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mumukShu- rAg aur trikAlI gnAyak svabhAvake bIch sandhi hai, vahAn pragnAchhainI paTakanese bhinna kiyA jA sakatA hai, aisA samayasAramen AtA hai. to sandhi jaisA kuchh dikhAI nahIn detA hai, to kaise bhinna karanA?

samAdhAna- trikAl svabhAv aur rAg svabhAv na? bIchamen sandhi hai. svayam pahachAne to ho na. gnAyak svabhAv jAnanevAlA aur yah rAg donon bhinna vastu hai. jAnanevAlA jo trikAl gnAyak jAnanevAlA hai, jAnanevAlA so main aur rAg bhinna hai. rAg vah rAg hI. rAgakA vedan hI alag jAtikA hai aur gnAnakA bhinna jAtikA hai. gnAn jAnanevAlA hai, gnAnamen rAg nahIn hai, gnAn to vItarAgI hai, jAnanevAlA hai, usakA jAnanA svabhAv hai aur rAgakA vedan bhinna usakI AkulatAkA vedan bhinna hai. andar gaharAImen jAkar dekhe, sUkShma hokar dekhe to gnAn to gnAn hai, gnAn rAg rahit vItarAgI gnAn hai. yah to rAg hai. rAgakI AkulatA aur rAgakA vedan alag hai aur gnAnakA vedan alag jAtikA hai. use svayam pahachAn sakatA hai, vah usakI sandhi hai. gnAn jo jAnanevAlA vah main aur rAg bhinna, use lakShaNase pahachAne, vah dononkI sandhi hai. sandhi dikhAI de aisI hai. (gaharAImen) jAy to sandhiko pahachAn sake aisA hai. pragnAchhainIse apane gnAyakako pahachAn sakatA hai.

... mArga, svAnubhUtikA mArga gnAyakakA abhyAs karanese hotA hai. shubhabhAv to usake sAth rahatA hai. svabhAvako pahachAne, svabhAvakI mahimA lage, svabhAvakI laganI lage to hotA hai. din aur rAt use chain nahIn paDe, mujhe gnAyak kaise pragaT ho? jAgate, sote, svapnamen gnAyakakI laganI lage to hotA hai. aise to nahIn ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- vichAramen ..

samAdhAna- vichAramen kyA, laganI lage to vichAr Aye. binA laganIke nahIn hotA hai. main gnAyak hUn, main jAnanevAlA hUn. sirpha bolanese kyA hotA hai? bhItar vichAr kare to bhI bhItaramen gnAyakakI laganI lage to hove. aise nakkI karanA ki main gnAyak hI hUn. gnAn lakShaNase pahachAnA jAtA hai, pahachAnanemen AtA hai. to bhI usakI laganI tab hotA hai. pahale nirNay karanA ki main gnAnasvabhAvI hUn. parantu gnAnasvabhAvIkA prayatna kaise

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ho? ki laganI lage to prayatna ho sakatA hai, binA laganIke nahIn ho sakatA hai. mAtra bolanese yA aise hI raTane nahIn hotA hai.

yathArtha samajhe, yathArtha. sthUl Upar-Uparase samajhanese nahIn hotA hai. yathArthath svabhAvakA lakShaN pahachAnakar, bhItaramense usakI laganI lage to hotA hai. aise nahIn ho sakatA. raTane mAtrase yA bolane mAtrase nahIn hotA hai. vah to ThIk hai ki aisA vichAr kare to bhI achchhA hai, lekin vichArake sAth usakI mahimA lage, vibhAvakA ras chhUT jAy, tabhI hotA hai.

mumukShu- pUjya mAtAjI! svAnubhUtike kAlamen jo Ananda AtA hai vah sarvAngase AtA hai yA amuk pradeshommen AtA hai?

samAdhAna- sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. sab guNonkA ansh nirmal hotA hai. amuk pradeshake sAth usakA koI sambandha nahIn hai. asankhya pradeshI AtmA hai. usamen sarva guNAnsh so samyakatva. sarva guNonkA ansh usamen nirmal hotA hai. shAstramen AtA hai ki manakA nimitta hotA hai. parantu manakA vikalpa to gauN ho jAtA hai. aise do bhAg nahIn ho jAte. sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. sarva guNonkA ansh usamen pragaT hotA hai. usake pradeshakA khaNDa (nahIn hotA). amuk pradeshamen Ave, amuk pradeshamen nahIn AtA, (aisA nahIn hai). vah to kahanemen AtA hai ki man dvArA hRudayakamalamen hotA hai, parantu usamen sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshan, sarva guNonkA ansh pragaT hotA hai. vah to nimittase kahanemen AtA hai ki man.. man to, vikalpa to gauN ho jAtA hai-vikalpa to chhUT jAtA hai.

mumukShu- sarvAngase Anandako jAnate bhI hai.

