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mumukShu- astike adhik vichAr bArambAr karane? uttara- ... nahIn hUn, aisA sAthamen A jAtA hai. main kaun hUn? main AtmA gnAyak hUn, chaitanyarUp hUn, anant guNase, anant mahimAse bharA main chaitanya hUn aur ye jo vibhAvakI pariNati (hai), vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, lekin vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. merA svabhAv chaitanyamay hai, main gnAyak hUn. gnAyakake astike joramen main yah nahIn hUn, aisA sAthamen AtA hai. kyonki yah main nahIn hUn, aisA sAthamen Aye, vah sAthamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA.

main kaun hUn? gnAyak hUn, isaliye yah main nahIn hUn. main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn, aisA bArambAr Aye, usake sAth yah main nahIn hUn, main nahIn hUn, isaprakAr donon sAthamen Ate hain. yah main hUn aur yah main nahI hUn, ekasAth AtA hai. "bhedavignAnata siddhA siddhA ye kil kechan'. jo siddha hue, ve bhedavignAnase hue hain, nahIn hue hain ve bhedavignAnake abhAvase nahIn hue hain. bhedavignAnamen chaitanyakA astitva aur parakA nAstitva, donon sAthamen A jAte hain.

dravya par dRuShTi karake dravyadRuShTi aur parase bhinna, donon sAthamen gnAnamen Ate hain aur dRuShTimen gnAyak AtA hai. gnAn dononkA vivek karatA hai ki dravyadRuShTise main yah dravya hUn aur ye vibhAvakI paryAy hotI hai, usase main bhinna hUn. vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, lekin puruShArthakI mandatAse meremen hotA hai. isaprakAr dononkA vivek gnAnamen rahatA hai aur dRuShTi ek chaitanyake astitva par rahatI hai. aur gnAyakakI or svayam pratItakA jor karake us or pariNatiko dRuDh karanekA prayatna kare.

mumukShu- dRuShTi aur gnAnamen to nirvikalpatA hI pakaDamen AtI hai? jab AtmA pakaDamen AtA hai, tab dRuShTi aur gnAn to nirvikalpa hote hain.

samAdhAna- vikalpa chhUTakar jab nirvikalpa hotA hai, pahale to use savikalpatAmen main ek gnAyak hUn, aisA pakaDamen AyA. lekin jo nirvikalpa huA, gnAyakakA astitva grahaN kiyA, phir usamen lInatA baDhAkar usakA upayog svarUpamen sthir ho jAye, tab gnAyak par dRuShTi hai aur gnAn hai vah sab jAnatA hai. gnAn svayam dravyako jAnatA hai

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ki dravya shuddha abhed hai, aisA jAnatA hai. aur paryAyamen jo shuddha paryAy pragaT huyI, usakA jo vedan huA us vedanako bhI jAnatA hai. gnAn donon jAnatA hai. gnAn chaitanya akhaNDako jAnatA hai. dravya ek abhed dravya hai use jAnatA hai aur paryAyamen jo vedan huA, us guNakI mahimA aur paryAyakA vedan-AnandakA vedan koI apUrva, anupam hotA hai, use bhI gnAn jAnatA hai. us vedanako jAnanevAlA kaun hai? gnAn hai. us svAnubhUtiko jAnanevAlA gnAn hai. gnAn sab jAnatA hai.

vikalpase chhUTakar jo chaitanyakI svAnubhUti huyI, chaitanyakI anubhUti huyI, koI apUrva jo ananta kAlase nahIn pragaT huA thA, jo siddha bhagavAnake jAtikA hai, jo siddha bhagavAnakA ansh hai, aisI jo anubhUti huyI use gnAnamen jAnatA hai aur dRuShTi ek dravya par rahatI hai.

mumukShu- dRuShTikA abhyAs bArambAr karanA?

samAdhAna- dRuShTikA abhyAs aur gnAnamen vivek rakhe ki yah hai, yah nahIn hai aisA nahIn, main usase bhinna hUn.

mumukShu- ... bhedavignAnamen sahajarUpase honA chAhiye?

