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samAdhAna- .. nimitta bane, puruShArtha kare to andar dRuDhatA ho. puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. pratikUl sanyogakA nimitta bane. bAkI puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai. bahutonko pratikUlatA ho to bhI kuchh nahIn hotA hai. parantu svayam kare to hotA hai. pratikUlatA to bAharakA nimitta banatI hai, svayam kare to hotA hai. svayamko puruShArtha uThanA rahatA hai. bhedagnAn kaise ho? andar kaise laganI lagAnI? sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. gnAyakakI pariNati dRuDh karanI, gnAyakatA pragaT karanI apane hAthakI bAt hai. nimitta bane, bAharake pratikUl sanyog nimitta banate hain. use vApas muDanekA ek kAraN banatA hai. parantu karanA svayamko paDatA hai.
mumukShu- bAharase vApas muDe to use dUsarI jagah kahAn rahI?
samAdhAna- AtmAmen jAnekI jagah rahI. lekin jAy to hotA hai na? jAy to hotA hai.
mumukShu- jAneke liye puruShArtha hI chAhiye aur andarakI laganI?
samAdhAna- paruShArtha, andarakI laganI. vichAr karake, main gnAyak hUn, yah merA svarUp nahIn hai. merA svarUp bhinna hai. puruShArtha (karake) pariNatiko badale to hotA hai.
mumukShu- ekadam laganI kaise lage?
samAdhAna- laganI lagAnI apane hAthakI bAt hai. svayamko bAharase dukh lage, yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai, yah mujhe AkulatArUp hai, yah TikanekA sthAn nahIn hai. yah merA ghar nahIn hai. merA svaghar rahanekA nivAsasthAn to AtmAmen hai. aisA andar nishchay ho, aisI pratIti ho, vah pratIti dRuDh ho to andar jAya. utanI dRuDhatA apanemen honI chAhiye, to andar jAya. jabatak nahIn ho tabatak usakI laganI lagAye, usakA abhyAs kare, bArambAr main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak hUn. bAhar shubhabhAv Aye, dev-gur-shAstrakI mahimA Adi, parantu karanekA andar shuddhAtmAmen hai.
mumukShu- jAnanevAleko jAnanA.
samAdhAna- jAnanevAlA hai. usakA mukhya guN jAnanA hai. ananta guNonse bharA hai, parantu mukhya guN to jAnanA hai-gnAyak hai.
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mumukShu- dev-guru-shAstrakI bhaktise nahIn milatA hai?
samAdhAna- bhakti nimitta bane, karanA svayamko paDatA hai. bhaktise kuchh hotA nahIn. vah to bIchamen AtI hai. ashubhabhAvase bachaneko antaramen nahIn ho tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti Aye binA rahatI nahIn. bhakti, svAdhyAy, vichAr, vAnchan, sab bIchamen AtA hai. to bhI svayamko pahachAnanA paDatA hai. AtmAko pahachAnanA. vah sab bIchamen AtA hai.
mumukShu- bahut vAnchan nahIn ho sakatA ho..
samAdhAna- vAnchan nahIn ho sake to prayojanabhUt tattvako jAne to svayamko pahachAn sakatA hai. jyAdA vAnchan kare to hotA hai, aisA bhI nahIn hai. lekin vah sab svayamko vichAr karaneke liye shAstra svAdhyAy bIchamen hotA hai, parantu vah jyAdA hI chAhiye, aisA nahIn hai. prayojanabhUt AtmAko jAne ki main jAnanevAlA hUn aur yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aisA antarase jAne ki yah sab paradravya hai, main AtmA bhinna hUn. merA svabhAv bhinna hai, AkulatA merA svarUp nahIn hai, main gnAyak hUn, aisA prayojanabhUt svayam jAne to jyAdA vAnchan nahIn ho to bhI antaramen kar sakatA hai.
mumukShu- svaparakA bhedagnAn?
samAdhAna- svaparakA bhedagnAna. dravya par dRuShTi. main chaitanyadravya hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. bhedagnAn aur dravya par dRuShTi. dravya par dRuShTi ho use bhedagnAn hotA hai. bhedagnAn ho aur dravya par dRuShTi ho, vah donon sAthamen hI hai.
mumukShu- pahale bhedagnAn kaise karanA? sharIrase, bAharake padArtha pratikUl ho, usase bhedagnAn ho sakatA hai pahale?