samAdhAna- Anandako jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- sarvAngase jAnatA hai?

samAdhAna- sarvAngase jAnatA hai. ... kevalagnAn to huA nahIn. svAnubhav ek sAdhak dashAkI pragaT huyI hai. parantu jAnanemen AtA hai. usakA pradesh par dhyAn bhI nahIn hai. kaunase pradeshase AyA aur kaunase pradeshamen nahIn AyA, pradeshake khaNDa par usakA dhyAn bhI nahIn hai. AtmA akhaNDa hai. AtmAmen koI khaNDa hotA nahIn. kShetrakA khaNDa vAstavikamen hotA hI nahIn. usakA pradesh par dhyAn bhI nahIn hai. main sarvAnshase jAnatA hUn ki sarva pradeshase jAnatA hUn, usakA pradesh par dhyAn nahIn hai, kShetra par dhyAn nahIn hai.

svAnubhUti, usake svabhAvamen lInatA huyI, gnAnasvabhAv gnAyakamen lInatA huyI. pradesh par dhyAn hai vah bhed par dRuShTi hai. aise bhed par usakI dRuShTi nahIn jAtI hai. usamen sahaj jAn letA hai. guN, paryAy sab jAnanemen AtA hai. pradesh bhinna, yah bhinna aisI

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bhinnatA par usakA dhyAn bhI nahIn hai. jo hotA hai,.... pradeshakA khaNDa nahIn hotA hai.

mumukShu- pUjya mAtAjI! ek prashna aur hai. gnAnIko nishchay-vyavaharakA sumel hotA hai, to ashubhake kAlamen vyavahArakA sumel hotA hai?

samAdhAna- kyA? gnAnIko...

mumukShu- nishchay-vyavahArakA sumel rahatA hai, jab ashubhakA kAl rahatA hai, us kAlamen vyavahArakA sumel kaise banegA? ashubhabhAv ho us vakta vyavahArakA sumel kis prakAr hai?

samAdhAna- jAnatA hai. dravyadRuShTise svabhAv par dRuShTi hai, gnAnamen jAnatA hai ki shubhAshubh bhAv sab vyavahAr hai. sAdhakadashA vyavahAr hai. darshan, gnAn, chAritrakI jo nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah bhI vyavahAr hai, bhed vyavahAr hai aur shubhAshubh bhAv hai vah bhI vyavahAr hai. ashubhabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai aur shubhabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. ashuddhanishchayanayase shubhabhAv aur ashubhAv, ashuddha nishchayanayase chaitanyakI paryAyamen hote hain, usako vyavahAr kahanemen AtA hai. vah sab vyavahAr hI hai. vyavahAr sAthamen hai. shubh-ashubh donon vyavahAr hai. ek shubh vyavahAr hai aisA nahIn hai, ashubh bhI vyavahAr hai.

pAnchave guNasthAnamen aNuvratakA hotA hai, chauthe guNasthAnamen dev-guru-shAstra AdikA shubhabhAv rahatA hai, us bhUmikAke yogya shubhabhAv rahatA hai. sAdhakadashAke sAthamen shubhabhAv rahatA hai, usake yogya ashubhabhAv rahatA hai, jo usakI bhUmikA hai. usake yogya rahatA hai. gnAyakako bhUlakar, gnAyakako chhoDakar usako ashubhabhAv nahIn hotA hai. gnAyakako bhUl gayA aur ashubhavamen ekatvabuddhi ho gayI, aisA gnAnIko nahIn hotA hai. bhItaramen anantAnubandhIkA ras TUT gayA, chauthe guNasthAnamen anantAnubandhIkA ras TUT gayA to gnAyakakI maryAdA toDakar ashubhabhAvamen aisA nahIn chalA jAtA ki gnAyakakI maryAdA TUT jAy, aisA nahIn hotA. ashubhabhAv Ave to bhI bhedagnAnakI dhArA to banI rahatI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA ashubhabhAvamen bhI rahatI hai aur shubhabhAvamen bhI rahatI hai. donommen rahatI hai. usake yogya shubhabhAv AtA hai aur ashubhabhAv bhI usakI bhUmikAke yogya hotA hai.

gnAyakakI maryAdA toDakar usamen ekatva nahIn hotA. gnAyakakI pariNati chalatI rahatI hai. ashubhabhAv hove to bhI gnAyakakA bhedagnAn chAlU hI rahatA hai. aise ashubhabhAv usako maryAdA toDakar nahIn hotA hai. jaisA agnAnIko hotA hai, vaisA usako nahIn hotA hai. use gauN ho gayA hai, nahIn ho sakatA. aisA mel rahatA hai. bhUmikAko toDakar aisA ashubhabhAv bhI nahIn hotA hai. sAdhakadashAmen aisI sandhi rahatI hai. dravyadRuShTikI mukhyatA aur sAthamen vyavahAr, bhUmikAke yogya shubh aur ashubh donon huA karate hain.

mumukShu- donommen kyA antar hai?