samAdhAna- pahale abhyAs karate-karate sahaj hotA hai. pahale vikalpa sAthamen AtA hai.

mumukShu- ghUTate-ghUTate sahaj hotA hai?

samAdhAna- ghUTate-ghUTate sahaj hotA hai. prayatna karanese. pahalese sahaj nahIn hotA. sahaj svabhAv hai, parantu svayam prayatna kare to hotA hai. ... vahAn-se Age baDhatA hai. svAnubhUti pragaT huyI yAnI muktikA mArga pragaT ho gayA. Anshik mokSha aur muktikI paryAy pragaT huyI. usamense sAdhanA ho aur abhI asthiratA hai isaliye vah bAhar Aye to usakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA vaise hI chAlU rahatI hai. aur usamen lInatA baDhAnekA prayatna kare. Age baDhanepar usakI lInatA baDhanese chAritrakI dashA antaramen (hotI hai). phir antarmuhUrta- antarmuhUrtamen svAnubhUtikI dashA pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShu- lInatAke liye bhI puruShArthakA yahI prakAr hai?

samAdhAna- ek hI hai.

mumukShu- pahale aur bAdamen?

samAdhAna- jo mArga samyagdarshanakA hai, vahI mArga lInatAkA mArga hai, vahI chAritrakA hai. dRuShTike balase lInatA baDhAtA hai. samyagdRuShTiko lInatA kam hai to dRuShTike balase lInatA baDhAtA hai, vah mArga hai. lInatAkI kamI hai. svarUpamen sthiratA honekI kamI hai.

mumukShu- bhAvanA to yahI hotI hai ki kab pUrNa ho jAUn.

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samAdhAna- bhAvanA to ek hI hai, kab pUrNa ho jAUn. ye kuchh nahIn chAhiye. yah sab vikalpa aur vibhAv hai, vah vibhAv sab prakArase tyAgane yogya hai, hey hai. nau-nau koTise sab tyAgane (yogya hai). dRuShTimen utanA bal hai ki in sabakA dRuShTimen tyAg vartatA hai. parantu vah asthiratAmen rahatA hai. isaliye yadi abhI pUrNatA hotI ho to yah kuchh nahIn chAhiye. lInatA yadi baDh jAye to svarUpamen jam jAUn, aisI bhAvanA hai. lekin utanI lInatA baDhatI nahIn, upayog bAhar AtA hai. jo svAnubhUti pragaT huyI usakI use itanI mahimA hai ki bas, isake sivA mujhe kuchh nahIn chAhiye. dRuShTimen to sabakA sab prakArase tyAg ho gayA hai.

gnAn pratyakhyAn hai. dRuShTimen tyAg ho gayA, lekin asthiratAmen abhI tyAgakI kamI hai. (isaliye) lInatA baDhAtA jAtA hai. munidashAmen bhI antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen svarUpamen jamate jAte hain. usamen hI unakI shreNIkA prArambh hotA hai. usImen kevalagnAn pragaT hotA hai. dravya-guN-paryAyakA prayojanabhUt gnAn ho to bhI AtmAko pahachAn sakatA hai.

mumukShu- visheSh gnAnakI AvashyakatA nahIn hai?

samAdhAna- visheSh gnAn ho athavA bahut shAstra paDhA ho yA bahut abhyAs kiyA ho usake sAth sambandha nahIn hai. mUl prayojanabhUt dravya-guN-paryAy (kA svarUp jAne), yah vibhAv bhinna hai aur merA svabhAv bhinna hai. prayojanabhUt jAne to usamen muktikA mArga shurU ho jAtA hai. phir jo Age nahIn baDh sakatA hai to phir use visheSh gnAn jAnane hetu, visheSh spaShTatA hetu shAstrakA abhyAs dRuDhatAke liye kare to usamen to lAbhakA kAraN hai.

mumukShu- aisA abhyAs karanese svayamko bhAs hotA hai ki ab prApta karUngA hI, visheSh samIp Ate-Ate?

samAdhAna- bhAs hotA hai svayamke puruShArthako lekara. svayamkI hUmph svayamko Aye, lekin puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. use aisA hotA hai ki main puruShArtha karUngA hI. parantu use puruShArthamen der lage to shAnti aur dhairyase puruShArtha kare. ulajhanamen nahIn AtA.