samAdhAna- vah to kram kahanemen AtA hai, parantu jab antarase bhedagnAn hotA hai tab sachchA bhedagnAn hotA hai. bAkI vichAr kare ki sharIrase main bhinna hUn, yah bAhya padArthase main bhinna hUn, vah kuchh jAnate nahIn, main jAnanevAlA bhinna hUn, aisA pahale vichAr kare. yah sharIr bhinna, yah jaD kuchh jAnatA nahIn. main to jAnanevAlA bhinna hUn. yah bAhya paradravya mujhase atyant bhinna hain. yah sharIr bhI bhinna hai to bAharakI to kyA bAt karanI? usase bhinna, sharIrase bhinna parantu antaramen jo AkulatA, vikalpa utpanna hote hain, us vikalpase apanA svabhAv bhinna hai. main to nirvikalpa tattva hUn. tab use sachchA bhedagnAn hotA hai.
itanA kare to bhI vah to sthUl huA hai ki paradravyase bhinna aur sharIrase bhinna. andar jo sUkShma bhAv hai, shubhAshubh bhAvonse bhI merA svabhAv bhinna hai. aise pratIt ho, aisI pariNati ho, tab sachchA bhedagnAn hotA hai. main to chaitanyadravya hUn, in sabase main bhinna hUn.
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mumukShu- apane svabhAvase bhI bhinnatA?
samAdhAna- apane svabhAvase bhinnatA nahIn, vibhAvake svabhAvase. apanA svabhAv vah to svayam hI hai. .. vAnchan, vichAr, bhakti, vairAgya Adi sab hotA hai, usake sAth hotA hai. ek chaitanyatattvako pahachAne. dhyey ek-AtmA kaise pahachAnA jAy? shubhabhAvamen sab sAthamen hotA hai. antaramen shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAnA jAy? gnAyak.. gnAyak... gnAyakako jAnanekA andar puruShArtha.
mumukShu- ekadam kyon nahIn shurU hotA hai?
samAdhAna- utanI laganI nahIn hai, utanI ruchi nahIn hai, antaramense utanA vApas nahIn muDA hai. sab sAthamen chAhiye.
mumukShu- aise to aisA lagatA hai ki kuchh achchhA nahIn lagatA.
samAdhAna- achchhA nahIn lagatA, lekin antaramen apanI or muDanekI utanI ruchi jAgRut honI chAhiye na. achchhA nahIn lage, parantu utanA puruShArtha apanI orakA honA chAhiye na. utanA puruShArtha hotA nahIn hai. achchhA nahIn lage, vAstavamen achchhA nahIn lagatA ho to vah antaramen mArga kiye binA rahe nahIn.
mumukShu- apanI or muDanekA mArga prApta ho hI jAtA hai?
samAdhAna- mArga prApta ho hI jAtA hai. vAstavamen andar lage to. kharA puruShArtha andar ho to. laganI laganI chAhiye antaramen. kShaN-kShaNamen usIkI laganI lage. aur kahIn ruche nahIn, kShaN-kShaNamen merA gnAyak.. gnAyak.. mujhe gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? gnAyakadeva. gnAyak divyasvarUp mujhe kaise pahachAnamen Aye? utanI gnAyakakI mahimA laganI chAhiye, gnAyakakI utanI laganI andar laganI chAhiye.
.. andarase svayam vichAr karanA. bAharakI mahimA chhUTe aur andarakI gnAyakakI mahimA (Aye). usakA svabhAv pahachAnanA ki AtmAkA svabhAv koI alaukik hai. usakA svabhAv pahachAnanA. mahimA kaise Aye? gnAyak ek divyamUrti hai. gnAyak mAtra gnAn nahIn hai, parantu gnAyak ananta guNonse bharapUr divya hai. aise mahimA laganI chAhiye. mAtra ek rukhA gnAn jAnanevAlA, jAnanevAlA aisA nahIn hai. divyatAyukta koI padArtha hai.
mumukShu- divyatA kaisI hotI hai? samAdAna- kaisI ho, usakA kyA...? divyatA AshcharyakArak divyatA. divyatAkA artha svayam divyasvarUp hai.
mumukShu- usakA kuchh varNan?
samAdhAna- usakA varNan kyA? usakA artha samajhamen Aye aisA hai. divyatA arthAt divya. devasvarUp AshcharyakArak divyatA. kah nahIn sake, usakA artha vaha. divyatA.