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samAdhAna- shuddhaupayog to svarUpamen lIn ho jAy, use shuddhaupayog kahanemen AtA hai. shuddha pariNati donon samay (rahatI hai). bAhar savikalpa dashAmen hove to bhI shuddha pariNati rahatI hai. shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. bAharamen shubhaupayog hove yA ashubhaupayog ho, upayog bAhar hove to bhI pariNati-shuddha pariNati to chAlU hI rahatI hai. bhedagnAnakI pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. usako shuddha pariNati kahanemen AtA hai. sahaj gnAyakakI pariNati rahatI hai, shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. upayog bAhar hove to bhI shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. svarUpamen lIn hove to shuddha pariNati aur shuddhaupayog donon hote hain.

... gurudev virAjate the us vakta yah kuchh nahIn thA. main to mandiramen baiThI rahatI thI.

mumukShu- .. darshan karanekI ichchhA ho..

samAdhAna- .. andar AtmAkA vahAn baiThe-baiThe... gurudevane bahut spaShTa kiyA hai. shAstramen to sab AtA hI hai ki bhagavAn mahAvidehakShetramen virAjate hain. sImandhar bhagavAn mahAvidehamen virAjate hain. pAnch videh hai usamen sabamen bhagavAn virAjate hain. jambU dvipamen mahAvideh hai usamen sImandhar bhagavAn virAjate hain. puShkalAvatI (nagarImen) bhagavAn virAjate hain. sImandhar bhagavAn samavasaraNamen virAj rahe hain. ... yahAn vItarAgadevakA virah huA hai. kevalagnAnI yA vItarAg ...

divyadhvani chhUT rahI hai, samavasaraN hai, dev aur indron Uparase Ate hain, munionkA samUh hai. bhagavAnakI divyadhvani sunakar bahut muni hote hain, shrAvak hote hain, samyagdRuShTi hote hain.

mumukShu- kundakunda bhagavAn vahAn padhAre honge us vakta to Apane sAkShAt unakI mukhamudrA dekhI hogI. Apako to barAbar..

samAdhAna- munirAjakI kyA bAt karanI? kundakundAchArya mahA samartha munirAja.

mumukShu- Ap maujUd the. ApakI maujUdagI, gurudevakI maujUdagI..

samAdhAna- bhagavAn samavasaraNamen mahAvideh kShetramen virAjate hain.

mumukShu- bhagavAnakI divyadhvani chhUTatI ho tab to..

samAdhAna- jis gAmvamen virAjate hon, vahAn roj jAnA hotA hai. bhagavAn to vihAr karate hain. vihAr kare tab vihAramen jo sAthamen rahate hain, ve nirantar sunate hain. ek gAmvase dUsare gAmvamen bhagavAn vihAr karate hain. usamen jo shrAvak dUsare gAmvamen jAte hain, ve sab nirantar sunate haiain. jis gAmvamen bhagavAn virAjate hain, vahAn nirantar sunanekA yog banatA hai.

mumukShu- bhagavAnakA vihAr hotA hogA, gati ekadam tej hotI hogI. jaise yah

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moTar, plen jAte hain vaise gati hogI? yA sAmAnyarUpase..

samAdhAna- bhagavAnakA vihAr? bhagavAn to AkAshamen chalate hain. bhagavAn AkAshamen chalate hain. nIche dev kamalakI rachanA karate hain. bhagavAnake charaN jahAn paDe vahAn dev suvarNa kamal rachate hain. mAno bhagavAn kamalamen chalate ho, aisA lage!

mumukShu- bhagavAn to Upar virAjate hain to ashakta AdamI Upar kaise jA sake?

samAdhAna- bhagavAnake samavasaraNakI siDhIyAn chaDhe to ashakta ho vah shaktaktivAn ho jAtA hai. ashakta koI rahatA hI nahIn. shAstramen AtA hai. bahere sunane lagate hain, aisA AtA hai. bhagavAnakA atishay aisA hai. gUnge bolane lagate haiain, andhA dekhane lagatA hai. siDhIyAn chaDhanemen use koI takalIph nahIn hotI hai.