mumukShu- .. shankA nahIn hotI, isaprakAr hI prApta hotA hai.

samAdhAna- yah ek hI prakAr hai. main gnAyak hUn, us gnAyakako pahachAne. main chaitanya hUn, vah svayam svayamko pahachAn le, svayam svayamkI dRuDhatA kare aur svayam svayammen lInatA kare. nij gharamen vAs kare aur svayamkI dRuDh pratIt kare aur vibhAvase chhUTakar usakA bhedagnAn kare, usase bhinnatA kare, vah ek hI mArga hai, dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. .. guN kyA, paryAy kyA, aisA prayojanabhUt gnAn usamen A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- 73 varShake jIvanamen Aj pahalI bAr sUtra sunA ki gnAyakake dvAr par

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Tahel lagAnI. Aj tak dUsarI Tahel lagAnekA sunA thA, parantu gnAyakake dvAr par Tahel lagAnA to Apane hI batAyA.

samAdhAna- vahI Tahel lagAnI hai. gnAyakake dvAr par hI Tahel lagAnI hai, to hI prApta hotA hai.

mumukShu- Ap AshIrvAd dIjiye, ham Tahel lagAye.

samAdhAna- yahI karanA hai. gurudevane yahI mArga batAyA hai aur yahI karanA hai. gnAyak.. gnAyaka. gurudev kahate the, tU chaitanya bhagavAn hai. subah AtA hai na? tU paramAtmA hai, tU paramAtmA hai aisA nakkI kara. gurudevane yahI kahA hai aur yahI karanA hai. gnAyakadevakI mahimA karake usake dvAr par Tahel lagAnI hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! puruShArtha thoDA manda ho aur dRuDhatA sachchI ho to bhayabhIt hone jaisA hai? puruShArtha thoDA manda ho aur dRuDhatA pUrNa ho to?

samAdhAna- puruShArtha jyAdA karanA. dRuDhatA hai aisA lage, parantu jo dRuDhatA andarase gaharAIse AnI chAhiye, usamen sahaj dRuDhatA alag hotI hai, vikalpa sahitakI dRuDhatA alag hotI hai. to bhI svayamko lagatA hai dRuDhatA to barAbar hai, yahI mArga hai, aisA lage svayamne dRuDhatA kI ho to. svayam prayatna nahIn kar sakatA hai, prayatna kare, Tahel lagAye, bArambAr prayatna kare, nahIn ho to. bahut logonko aisA lage ki dRuDhatA to barAbar hai ki yahI mArga hai, lekin hotA nahIn hai. svayamke prayatnakI kamI hai.

usamen bhakti sAthamen A jAtI hai. gnAyakakI mahimA, gnAyakakI bhakti jise ho vah Age baDhe binA nahIn rahatA. gnAyak.. gnAyak.. mujhe gnAyakake sivA kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aisI gnAyakakI bhakti andar AnI chAhiye. main dekhun to gnAyak, mujhe nidrAmen gnAyakako dekhanA hai, mujhe baiThate hue, khAte-pIte mujhe gnAyak hI chAhiye. gnAyakadevakI mahimA, gnAyakakI bhakti, gnAyakakI stuti, gnAyakako dekhanA hai, gnAyakake darshan karane hain, vah gnAyakakI bhakti hai.

jaise bhagavAnake dvAr par mujhe bhagavAnake darshan karane hain, bhagavAnakI stuti karun, bhagavAnakI pUjA karun. usI prakAr mujhe gurudevakI vANI sunanI hai, gurudevake darshan karane hain, gurudevake darshan karun, gurudevako dekhatA hI rahUn, aisA hotA hai.

vaise main gnAyakako hI dekhatA rahUn, gnAyakake guNagrAm karun, gnAyakakI pUjA karun. gnAyak to gnAyakakI bhaktise pragaT hue binA rahe nahIn, vaise bhakti ho to. gnAyakako pahachAnakar ki yahI gnAyak hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. gnAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnakar nakkI kare ke yahI gnAyak hai. ab, mujhe gnAyak hI chAhiye. jaise jinendradev, guruke lakShaNase pahachAnakar nakkI kare ki yahI satpuruSh hai, yahI guru hai aur yahI dev hai. phir is devakI pUjA