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mumukShu- varNanamen nahIn Aye.
samAdhAna- varNanamen nahIn AtA.
mumukShu- anubhavamen Aye.
samAdhAna- anubhavamen Aye.
mumukShu- kaisA anubhav hogA?
samAdhAna- svayam anubhav kare tab vah samajh sake. bAkI usakA mArga shAstramen AtA hai. laganI lagI nahIn hai, nahIn to prApta hue binA rahe hI nahIn. laganImen nyUnatA hai, puruShArthakI nyUnatA hai, pramAd hai. pramAd hai.
mumukShu- pramAd hI jyAdA hai.
samAdhAna- laganI lagatI nahIn hai, vah pramAd hai. laganIkI nyUnatA hai aur pramAd hai. Aj hI kArya karanA hai, Aj hI karanA hai, aisA andar puruShArtha nahIn hai, pramAd hai.
mumukShu- pramAd to ... hogA, .. to hI use pramAd rahatA hogA na?
samAdhAna- bharosA hogA, lekin use pramAd rahatA hai. utanI lagI nahIn hai, isaliye rahatA hai. deh TikanevAlA hai aisA bharosA apragaT samajhe, bAkI use aisA bhI hotA hai ki yah sharIr hameshA nahIn TikanevAlA hai, lekin andarase use sachchA nirNay nahIn hotA. sthUlatAse samajhe ki yah sharIr paradravya hai, TikegA nahIn, parantu antaramen pramAd karatA hai vah svayam karatA hai. andar sachchI lage to taiyAr hue binA rahe nahIn.
mumukShu- deh kabhI bhI chhUTe to bhI usakI taiyArI andar honI chAhiye.
samAdhAna- taiyArI honI chAhiye, kShaN-kShaNamen taiyArI honI chAhiye.
mumukShu- gnAyak.. gnAyak.. gnAyak, basa.
samAdhAna- gnAyakakA raTan honA chAhiye.
mumukShu- raTan karate-karate andar laganI lag jAtI hogI?
samAdhAna- andar sachchI lagAnevAlA svayam hai. kaise lage? svayamko lagAnI hai. raTan karate nahIn, usakI jarUrat lage to laganI lage to puruShArtha ho. jarUrat lagatI nahIn.
mumukShu- ... lekin nidrAmen kyon nahIn rahatA?
samAdhAna- jisako gnAyakakI ruchi lage to gnAyakakI ruchi to ruchivAleko chhUTatI nahIn. nidrAmen ruchi to gnAyakakI honI chAhiye. nidrAmen puruShArtha manda ho jAtA hai, ruchi to gnAyakakI laganI chAhiye. svapna Aye to bhI main gnAyak, mujhe kaise pragaT ho? aisI bhItaramense gaharI laganI laganI chAhiye. puruShArtha manda ho to bArambAr puruShArtha kare, usamen thake nahIn. bArambAr, bArambAr, usakI mahimA chhUTe nahIn, usakI laganI chhUTe nahIn, puruShArtha
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manda ho to bArambAr puruShArtha kare, to bhItaramen pragaT hue binA rahatA hI nahIn.
bhagavAnake darabAramen jAnA hai to bhagavAnake dvAr par Tahale lagAye to bhagavAnake dvAr khul jAte hain. aise gnAyakake dvAr par gnAyak.. gnAyak.. aise usakI Tahel lagAtA rahe. bhItaramen gnAyakadevakA darshan hue binA rahatA nahIn.
mumukShu- gnAyakakA prachAr karate hain, bIch-bIchamen AsravabhAv A jAte hain, unhen haTAte hain to haTate nahIn hai, hamako pareshAn karate hain.
samAdhAna- bhItaramen AsravabhAv Ave to bAr-bAr puruShArtha kare. usakA jor chalane nahIn deve. AtmAkI orakA puruShArtha kare. AsravakA jor chalane nahIn denA. anAdikA abhyAs hai, bIchamen AtA hai to usakA jor nahIn chalane denA. AtmAkA bArambAr ugra puruShArtha kare to ho sakatA hai. jyAdA A jAy, jyAdA sIkh le, aisA nahIn hai. vichAr kare, mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako jAne to bhItaramen ho sakatA hai. AtmAkA svabhAv aur vibhAvakA svabhAv bhinna karake, gnAyakakA svabhAv hai, pragnAchhainI dvArA usakA bhed karake, main gnAyak hI hUn, yah main nahIn hUn, yah vibhAv hai, merA svabhAv bhinna hai. aisA ugra puruShArtha karake svarUp grahaN kar le. bhItaramen gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT kar le, to ho sakatA hai. mere dravya-guN sab bhinna hain, usakA dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai, vibhAvakA svabhAv bhinna hai. aisA bhedagnAn kare. dravya par dRuShTi kare to ho sakatA hai.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! vikalpake kAlamen puruShArtha aur alagase chalatA hai? yA vikalpa hI puruShArtha hai?