... samyagdarshanake ekadam samIp A jAy, usakI vichAradhArA alag jAtakI hotI hai. parantu usake pahale jise jignAsA hai to jignAsA kare ki AtmA kaisA hai? kaise pahachAnA jAy? usakI laganI lagAye. AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, gnAyak hai. yah sharIr main nahIn hUn, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, AkulatArUp hai. main jAnanevAlA ek gnAyakatattva anAdiananta shAshvat hUn. usakA vichAr karatA rahe. main gnAyak hUn, main Anandase bharA AtmA hUn, usake vichAr karatA rahe. shAstramen jo (AtA hai ki) dravya-guN-paryAy AtmAke kyA? paradravyake kyA? un sabakA vichAr karatA hai. use ek AtmAke sivA kahIn chain nahIn paDatA. kahIn or ruchatA nahIn. ek AtmAke sivA kahIn ruchatA nahIn. vikalpamen usakA man TikatA nahIn. bAr-bAr AtmAkI or jAtA hai. AtmA kaise pahachAnUn? aisI laganI use din aur rAt lagI hai. ekadam samIp ho jAy, usakI to kyA bAt karanI? use to ekadam tIvra laganI lagI hai. AtmA.. AtmAke sivA use kahIn ruchatA nahIn.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- hAn, shubhabhAv hotA hai, lekin ekadam laganI lagI hotI hai. vikalpa mujhe nahIn chAhiye, gnAyak kaise pragaT ho, aisI andarase gaharAIse laganI lagI hotI hai. shubhabhAv hote hain, parantu AtmA jAnanevAlA hai vah main hUn, aise lakShaNase pahachAnakar nakkI kare ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI main hUn, usake sivA bAkI sab mujhase bhinna hai, vah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. yah sab mujhase bhinna par hai. merA svabhAv bhinna hai, yah vibhAv hotA hai vah bhI merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aisI use laganI lagI hai. main gnAyak hI hUn, aisA nirNay karake Age jAtA hai. nishchay karake. yah shubhabhAv main nahIn hUn, main to jAnanevAlA hUn. tIvra laganI lagI hai. bArambAr main jAnanevAlA hUn. chAhe jo vikalpa Aye, shubhabhAv Aye to bhI main jAnaneAlA, jAnanevAlA, aisI use antaramense dRuDhatA aur amuk prakArase

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aisI pariNati hotI hai. vAstavik to bAdamen hotA hai, parantu use aisA dRuDh nirNay hotA hai.

mumukShu- AtmA itanA shaktishAlI hone par bhI hAthamen nahIn AtA, to yah kamajorI kyon rah jAtI hai?

samAdhAna- AtmA..?

mumukShu- shaktishAlI honepar bhI hAthamen nahIn AtA hai.

samAdhAna- nahIn AtA hai, vah apanI kShati hai. shaktivAn hone par bhI nahIn AtA hai. svayam parapadArthamen ruchi rakhakar paDA hai, AtmAkI ruchi karatA nahIn. ananta shaktivAn aur ananta mahimAvant hai. svayamko mahimA nahIn AtI hai. ananta shaktivAnakA use nirNay nahIn AtA hai, use dRuDhatA nahIn hotI hai ki main shaktishAlI hUn. main ananta sAmarthyavAn hUn, use svayamko shraddhA nahIn hotI hai. isaliye pragaT nahIn hotA hai. shraddhA ho to pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShu- shraddhA kaise karanI?

samAdhAna- shraddhA to shraddhA karanese shraddhA hotI hai. sab shankA chhoDakar andar samajhakar shraddhA kare. yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI main hUn. main ananta sAmarthyase bharapUr AtmA hUn. yah sab main nahIn hUn. main to ananta shaktivAn hUn. yah koI mujhe rokate nahIn. karma mujhe rokatA nahIn yA parapadArtha rokate nahIn. main to ananta shaktishAlI AtmA hUn. aisI shraddhA kare to hotI hai. kiye binA nahIn hotI.

.. ananta bAr gayA lekin vApas AyA. samavasaraNamen ananta bAr gayA parantu bhagavAnako pahachAnA nahIn. bhagavAn kise kahate hain? bhagavAnakA sab bAharase dekhA. bhagavAnakI Ruddhi, samavasaraN.. yah bhagavAn hai aisA mAn liyA. aisI Ruddhi ho vah bhagavAn aur gandhakUTImen pIThikA par baiThe ho vah bhagavAn, aisI vANI chhUTe vah bhagavAna. antaramen bhagavAn kaise, use bhagavAnakI mahimA AyI nahIn. bhagavAnakI vANImen kyA AtA hai, usakA vichAr karake grahaN kiyA nahIn. bhagavAnakI antarase mahimA nahIn AyI. aise ogheoghe bhagavAnakI mahimA AyI. binA samajhe hI yah bhagavAn hai, aisA mAn liyA. bhagavAnakA sharIr aisA hai, bhagavAnakI vANI aisI hai, aise sab Upar-Uparase mAn liyA. antarase bhagavAnako nahIn pahachAnA. bhagavAnakA dravya kyA? bhagavAnakA guN kyA? bhagavAnakI paryAy kyA? kuchh nahIn pahachAnA. isaliye samavasaraNamense vApas AyA. bhagavAn kise kahate hain, antaramense vah mahimA nahIn AyI hai. isaliye vApas AyA hai.