. usamense bhI bArambAr prayatna karatA rahe. vahAnse ruchi svayamkI or lAnekA bArambAr prayatna karatA rahe. karane jaisA yahI hai, aisA nirNay kare, shraddhA kare, bArambAr prayatna karake palaTe. palaTe binA chhUTakArA nahIn hai. vah ek upAy hai. svayam palaTe binA shAntikA dUsarA koI upAy nahIn hai. shAntikA upAy svayamko hI palaTanA hai. koI nahIn kar detA, svayamko hI palaTanA hai. gurudevane mArga darshAyA. dev-guru-shAstra sab nimitta banate haiain. karanA svayamko hI hai. sarva dravyakI svatantratA batAyI hai. tU kar to ho sake aisA hai. tujhe koI rokatA nahIn. karmakA uday tuje jabarajastI rokatA nahIn. tU kar to ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- karmakA bahAnA nikAle vah bhI galat hai.

samAdhAna- galat hai. karma rokatA nahIn, karma to nimitta hai. svayam puruShArtha kare to karma use ADe nahIn Ate. karma bhI badal jAte hain, svayam puruShArtha kare to.

mumukShu- kramabaddhakA bahut shikShaN diyA hai. ... bahut parichay thA na, isaliye kramabaddhake pustakake AdhArase .. hai.

samAdhAna- kramabaddhako puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai. puruShArtha binAkA kramabaddha hotA nahIn. svayam ruchi palaTe, puruShArtha kare, apanI or Aye, usakA kramabaddha us prakArakA hotA hai. lekin svayam palaTatA nahIn aur bAharamen ruchi karake baiThA hai, to usakA kramabaddha us prakArakA hotA hai. jise bAharakI ruchi hai usakA kramabaddha us prakArakA hai. apanI

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or ruchi kare use us prakArakA kramabaddha hotA hai. apanI ruchiko koI kramabaddha rokatA nahIn.

jignAsu, jise antaramen lagI hai, antaramen mujhe kahIn chain nahIn paDatI, mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye, aisI jise antaramense lagI ho, use aisA (nahIn) hotA ki main kyA karun, mujhe antaramen to jAnA hai, lekin yah kramabaddha mujhe rok rahA hai. use andar bhAvanA hotI hI nahIn. main aisA puruShArtha karu ki merA kramabaddha aisA hI ho. merA puruShArthake kAraN,... mujhe yah chAhiye hI nahIn, kramabaddha jo bhI ho, parantu mujhe to palaTanA hI hai. apanI ruchi is or jAgRut huyI to usakA kramabaddha us prakArakA hA hI hotA hai. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhakA sambandha juDA hai.

jignAsuko kramabaddhakA bahAnA aur bachAv AtA hI nahIn. jise lagI hai ki mujhe merA hI karanA hai, kahIn nahIn aTakanA hai, use kramabaddhakA vichAr nahIn AtA. merA kramabaddha aisA hai ki main apanI or jhuku. mujhe kramabaddha nahIn rokatA. kyA karun, kaise karun, mujhase hotA nahIn, aisA kramabaddha hogA to main kyA karungA? gurudevane svatantratA kahI hai.

kramabaddha to kartAbuddhi chhuDAneke liye hai. tU gnAyak ho jA, aisA gurudev kahate hain. tU kuchh nahIn kar sakatA, tU gnAyak ho jA. gnAyak ho jA. kartAbuddhi chhoD de, gnAtApanA pragaT kara. phir jaise honA hogA vaise hotA hai. gnAyak ho jA. gnAyakamen sab A jAtA hai. gnAyak ho jA, usamen apanA puruShArtha A gayA. gnAyak honevAleko apanA puruShArtha A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- kevalI bhagavAnane ananta bhav dekhe honge vaisA hogA, aise nahIn dekhatA.

samAdhAna- bhagavAnane ananta bhav dekhe honge to? tU puruShArtha kar to bhagavAnane tere bhav dekhe hI nahIn. tU puruShArtha karatA nahIn, tujhe karanA nahIn hai to terA aisA hI dekhA hai. tU puruShArtha kar to bhagavAn aisA hI dekhe kI puruShArtha karanevAleko bhav hote hI nahIn. tU karatA nahIn isaliye bhagavAnake gnAnamen aisA AtA hai, tU kar to bhagavAnake gnAnamen aisA hI Aye ki terA mokSha hai. tujhe hI karanA hai.

mumukShu- ananta bhav dekhe honge to kyA ek bhI kam hogA? Apake dekhe honge, mere nahIn dekhe hain. aisI shraddhA? mujhe Apake sAth nahIn rahanA hai. bhAg gaye. phir shrAvak le Aye, mahArAj! chaliye! aisI shraddhAvAlonke sAth mujhe rahanA hI nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevakA kramabaddha kahanekA Ashay alag hI thA. gurudev, jaisA honA hogA vaisA hogA, aisA kuchh mAnate hI nahIn the ki bhagavAnane dekhA hogA vaisA hogA. bhagavAnane aise bhav dekhe honge to? puruShArtha kare usake bhav aise dekhe nahIn hai bhagavAnane.