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karanI hai, is devakI bhakti karanI, gurukI bhakti karanI hai. isaprakAr parIkShA karake nakkI karake phir unakA stavan kare, guNagrAm kare, guru kyA kahate hain, unakA Ashay samajhanekA prayatna kare.

vaise yah gnAyak hI hai, aisA lakShaNase pahachAnakar nakkI kare. phir usakI bhakti aur usakI stuti, gnAyakake pIchhe lage to pragaT hue binA rahe nahIn. vah bhaktimArga hai. gnAyakakI bhakti andar sAthamen AnI chAhiye. dev-guru-shAstrakI bhaktike sAth gnAyakakI bhakti AnI chAhiye, parantu lakShaNako pahachAnakara. lakShaN pahachAnanA chAhiye ki yah gnAyak hI hai. yah lakShaN gnAyakakA hai, dUsarekA nahIn hai, aisA Aye to use gnAyakakI bhakti kahate hain. lakShaNako pahachAnakar honI chAhiye.

samajhanapUrvakakI bhakti honI chAhiye, gnAnapUrvak bhakti honI chAhiye. samajhe binA aise hI bAharase bhakti karatA rahe aise nahIn. gnAyakakI bhakti sAthamen AnI chAhiye, gurukI bhaktike sAtha. gurukI bhakti kise kahen? dev aur gurukI. ki gnAyakakI bhakti sAthamen Aye to vah bhakti hai.

mumukShu- bAhya bhakti.

samAdhAna- mAtra bAhya nahIn.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! gnAnIko jab shubharAg AtA hai usamen to use khaTak lagatI hai. barAbar hai? to jab vah shubharAgamen juDatA hai tab utsAhapUrvak juDatA hai ki dukhapUrvak juDatA hai?

samAdhAna- jis vakta vah juDatA hai us samay use bhedagnAn vartatA hai. mere puruShArthakI kamajorIke kAraN juDanA hotA hai, andar lInatA nahIn hotI hai isaliye shubharAgamen juDatA hai. lekin jis samay shubharAg uThatA hai, us samay aisA vikalpa nahIn karatA hai ki yah shubharAg hai, shubharAg hai. aise nahIn hotA. sahaj shubharAg AtA hai aur use bhedagnAnakI dhArA vartatI hai. gnAyak bhinna hI rahatA hai aur shubharAgamen aise tanmay nahIn ho jAtA ki vah gnAyakako bhUl jAye. gnAyak bhinna rahakar use shubharAg AtA hai ki main to bhinna hI hUn. yah shubharAg hai. ye to vibhAvakI orakA bhAg hai, merA gnAyakakA bhAg, mere svagharakA bhAg bhinna hai aur yah shubharAgakA bhAg hai vah bhAg vibhAvakA ghar hai. vah bhinna hai. aisA gnAn barAbar hai. usase bhinna rahakar shubharAg (AtA hai). usamen ekatva nahIn hotA, usamen AkUl-vyAkUl nahIn hotA.

usakA bahut utsAh dikhAI de. dUsarese usakA utsAh adhik dikhAI de, usakI bhAvanA vaisI dikhatI hai, lekin vah bhinna hI rahatA hai. usamen vaise ekatva tanmay nahIn ho jAtA ki svayamko bhUl jAye. aise bhinna rahatA hai. bAr-bAr vikalpa nahIn karatA

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hai ki are..! yah dukh hai. aise bAr-bAr vikalpa nahIn karatA. usakI dhArA hI bhinna vartatI hai.

mumukShu- gnAyakakA lakShaN hai use..

samAdhAna- gnAyakakA lakShaN gnAn lakShaN hai. gnAn lakShaN aisA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. gujarAtImen bolatI hUn. gnAn lakShaN AtmAkA asAdhAraN hai aur usake dvArA gnAyak pahachAnA jAtA hai. guNase guNI pahachAnA jAtA hai. guN-guNIkA bhed AtmAmen hai, vah vAstavik bhed nahIn hai, lakShaNabhedase bhed hai. lekin us lakShaNase-guNase guNI pahachAnanemen AtA hai. vah gnAnalakShaN-guN aisA asAdhAraN hai ki us gnAn dvArA AtmA guNI- gnAyak hai, vah pahachAnA jA sakatA hai. aur gurudevane bahut darshAyA hai.

AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, gnAyak hai, AtmAmen sab bharA hai, AtmA apUrva hai aur yahI karane jaisA hai. samyagdarshan hote hI muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. gnAn lakShaNase hI AtmA pahachAnA jAtA hai. AtmAkA lakShaN hI vah hai. ye sab lakShaN dikhAI de vah bAhya lakShaN hai. ye sab jaD parapadArthakA lakShaN hai. yah jaD sharIr kuchh jAnatA nahIn, jAnanevAlA ek AtmA hI hai. us AtmAko pahachAnanA. gnAyak lakShaNa. usamen akhaNDa gnAyakako pahachAnanA.

gnAyakakI bhakti yAnI andar gnAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. gnAyak kaun hai? gnAyak koI apUrva vastu hai, anupam hai, vah koI alag chIj hai. usakI bhakti, usakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. gnAyak koI anupam hai.

gurudev kahate the, vAstavik prabhAt-andar nayA prabhAt andar samyagdarshan hotA hai tab pragaT hotA hai. aur us prabhAtamense pUrA kevalagnAn-sUrya usamense pragaT hotA hai. is panchamakAlamen gurudev padhAre aur panchamakAlamen gurudev yahAn padhAre vahI is jainashAsanamen gurudev padhAre vahI prabhAt thA. koI kuchh jAnate nahIn the, kuchh nahIn jAnate the. kyA mArga hai, svAnubhUtikA mArga jAnate nahIn the. svAnubhUtiko koI nahIn pahachAnate the. vaisemen svAnubhUtikA panth batAyA.

andhakAr vyApta ho gayA thA. svAnubhUtikA nAm kisIko nahIn AtA thA ki andar svAnubhUti ho vahI yathArtha muktikA mArga hai. koI jAnatA nahIn thA. muktikA mArga sab kriyAse jAnate the. bAharase thoDe sAmAyik, pratikramaN kar le, thoDA sIkh le to mAne ki isase mokSha ho jAyegA. mokShako koI pahachAnate nahIn the. svAnubhUtikA panth gurudevane prakAshit kiyA. svAnubhUti gurudevane batAyI, munikA svarUp gurudevanA batAyA, kevalagnAnIkA svarUp gurudevane batAyA. sab gurudevane batAyA. jinendradev kaise hote hain, yah gurudevane batAyA. sachche shAstra kaise ho vah gurudevane batAyA. sab gurudevane batAyA.

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jinendra bhagavAn jagatamen sUrya samAn hain aur unakI jo pratimA hain, unakA pratibimb, vah pratimA bhI gurudevake pratApase padhAre hain. sab gurudevakA pratAp hai. gurudev jainashAsanamen is bharatakShetramen padhAre vahI ek prabhAt hai. sUrya samAn gurudev hI the. dev-guru-shAstra hI is jagatamen suprabhAt hai aur unake nimittase andar jo upAdAn taiyAr hokar jo samyagdarshan pragaT hotA hai, vah andaramen ek suprabhAt hai. nUtan varSha vah pragaT hotA hai.

gurudev ek navInatA is bharatakShetramen le Aye ki jo koI nahIn jAnatA nahIn thA. satya panth batA diyA. us satya panth par sab muDe hain. satya panthakI ek navInatA AyI hai, vahI vAstavik navInatA hai. samyagdarshan pragaT hotA hai, vahAnse kevalagnAn pragaT hotA hai. yahAn andhakAr vyApta huA thA, usamense samyagdarshanakA panth, svAnubhUtikA panth darshAyA hai. yah ek navInatA hai.