samAdhAna- jab nirvikalpa nahIn hotA ho to vikalpa hote hain. parantu bhItaramen usakI jo bhAvanA hai, us bhAvanAkI ugratA karake aur gnAn apanI or dishA badalakar gnAyakako grahaN karake vikalpa gauN ho jAtA hai. vikalpa chhUTatA nahIn, vikalpa to nirvikalpa dashA jab hove tab chhUTatA hai. parantu vikalpako gauN karake, gnAn apaneko grahaN karatA hai, apanI or jise ruchi lagI, vah gnAn apanI or jAkar gnAyakako grahaN karatA hai.
mumukShu- gnAnane apaneko kabhI dekhA nahIn hai to gnAn kis bal par apaneko bhItar le Aye?
samAdhAna- dekhA nahIn hai to bhI gnAn apane svabhAvako grahaN kar letA hai. svayam hI hai, dUsarA to hai nahIn. gnAyak svayam aur gnAn bhI apanA, sab svayam hI hai. svayam svayamko grahaN kar sakatA hai. dUsarA nahIn hai. dekhA nahIn hai to bhI grahaN kar sakatA hai, svabhAvako pahachAnakara.
mumukShu- shAstramen to aisA AtA hai ki vibhAv dvArA svabhAvakA bhAnA ashakya
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hai. vibhAvake dvArA svabhAvakA bhAnA ashakya hai. vibhAv dvArA svabhAvakA bhAnA ashakya hai to vibhAv dvArA svabhAv kaise pakaDamen Aye?
samAdhAna- gnAnasvabhAv dvArA. gnAnake dvArA gnAnasvabhAvakA grahaN hotA hai, vibhAvake dvArA nahIn hotA hai. gnAn dvArA gnAyak grahaN ho sakatA hai, gnAyak gnAyakase grahaN hotA hai. vibhAv dvArA nahIn. vibhAv sAthamen rahatA hai vah gauN ho jAtA hai. gnAnake dvArA gnAyak grahaN hotA hai. gnAnasvabhAvako grahaN karake, ek gnAyakako grahaN karake dRuDh pratIti karake ki main gnAyak hI hUn. phir mati-shrutakA upayog bAhar jAtA hai, usako svabhAvakI or lAkar usamen lIn karatA hai. vikalpakA bhed ho jAtA hai aur svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.
bhItaramen jAye to shUnya nahIn hai. akelA gnAyak-gnAn mahimAvant hai. usakA gnAn arthAt sUkhA gnAn aise nahIn. gnAn mahimAvant gnAyak hI hai. utanA satya paramArtha hai, utanA kalyAN hai, utanA hI hai ki jitanA yah gnAnasvabhAv hai. gnAnasvabhAv hai arthAt gnAyakako grahaN kara. usamen prIti kar, usamen ruchi kar, usamen santuShTa ho. gnAyak mahimAse bharapUr hai. ek karane yogya hai, jitanA yah gnAn hai. gnAnako grahaN kara. vah param mahimAvant padArtha hai. .. bhItaramen jAy, sab chhUT jAy isaliye shUnya hai, aisA shUnya nahIn hai. mahimAse bharapUr, ananta guNase bharapUr aisA AtmA hai.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- vartamAnase bhI ho sakatA hai. pUrvakA kisIko hotA hai, sabako pUrvakA nahIn ho sakatA hai. vartamAn puruShArthase bhI ho sakatA hai. jisako pragaT huA vah vartamAnase huA. sabako pUrvase nahIn ho sakatA hai. jab hotA hai tab pahale to ho sakatA hai. sab pUrvakA lekar nahIn Ate hain. bhagavAnakI vANI sunatA hai, anAdikAlase pahale kuchh huA hI nahIn, to bhItaramen deshanA labdhi hotI hai, aise pUrvakA lekar nahIn AtA hai. bhagavAnakI aisI vANI sunakar bhItaramen bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai. apaneko pahachAnatA hai vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. sab pUrvase lekar nahIn Ate hain. vartamAn puruShArthase ho sakatA hai.
...usakI prIti kar, usakI ruchi kar, usamen tujhe uttam sukh hogA. shAstramen AtA hai. usamen santuShTa ho.