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gurudevako kramabaddhamen aisA nahIn kahanA thA. unakA kartAbuddhi chhuDAnekA abhiprAy thA. tU gnAyak ho jA, aisA kahanA thA.

tU paradravyakA kuchh badal nahIn sakatA. tU kartAbuddhi chhoD de, gnAyak ho jA, aisA kahanA thA. sahaj pariNati terI apanI pragaT kar le. kartRutvabuddhi chhoD de, aisA kahanA thA. kramabaddhako puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai. akelA kramabaddha nahIn hotA. usamen svabhAv, kAl ityAdi sab sAthamen hai. akelA kramabaddha nahIn hotA. puruShArthake sAth sambandha rakhatA hai. jaisA jisakA puruShArtha vaisA usakA kramabaddha. puruShArthakI gati kaisI hai? svayam puruShArtha karanevAleko main karun, aisA AtA hai. jaisA honA hogA vaisA hogA. aisA use santoSh hI nahIn hotA. jise AtmAkI lagI hai, usamen vah santoSh mAn hI nahIn sakatA. jise AtmAkI lagI ho, vah aisA nahIn mAnatA hai ki kramabaddha hogA to kaise hogA? use santoSh hI nahIn hotA.

AtmArthIko andarase aisA hotA hai ki main karun, kaise samajhu? kaise gnAyak pahachAnamen Aye? aisI hI bhAvanA use hotI rahe. kramabaddhake sAmane dekhatA hI nahIn. merI aisI bhAvanA hai to merA kramabaddha sulaTA hI hai. mokShakI orakA hai. aisI hI use shraddhA hotI hai. kramabaddhase svayamko santoSh hI nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- use aisA hotA hai ki abhI kar lUn, jaldI ho jAy to karun, abhI hotA ho to mujhe thoDI bhI rAh nahIn dekhanI hai, aisI bhAvanA hotI hai.

samAdhAna- aisI bhAvanA andar honI chAhiye. phir hove kitanA vah dUsarI bAt hai, lekin bhAvanA aisI honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- gurudev sau jahAjakA dRuShTAnt dete the. seThane sunA, sau jahAj Ate the, usamense 99 DUb gaye hain, ek bachA hai. vah merA hI hogA. utanI puNyamen shraddhA.

samAdhAna- yahAn to puruShArtha hai. mujhe AtmA prApta hue binA santoSh nahIn hai. aisA jise ho, use aisA hI hotA hai ki merA kramabaddha to mokShakI or, AtmAkI orakA hai.

bAharake uday jaise hone hote hain, vaise hote hain. use svayam badal nahIn sakatA. antarakI gnAyakadashA pragaT karanI vah apane puruShArthakI bAt hai. gnAyakadashA, usakI gnAtAdhArA hotI hai. isaliye vibhAvakI pariNati andar hai use uday kahate hain, udayadhArA. usakI kartAbuddhi chhUT gayI isaliye usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki vah svata hotI hai. mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotI hai. use andar gnAn hai. jaise honA hogA vaisA hogA, aise gnAnIkI gnAtAdhArAmen aisA nahIn hai. antaramense koI achintya gnAn-vairAgyakI shakti pragaT huyI hai. isaliye puruShArtha binAkA kramabaddha vahAn bhI nahIn liyA jAtA. vibhAvadhArAmen bhI. usake puruShArthakI mandatA

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hai. puruShArthakI kShati har jagah juDI hotI hai.

mumukShu- gnAnIko gnAtAdhArA pragaT huyI hai, usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki udayamen vah vivek nahIn karatA hai. aisA Apako kahanA hai?

samAdhAna- hAn, vah udayakA vivek nahIn karatA hai, aisA artha nahIn hai. matalab bAharakA kramabaddha aur udayadhArAkA kramabaddha, usamen puruShArthakA sambandha hai, aisA vahAn artha nahIn hai. use vivek hai ki mere puruShArthakI mandatAse yah hotA hai.

mumukShu- vahAn bhI ashubh chhoDakar pravartatA hai aur use bhAn bhI hai ki sab kramabaddha hai.

samAdhAna- .. aur puruShArtha uThatA ho to mujhe yah kuchh nahIn chAhiye. mere puruShArthakI mandatAse khaDA hUn. uday hai, uday hai, aisA nahIn hai use.