gurudevane itane sAlase jo upadesh diyA hai aur jo upadeshakI jamAvaT karake andaramen svayamne jamAvaT kI aur us panth par svayam prayAN kare vahI ek navInatA hai. aur vahI panth grahaN karanA, vahI ek navInatA hai. vAstavik suprabhAt to samyagdarshanase hotA hai, lekin usake pahale bhI gurudevane yah panth batAyA aur us upadeshakI jamAvaT kI use svayam grahaN kare to us rAste par chale. vahI andaramen ek navInatA pragaT karaneke panth par svayam chale to bhI achchhA hai. vAstavikarUpase gnAyakakA panth hI grahaN karane jaisA hai. gnAyakakA panth, usakA nimitta kaun? sachche dev-guru-shAstra.

jo bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai, vah svayamko pahachAne. svayamko pahachAne vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai, aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. bAharase dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti aur andar gnAyakakI bhakti, gnAyakakI mahimA Aye to gnAyakakI or muDatA hai. gurukI bhakti Aye, guru kyA svAnubhUtikA mArga batAte hain! gurudev kyA anupam AtmAkA svarUp batAte hain! aise AtmAkI bhakti aur mahimA svayamko Aye to us or svayam muDatA hai. main aise AtmAke kaise darshan karUn, AtmAko kaise nirakhatA rahUn, kaise dekhun, isaprakAr bhaktise gnAyakakI or muDe to muD sakatA hai. mAtra AtmA gnAnalakShaN, gnAnalakShaN (hai), aise vichArase nakkI kare, parantu usakI mahimA nahIn Aye to us or muD nahIn sakatA.

guru kaise grahaN ho? ki guru jo kahate hain, dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp koI apUrva rItise svayam grahaN kare to use gurukI kuchh mahimA Aye, to usane guruko grahaN kiye hain. gurukI mahimA, jinendradevakI mahimA. gurudevane shAstra batAye hain. shAstrako koI jAnatA nahIn thA. dUsare sab shvetAmbarake shAstra the use sab shAstra mAnate the. sachche shAstra kaun- se hain, vah bhI gurudevane batAyA hai. gurudevakA hI param upakAr hai. aur usI panth par prayAN karake usamen hI navInatA lAnI, gnAyakake panth par chalanA vahI vAstavik

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navInatA hai aur vahI karane jaisA hai.

bArambAr gnAyak.. gnAyak karatA huA gnAyakake pIchhe lagakar, yah sharIr to bhinna hI hai, vah to jaD hai. andar vibhAv hote hain vah vibhAv bhI svayamkA svarUp nahIn hai, vikalpakI katAr chale vah bhI svayam nahIn hai. usase bhinna AtmA koI anupam hai. us AtmAko pahachAnanekA prayatna kare vah yathArtha hai, vahI jIvanamen karane jaisA hai. bAkI sab to chalate hI rahatA hai. hetu ek AtmArthakA, AtmAkA prayojan honA chAhiye. gnAyak.. gnAyak karatA huA Age baDhe to gnAyak prasanna hue binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- prasanna hotA hai?

samAdhAna- gnAyakadev prasanna hotA hai. bAharase jaise guru prasanna hote hain, vaise andar gnAyak prasanna hue binA nahIn rahatA.

mumukShu- gurukI kRupA jaise hotI hai, vaise gnAyakakI kRupA hotI hai. samAdhAna- hAn, gnAyakakI bhI kRupA hotI hai. mumukShu- arthAt gnAyakakA jIvan jInekI taiyArI karanI chAhiye. samAdhAna- gnAyakakA jIvan jInekI taiyArI karanI chAhiye. vahI satya hai. dev- guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya, andar gnAyakakA sAnnidhya kaise prApta ho, us or kaise prayAN ho, vahI karane jaisA hai. bhale hI yathArtha bAdamen pragaT hotA hai, lekin usake liye svayam puruShArtha, mahimA Adi lAkar kare to hue binA nahIn rahatA. jise mArga pragaT huA unhen pahalese bhedagnAn nahIn thA, pahale ekatvabuddhi thI, usamense hI bhedagnAn karake Age baDhe hain.